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Old 05-08-2013, 03:34 PM   #268
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there's likely at least two sides to this, people that are not the alcoholics, but have to deal with them all the time, would like to see the stores closed, because since they cannot control the alcoholics, they can only try to control the environment contributing to it.

And the alcoholic, who would probably rather have it delivered to the door, along with the paper and whatever else they desire.

I'm not big on the trying to control the environment. I'd rather throw the unruly alcoholic in jail and force sobriety and then force rehab, at least once or twice.

People have two parts, the physical and spiritual. How wounded does a person have to become, in either areas, before society should step in? And if people are needy and whining and so self-absorbed they can't perceive reality, is that likely to change when they are off alcohol? Do they care that they are walking wounded? Many don't, even when sober.

If they have no shame and feel they are owed, that may just be the way they are. They don't love anyone, not their kids, no one. If they did, they would at least try to stop. It might take a few days in jail to sober them up enough to care enough to try to stop. But some people really just don't care.
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