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Old 11-10-2004, 02:07 PM   #28
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Thank you for a very informative answer.Thank you for not calling me a theif and understanding that I am just trying to learn. Gourd dancing does exist here in N. Cal. and it is getting more popular every Pow Wow season. I recently spoke to an Otoe-Missourian Elder (Herchel,70's) and he says he was in Oklahoma in the early 50's when gourd was resurrected. Says the beginning members met in his parents basement. Anyways, he's here in N. Cal. and sits as head singer at "Strictly Southern",a drum comprised of all Kiowa singers. Herchel says he follows the Cheyene style and not the Kiowa. He is a much respected Elder out here and often gets angered by some of the "Open" and socieity gourd dancers for not doing gourd in what he says is the proper way. I dance the way he has taught me and the way that I have read about here on the net. I will continue to gourd dance and will do my best to dance it in a way that is traditional,respectful and with honor. Gourd dancing out here is spreading evey year and isn't going to go away. I will continue to try and pass on the teachings I have learned.
Thank you again for your very informative answer...I will dance in this way and will try my best to do so honorable. Thank you again...Wado

Originally Posted by Numunu1971
I enjoyed reading your post.... seeing how its done elsewhere. I live in N. Oklahoma, grew up in S. Oklahoma, and we do it a bit different here. We generally have benches around the arena where we sit, and we pretty much sit where ever we want. (If one side of the arena happens to have shade, we tend to conglomerate). At many powwows, the drum may be at the side of the arena, so we just move around wherever the spirit moves us too. (Drum stalkers tend to look confused at this) Here, we stay seated during the first song until the drum "steps on it". Then we generally wait for the headsman to start dancing, and if there is no headsman, we start dancing simply when we're ready. I know nothing of the four directional corners, but there is a store on Hwy. 177 that we all call four corners. j/k.
The Buffalo dance is done here usually as the final dance at some powwows. And here in Oklahoma, esp. Carnegie, you will here the wolf howls, and I think that is because this is the birthplace of the gourd dance, and many here understand and know history and the ettiquette of gourd dance, as well as the songs. We have some excellent drums here in Oklahoma, and alot of informed people.
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