Thread: Societies
View Single Post
Old 08-28-2007, 02:19 AM   #47
powwowbum49
Arena Director
 
powwowbum49's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
powwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond repute
powwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond reputepowwowbum49 has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: midwest, USA
Posts: 843
Credits: 0.00
Savings: 0.00
Josiah

Keep in mind that not all the groups that are called societies are true clans/societies like Kiowa gourd clan. For most of the groups it is not a true ceremonial. As gourd dancing became mainstreamed into Oklahoma powwows group sprang up that did not view the dance the same as Kiowa gourd clan. There are many groups around the country and even in Oklahoma that are more like powwow club than societies. I think these groups could have chosen better terms than clan or society to have in their names since that implies a ceremonial to me, but hey they never ask my opinion. They are made up of people that enjoy gourd dancing and want to promote it. Many of the groups are tax exempt organizations that provide aid to others. White star for example works every year to collect funds that it donates to a Kiowa education fund that provides college scholarships for Kiowa kids that are attending or planning to attend University.

Are all these groups sanctioned by the Kiowa... I very seriously doubt it. Are they accepted and welcomed by the Kiowa...by some Kiowa yes and others no. I know White star has been ask to Co Host dances in Oklahoma with other Kiowa groups, but to my knowledge it is not a "sanctioned" group.

Also keep in mind that other tribes claim to be originators of the dance and have promoted it's spreading as well. I doubt these groups/clan/societies ask the Kiowa if it is ok to give the dance to others.

just some food for thought
__________________
PB49

"Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up." Pablo Picasso

"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift...that is why is it called the Present." Master Oogway - KungFu Panda


My comments are based on what I have been taught and my experiences over the years I have been around the circle. They should in no way be taken as gospel truths and are merely my opinions or attempts at passing on what I have learned while still learning more.
powwowbum49 is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook