Register Groups Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Forum Home - Go Back > Pow Wow Arena > Pow Wow Talk Princesses with "soiled" banners? Princesses with "soiled" banners?

Reply LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-13-2004, 12:43 PM   #41
Tiny Tot Dancer
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
shookshooklaquay has a spectacular aura about
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: South Park
Posts: 74
Credits: 0.00
Savings: 0.00
well said

Quote:
Originally Posted by AhDay_EveryDay
First of all, like any princess I'll introduce myself *L*
I'm Michelle Flying Man, Rocky Boy Powwow's Princess- Former Mz. Denver March Powwow And Heart Of The Nations Powwow Princess.
I'm Still A Huge Believer In The Idea That You Have To BE The Change You Want To See In The World. Hence My Decision To Go For And Continue Pursuing Titles, To Be A Good Role Model For My Sisters And Really Any Native Female Wanting To Be Known And Recognized In A Good Way.

But I'll Be Real, There Is A Certain Princess I Met This Year Personally That I Absolutely Had No Respect For, Though She Held A Rather Important Title. Was She Rugged? No. Did She Go Out And Party After Powwows? No. Something Worse In My Eyes... At One Of The Largest Powwows I Attend, I Saw Her Try To Ignore A Sweet Elderly Lady That Was Trying To Talk To Her. The Lady Spoke Very Softly, And Was A Little Hard To Understand With So Many People Around, But This Princess Simply Shook Her Hand, Turned Around And Pretended Not To Hear Her After That. I Shook The Lady's Hand Too And Leaned In Close So I Could Chat With Her For A Second... Already Thoroughly Disgusted With That Girl. Only To See Later On, During Grand Entry Lineup Some Small Girls Come Up To Where The Royalty Was Standing And Try To Say Hi To Her. She Disregarded Them In The Same Way. That Was It, And Right To Her Face I Tapped Her Shoulder And Said "She Asked You A Question". Mz. Thang Gave A Snappish Answer Then Disregarded Me.
Yes, In My Experiance I Have Seen The Most 2 Faced Horrid Girls Ever. I Have Also Sadly Seen Some Of Them Wearing Innapropriate Things For A Role Model Of Native America, From Clothes To Hickies. But Even In More Outright Problems That We All See, To Underlying Things Like I Saw In "Mz. Thang"... There Are Also Many Titles, Represented By The Most Extrordinary Young Women You Could Ever Hope To Meet. The Difference In These Girls Is The Values They Are Raised With. Jealousy Is Everywhere, But You're An Easy Target When You're Singled Out With A Banner And Crown. The Difference Is In How Deep Those Values Run That Separates The Role Models From The Ones You Eventually Find Out About Anyway.
As For Girls Like Mz. Thang... I Just Pray SHE Doesn't Become An Ignored, Overlooked Elder For The Things She Does These Days.
Well Said!!!
shookshooklaquay is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 07-18-2004, 04:40 PM   #42
Senior Dancer
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
sltate has a reputation beyond repute
sltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond reputesltate has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: apache,ok
Posts: 631
Credits: 101.00
Savings: 0.00
There have been some very excellent comments on this subject and I, for one, have been enlightened to the viewpoints of our people on the behavior of their tribal, organizational, and pow wow representatives.
One thing that is probably the only thing that was not addressed was the fact that our princesses will have boyfriends during their reign. The reason I brought this subject up was because I had seen a few titled ladies on ndnsports. com talking about partying, snagging, etc. I even saw one princess sitting in the bleachers with her boyfriend and his hands were all over her. During the pow wow season, I have seen some of the ladies mentioned out all night at the casinos(yes, I was gamblingLOL), making out with their boyfriends at the pow wow, and just being "loud and out of hand".
Now, where is the line drawn on their behavior? Do we overlook these things because they are young and doing what young people like to do? Or do we say, when you run for a title and win it, that title is your life...you obligated yourself to that title therefore putting your own interests aside until that title has been represented for the required time?
sltate is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 07-18-2004, 11:34 PM   #43
The Rook
 
wicked_j9's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
wicked_j9 is on a distinguished road
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 70
Credits: 10.00
Savings: 0.00
Princess's who are bad reps

Is a Allisia Ewack a princess?...I thought I saw her being princess at the Red Lake pow-wow...All i know the girl took a place in teen fancy suday night end later was thrown in the Red Lake jail.......ooohhhh
wicked_j9 is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 07-19-2004, 11:16 AM   #44
Junior Dancer
 
JingleJammer's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
JingleJammer will become famous soon enough
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: powwow here, powwow there
Posts: 156
Credits: 270.21
Savings: 0.00
the boyfriend issue

Quote:
Originally Posted by sltate
There have been some very excellent comments on this subject and I, for one, have been enlightened to the viewpoints of our people on the behavior of their tribal, organizational, and pow wow representatives.
One thing that is probably the only thing that was not addressed was the fact that our princesses will have boyfriends during their reign. The reason I brought this subject up was because I had seen a few titled ladies on ndnsports. com talking about partying, snagging, etc. I even saw one princess sitting in the bleachers with her boyfriend and his hands were all over her. During the pow wow season, I have seen some of the ladies mentioned out all night at the casinos(yes, I was gamblingLOL), making out with their boyfriends at the pow wow, and just being "loud and out of hand".
Now, where is the line drawn on their behavior? Do we overlook these things because they are young and doing what young people like to do? Or do we say, when you run for a title and win it, that title is your life...you obligated yourself to that title therefore putting your own interests aside until that title has been represented for the required time?
This one can be tricky. I totally understand your disgust with a princess' actions concerning boyfriends/males (the snagging and partying). I still stand behind that blame can't solely be put on the princess herself, but also her family and the committee. Most times a chaperone must accompany a princess wherever she may go, and if that person is her mother/auntie/grandmother/father and they allow for the boyfriend to go along as well, then that is an issue to take up with family and committee if they behave inappropriately. Another thing to consider is if the princess has had this boyfriend before she acquired the title, and if he understands and respects this young woman, then they both should be to accept that for at least one year, their relationship will be different. Sometimes the princess comes into the title already attached, and is able to keep her man behind the scenes for the year. Other times if she can see that they aren't able to help themselves in public, it is best to leave him at home, or refrain from PDAs. I see the concern about some princesses partying and snagging without couth. If a princess is just snagging and hooking up with different people, that issue should be taken up with the committee and the princess. there are different levels to this issue, some I have pointed out.
JingleJammer is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 02-02-2005, 12:34 PM   #45
Pow Wow Visitor
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
kogeek is an unknown quantity at this point
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: on the oklahoma powwow trail
Posts: 6
Credits: 0.00
Savings: 0.00
keeping it real

I being in the powwow circut for some time, the is an underlined goal for many of the girls from about age eight to twenty and that is to be a princess and if their reasons for wanting to be royalty are good ones are not for me to decide. But being the position of being a princess as i know from experience is not an easy thing to do and something not to be taken lightly. My family told me before i accepted my last title that if i wanted to represent something other than just myself i must conduct myself as i was doing so at all times. I think many times people underestimate the work and time put into carrying a title for an entire year. Also like other have said there are girls who have what some would consider small titles who do excellent jobs representing, and there are those who have large titles that treat it like their just anyone of those other girls who just walk around the powwows waiting for the 49.
__________________
Kogee K
kogeek is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 02-02-2005, 10:21 PM   #46
is waiting ....
 
