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Old 05-05-2009, 01:56 PM   #161
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When i was a contestant in 1996 and 1997, there was an award for most ticket sales. As for getting my 10%, i received a small color tv for my efforts. It came in handy when I went to school.

Anyhow.....again, bigger pageants tend to impose an entry fee. I suppose that's why the MIW committee decided for contestants to sell a minimum amount of raffle tickets instead. I suppose the MIW should charge the entry fee instead of making 'em sell raffle tickets. You think??
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No....Royce placed 4th and there were 4 finalists...I don't remember which number he was now. The judges of the special picked the 4 finalists and then they went to the text vote to determine what order they placed. I knew Royce wouldn't get any higher than 4th when I saw they were doing the on-line and text voting. and she's saying that the ring girl didn't display Royce's sign as much as the other girls did for their dancers (who all placed higher). I don't think Royce's sign promotion had anything to do with his placing last, I think it was just the fact that it was a text vote. You might as well do audience repsponse (which I also don't think is fair)....it ends up being the same thing, in my opinion.

I carried Quannah's sign and he was number 4. I think Royce was number 2. I will say that those dancers were pretty worn out, even getting them to walk around after was pushing it cuz they were tired. I can't remember which one it was but shaking his hand it was just trembling, I am not sure they could have even held up their own signs.

Judging, like you said earlier isn't always fair. I don't know what the answer is. But that is a standard complaint, tho. So maybe in being so unfair there is a fairness somehow?? and the popularity contest will always be an issue sadly enough....
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You would think that a contestant for MIW, is already comfortable being in public. But I know some of the contestants who ran because they are beautiful or family pushed them into it, and they are not really friendly or have good "people" skills. You are probably right, their attitude and behavior probably do come out in the competition. But you have to remember, during the time they are actually competing, of course they are going to be on their best behavior. Kinda like when you first start dating someone.....

I noticed that too...you can kind of see it on some of the ladies' faces when they are down there. Like they are in it to "please" someone else. At least that is what I thought I saw. Or some of them seemed to have an uncomfortable smile during the dancing inparticular?
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My favorite part of the powwow was when Rueben announced that a car had to be moved. License # OMG LOL, please move your car. Ayyee.

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My favorite part of the powwow was when Rueben announced that a car had to be moved. License # OMG LOL, please move your car. Ayyee.

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Rueben was great!

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My favorite part of the powwow was when Rueben announced that a car had to be moved. License # OMG LOL, please move your car. Ayyee.

The rest of this thread is getting old.
Old like all of us....
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age group splits
dancer discounts (more than a few bucks please)
host hotel that gives good discounts lol
do presentations of local culture, like the corn dances or something rather than gourd dance and bands. that gourd dancing alone can cause controversy with how they do it....yikes
dont let non natives judge the contests ( i mean get real....what do they really know? once i had one of the "judges" ask my daughter if they are to fill in all the blanks and that she put a dancer down just cause he had beautiful moccasins....geez....we come a long way to dance and get judged on our dancing ability...."a fair pow wow" so it says....dont let non natives judge)
and i have a question....if we are going to be that nosy in the first place... why not ask GON to post a budget and an expenditure list for the people to see exactly how much money is raised, spent, etc.....all major companies do this and since it is such an issue, why not get the local media involved, and lets see where the money goes. If you want an answer, go with the media and go straight to the source....Thats about as up front as you can get...show your cards, in other words and once and for all, silence the accusations or theories of fraud, millionaire status, etc.
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Pow Wows. com Pow Wow??

Boy, this sure ended up to be a convoluted thread, this thing is all over that map.

Does Pow Wows.com have their own Pow Wow? If not, maybe they should have, they sure know alot about Pow Wows, and they have all the experts.

Maybe they should have their own Pageant also. Is there a Miss Indian Universe, or Miss Indian Galaxy? An MIU, or a MIG, we probably need one.

Maybe have a big contest/pageant Pow Wow at one of the big casinos with a big arena. Of course this would all be free.
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Boy, this sure ended up to be a convoluted thread, this thing is all over that map.

Does Pow Wows.com have their own Pow Wow? If not, maybe they should have, they sure know alot about Pow Wows, and they have all the experts.

Maybe they should have their own Pageant also. Is there a Miss Indian Universe, or Miss Indian Galaxy? An MIU, or a MIG, we probably need one.

Maybe have a big contest/pageant Pow Wow at one of the big casinos with a big arena. Of course this would all be free.



It will never fly....too many chiefs and not enough ndns....
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some people are soo hung up on the term 'raffle ticket', so change the name. think of it as a litmus test *L*, a community input indicator, a can this chick accomplish something guage, haha i could go on but i should stop.

i present the idea of actually presenting a picture here and a small bio. the only time i get to see the MIWs is when they in the circle and its binocular time. if we can.. lets actually webcast the thing. interest will skyrocket and may actually get good ratings. i actually dont know bout that part.

its a legit pagent. i know the navajo tribe was well represented this yr and maybe every year.

can we do an online vote anyways even if they dont approve it?
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An' then there was this time that Paul decided that me 'n soopashinob should be co-princesses... but we couldn't find an Odawa to make up the third

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Well, you already got your Princess, just change the name to Miss Indian Universe, or Miss Indian Galaxy, and then get started on the real PowWow and formal pageant. Since everything would be free, you might think about hiring some top entertainment. With all the donated talent for the organizing and managing, there should be plenty of junya left over to get some top entertainers. I can picture some arena near the coast, or on a lake, with valet parking and the whole thing. I was in this arena on the Choctaw Nation, it had big screens on either end, quite the thing, but no beach or lake.
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Miss Indian America

Yes, let's a have a contest with some of the rules being that the contestants know their own language, maybe not be fluent but knowing, demonstrate something particular to their nation, not "Amazing Grace" in sign language please, be able to dance in both tribal and contemporary styles.
Tribal dress only, no swimsuits to degrade our contestants.
The contestants must originate from a FEDERALLY recognized nation and be able to prove it.
Nothing from "Billy Jack".
Finally, anyone out there willing to be Miss I-Da-Ho? That's a joke.
I thought that it was funny.

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