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Old 08-09-2007, 02:06 AM   #120
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Originally Posted by handgame_native View Post
Can someone explain why were are even discussing a fraction that the gov. assigns in relation to our identity and possibly even a factor on determining who our children marry?
One obvious answer is that some individuals are concerned that their allocation of subsidies will decrease if we deviate from the demeaning "quantum standard." In some cases, that's all they have -- short-sighted and closeted -- and they fear being asked to grow and be accountable. They have taken the metaphorical cheese and accept the branding of their masters: even to the point of making it a factor in who their children wed. SAD. These fools have tied blood quantum to cultural identity. That's BAD.

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Someone even mentioned earlier a possible scenario.....a person who's quantum is 4/4th's marrying another person who is 4/4th's of another tribe.....and their descendants continuing to marry other 4/4th Natives from other tribes.....can someone tell me what their identity is? Depending on their ancestors tribe and eligibility would determine whether they would even meet the standards for registration of any of the tribes.
Precisely the point. Even in a pureblood scenario, blood doesn't work as a determinative factor for who we are. And, of course, we all KNOW the statistically minimal number of pureblood weddings... Negligable. Reality is that we are dealing with diminishing fractions across the board. Logic demands we come up with a cultural definition, before those who would have us tied to a cross of quantum see us crucified upon it.

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Just a suggestion, but maybe instead of passing on the gov. blood quantum system to the next generation, teach them about what marriage means to your community and what it meant to your ancestors, (for instance ~ respect for your in-laws and the behaviors that go along with it).
Ah yes! Logic. I concur. Try getting threatened -- and hypocritical -- anthropological psuedo-traditionalists to think that way, however. Quantum demeans us, like dogs.

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Let white people worry about their numbers, and we'll worry about retaining our Native values and fighting acculturation.
Step one would be to cease allowing them the dominant position by continuing to "blame" them for our foibles. If a Native is an alcoholic, for example, that's because he IS an alcoholic. It is NOT because the government made him one.

When Natives become accountable, eradicate the "poor me" rhetoric, and cease to define themselves using non-renewable resources, we'll get somewhere.

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