chazziff's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
chazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond repute
chazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 8,103
Credits: 374.00
Savings: 1.00
around these parts the princesses are "picked" mostly by ticket sales - which i agree are hard to sell (some people are just RUDE when declining your request) and dancing ability (usually no speeches). i have helped a couple of my nieces in this regard and they have "won" the titles they have vied for - got one Miss Weaseltail (goin way back in time there) one Miss Poundmaker Pow Wow(this one too), and the current Miss Sakicawasihk (Gold Eagle Casino). my hubby's niece is the current war pony society (not sure of the exact title sorry) and she went through an interview process with this one. she was the sac n fox princess a couple of years ago. her mother and family is setting a good example for her to follow - theres a couple of comanche princesses there too

i've seen up in these parts where the MC has asked the princesses in grand entry to say a few words to the crowd and they have just about turned themselves inside out in embarassment. i just cringe. i agree that they are representing the community or organization who have selected them as their princess. but geez showin up knocked up? dishevelled? gaw where are their parents? my sisters were always there to make sure they looked presentable and that they stayed out of "trouble" - probably have bout a million bucks for everytime i heard "i hate you" for not allowing them to go walk around, etc.

i also agree that they are getting younger and younger - i've seen a baby who couldn't even walk run for tiny tot princess. i agree that it does need to change - a young woman who is in her late teens early twenties would understand the importance of what they are undertaking.
__________________
Watch your broken dreams...
Dance in and out of the beams of a neon moon
chazziff is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 02-02-2005, 10:27 PM   #47
is waiting ....
 
chazziff's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
chazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond repute
chazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond reputechazziff has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 8,103
Credits: 374.00
Savings: 1.00
Quote:
Originally Posted by wicked_j9
Is a Allisia Ewack a princess?...I thought I saw her being princess at the Red Lake pow-wow...All i know the girl took a place in teen fancy suday night end later was thrown in the Red Lake jail.......ooohhhh
wasnt she the 2003 - 2004 FSIN princess? pretty sure she gave up her crown this past pow wow over to saskatoon. i'm not sure but i think this one (FSIN) is picked by dancing ability only - they get all the teens girls out there dance a couple of songs and they get judged...but i could be mistaken...
__________________
Watch your broken dreams...
Dance in and out of the beams of a neon moon
chazziff is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 02-03-2005, 09:41 AM   #48
THE ULTIMATE MULTITASKER
 
oOoSouthernStyozoOo's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
oOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond reputeoOoSouthernStyozoOo has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: The Southwest-928-
Posts: 354
Credits: 320.00
Savings: 0.00
One of our Tribal Embassador (sp) was pregnant when she gave up her title, you could see her tummy, but you would think that its the dress, because of the way apache dresses are made. But she represented our WHOLE rez, not just the community of a small town, and i seen her a few times at dances or whatever, and it wasn't a pretty site.
__________________
'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,
SOUTHERN STYOZ
'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,
oOoSouthernStyozoOo is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 02-03-2005, 11:21 AM   #49
southern cloth-buckskin
 
lil_comanche_chick's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
lil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: a-patch, oklahoma
Posts: 69
Credits: 0.00
Savings: 0.00
Unhappy Princess troubles!

I know a year before I got Jr. Miss Sac&Fox, the Sr. Princess came up pregnent,so they had to pass the crown to the Jr. Miss at the time.
__________________
~*Comanche Nation Princess*~
~*2007*~
lil_comanche_chick is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 02-03-2005, 11:35 AM   #50
WillaDaKilla
 
woggs's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
woggs is a splendid one to beholdwoggs is a splendid one to beholdwoggs is a splendid one to behold
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ft. Hall, Idaho
Posts: 317
Blog Entries: 5
Credits: 0.00
Savings: 0.00
I know what youre all talkin about..but it's just the esteem and the honor we expect of our princesses or queens..some tribes are really picky..where others just pick a person from a big family..or a person who dances good..ect..Maybe we meed to expect more..i dunno?? What ya think??
__________________
Nuwa-nu!!..Look at the Yummy Yaha's!!mmmm..mmm Real injun food!!
Agai-Dika from the great state of potatoes (Lemhi Shoshone-Bannock). So Don't panic, I'm Bannock. P.S. heres my quote: uncle Gary Abrahamson "Don't sweat the petty things, Pet the sweat things!"
:
eyelashes: eyelashes:
eyelashes
woggs is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 02-03-2005, 11:51 AM   #51
southern cloth-buckskin
 
lil_comanche_chick's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
lil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: a-patch, oklahoma
Posts: 69
Credits: 0.00
Savings: 0.00
Quote:
Originally Posted by woggs
I know what youre all talkin about..but it's just the esteem and the honor we expect of our princesses or queens..some tribes are really picky..where others just pick a person from a big family..or a person who dances good..ect..Maybe we meed to expect more..i dunno?? What ya think??

