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Old 01-19-2007, 06:30 PM   #61
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now BB you should know that real Indians only Bingo, that bowling stuff although seemingly harmless is a danger to our race, do you want to turn white? do you? well do you?
Yeah, but the one bingo parlor anywhere near where I live turned into some kinda bar with boxing on Saturday nights.... Bowling is about all there is left out here to do after 7pm. LOL! And you see natives there all the time! And I'm better at darts but darts are in bars and you can't take the kids... sniff. Hell there ain't even a shuffleboard table out this way!
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Old 01-19-2007, 06:41 PM   #62
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I myself don't care for the obnoxious ones, but eventually you end up meeting one or two cool guys who are'nt native and they dance well, they don't compete, they are married to a native or friends of a native family who brought them in.. they are respectful and just having a good time. You end up likeing them... so now what you gonna do? Lump them in with the bizarre, the strange, the obnoxious and the disillusioned?

You know the older folks got it right, if they don't say something to someone personally to their face about their actions and what they are doing at a powwow, then ostracization is put into practice. They are'nt acknowledged, they are'nt talked to, they are'tn given the time of day. Cold shoulder in other words. People pick up on it pretty quick ...

And I seriously think some of the scads of people who start becomming the obnoxious indian types that we KNOW are'nt anything but white frauds, is the result of a new psychosis. A type of mental illness. I REALLY wish I had the education under my belt to further examine this with people... the discertation alone could make me a wealthy indian woman!
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hey I am smart, and if the Indians were not loving on the whites from time to time I might not be here. and that would be a shame cause i am one cool half breed. but i am not blind i do know there is a movement to infaltraite the red race with bowling and golf and that damned solitare game. evil [email protected]
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So what's wrong with Skins that bowl??

... hey wait.. take the skin heads bowling.. take them bowling! I love that song!

But no seriously... is there somethign wrong with indians bowling? You gotta let me know now because we go neon bowling at least twice a month and I need to know is this seriously a non indian thing that I should stay away from????
Those evil sadistic Yahoo! games that you download, play for an hour (for free mind you!).... then BAM they charge yer azz. It's a conspiracy.... I swear..... It's like crack. They get you hooked then make you come back and PAY for more. Stay away from those. They are the spawn of satan.



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.... Bowling is about all there is left out here to do after 7pm. LOL!
now the thread 'guess what' tells me that is not entirely true
i hope your family sees it as a good thing
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YOUR DOING IT ALL WRONG! YOU CAN NOW GO BACK TO BOWLING, DART LEAGUE, AND SOFTBALL, AND PLEASE LEAVE THE POWOWS TO US NDNS!.
Softball's a white thang? Does that mean I have to quit my team? How're they gonna catch the ball if I'm not there with my sword?

Isn't softball/baseball one of those ancient Aztec game, anyway, where they used to throw a human head around? (Hey, on second thought, send them white folks out here on the field, heh heh heh)
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Hey I just got an idea for a new bowling game, who's in? lol
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now the thread 'guess what' tells me that is not entirely true
i hope your family sees it as a good thing


Uh, but I cannot include the entire family in on those kinda activities you know....ROFLMAO!
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Gives a whole new meaning to picking your nose....
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Dudes this sure got a lot of responses. The title of the thread prolly had a lot to do with it. When you open it up and start reading it it really interesting. There is a lot of polarization on the arguments. Its kind of like the debate on capital punishment. You are either really for or against it. I am not sure where I am on the spectrum. I understand all of the arguments though. If we share to much of our culture with non-ndns, they will begin to take shortcuts and *******ize the process. If we don't share some of our beliefs with them then they will not see how much value we place on our culture and teachings. Its a double edged sword. Many of our Elders from all over ndn country have lamented on this issue. It is more of a question of how much do we let them in before things begin to change and lose there significance. Its like the other thread where do these yahoos get this. People do what has been shown to them and they may not get the reasons why we do what we do. Pretty soon it becomes accepted practice. Nobody really understands anymore; things which used occur for very specific reasons no longer have teachings attached to them. That is when we begin to break down in our culture. I am by no means an expert on cultural teachings but that is what I understand.
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i was kinda talking about the outcome
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If we don't share some of our beliefs with them then they will not see how much value we place on our culture and teachings. Its a double edged sword. Many of our Elders from all over ndn country have lamented on this issue. It is more of a question of how much do we let them in before things begin to change and lose there significance. Its like the other thread where do these yahoos get this. People do what has been shown to them and they may not get the reasons why we do what we do. Pretty soon it becomes accepted practice. Nobody really understands anymore; things which used occur for very specific reasons no longer have teachings attached to them. That is when we begin to break down in our culture. I am by no means an expert on cultural teachings but that is what I understand.
You make some really interesting points. I know people who have been guilty of misusing Indian culture out of ignorance - they don't know they're misusing because they don't know the reasons behind what they're doing. I'm certain I've done it myself. It's a question of do you trust people in general enough to disclose more so they won't destroy the culture in ignorance? Generally, I'd say no, but in particular instances, when you recognize somebody means well but just doesn't have enough knowledge, maybe it's better to risk a little more disclosure. Very tough call.
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Dudes this sure got a lot of responses. The title of the thread prolly had a lot to do with it. When you open it up and start reading it it really interesting. There is a lot of polarization on the arguments. Its kind of like the debate on capital punishment. You are either really for or against it. I am not sure where I am on the spectrum. I understand all of the arguments though. If we share to much of our culture with non-ndns, they will begin to take shortcuts and *******ize the process. If we don't share some of our beliefs with them then they will not see how much value we place on our culture and teachings. Its a double edged sword. Many of our Elders from all over ndn country have lamented on this issue. It is more of a question of how much do we let them in before things begin to change and lose there significance. Its like the other thread where do these yahoos get this. People do what has been shown to them and they may not get the reasons why we do what we do. Pretty soon it becomes accepted practice. Nobody really understands anymore; things which used occur for very specific reasons no longer have teachings attached to them. That is when we begin to break down in our culture. I am by no means an expert on cultural teachings but that is what I understand.
Dang dude, something is wrong...you're actually making sense! j/k bad. What you say makes alot of sense. It also brought another question to mind.

Is ojibwaycommodbod talking about ALL white people, white people married to ndns, or just those weird white people who do weird things like they are talking about in the 'yahoos' thread. Methinks those people in the 'yahoo' thread get overspirchalized, see psychodelicized visions and then act out what they saw!
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Excuse me...

Being white, I was wondering, do I have to give up bow hunting and take up something else instead?

Don't want to offend you know :-)
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I Can't Believe I Read This Whole Thread!!



I found myself smiling....

When it all boils down... we are ALL humans.

Just try being yourselves and be true to you families and communites...

Remember where you came from.
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I found myself smiling....

When it all boils down... we are ALL humans.

Just try being yourselves and be true to you families and communites...

Remember where you came from.

I agree. Frubals on your head!
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Originally Posted by FluteMaker View Post
i was kinda talking about the outcome

OH the second sentance yes, I knew that and yes everyone is excited about it thanks!!

but the first sentance LOL.. that's what I was responding to. I can't include the whole family on those "other" after 7PM activities ... that would be not just wrong, but illegal and gross LOL!!

besides that, they are a bowling nuts. And I'd rather play darts and sing Karaoke myself.
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