Well I guess some girls doin thik its such a big deal.
__________________
~*Comanche Nation Princess*~
~*2007*~
lil_comanche_chick is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 02-03-2005, 01:53 PM   #52
BOULDERDASH!
 
Coyot_In_The_House's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
Coyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond repute
Coyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Please Don't Interrupt Me While I'm Ignoring You!
Posts: 4,134
Credits: 396.55
Savings: 1.00
B Sure And Vote For.....

COYOT as the Powwows.com Princess......
__________________
"She also has a very soft skin. The only trouble with snake women is they copulate with horses, which makes them strange to me. She say's she doesn't. That's why I call her "Doesn't Like Horses". But, of course, she's lying."
Coyot_In_The_House is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 02-03-2005, 02:09 PM   #53
The Original OP CREW
 
AlmostThere's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
AlmostThere is a name known to all
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: AZ
Posts: 968
Credits: 0.00
Savings: 0.00
__________________
blah blah blah....
AlmostThere is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 04-14-2005, 11:27 AM   #54
southern cloth-buckskin
 
lil_comanche_chick's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
lil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond reputelil_comanche_chick has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: a-patch, oklahoma
Posts: 69
Credits: 0.00
Savings: 0.00
Quote:
Originally Posted by bl@ckfoothoney
who gives a chit about princesses i sure as hell dont most princesses r dogs all girls wanna do is run for princess jus to try an b known there nothing but tramps all they do is party have hickies smoke weed an sleep around im talkin about the princesses i know not all so all u princesses out there dont have a mojor cow over this

That is soooooo not true!!!! When I got my recent title I did it cause i wanted to make my family proud of me. Not to be popular! Besides its not like its going to make me miss thang either.
__________________
~*Comanche Nation Princess*~
~*2007*~

Last edited by lil_comanche_chick; 04-18-2005 at 11:39 AM.. Reason: miss spelling
lil_comanche_chick is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 04-14-2005, 01:04 PM   #55
>Ayez<
 
Sioux_chick's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
Sioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond reputeSioux_chick has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: in tha BOONIEZ!!!
Posts: 23
Credits: 0.00
Savings: 0.00
Quote:
Originally Posted by bl@ckfoothoney
who gives a chit about princesses i sure as hell dont most princesses r dogs all girls wanna do is run for princess jus to try an b known there nothing but tramps all they do is party have hickies smoke weed an sleep around im talkin about the princesses i know not all so all u princesses out there dont have a mojor cow over this

[FONT=Lucida Sans Unicode]Whoa^^^^^^ Yeah I know a few girls who were like that^^^*shakes head* [/FONT]
__________________
~*Sioux_chick*~
Sioux_chick is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 04-15-2005, 02:52 AM   #56
PowWows.com Addicts
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
badmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond repute
badmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond reputebadmaninc has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Saanich Tribes, B.C.
Posts: 3,187
Credits: 0.00
Savings: 1.00
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyot_In_The_House
COYOT as the Powwows.com Princess......
Dude, that one made me laugh out real loud.
badmaninc is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 04-15-2005, 12:16 PM   #57
PauWau Coordinator
 
WhoMe's Avatar
 
Items Devil
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
WhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond repute
WhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond reputeWhoMe has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Land of 370 Broken Treaties
Posts: 7,150
Credits: 11,589.70
Savings: 0.00
Should ticket sales even be a criteria to be a princess?

Since when should "ticket sales skills" have equal weight as, public speaking and traditional talent?

In other words, what if a candidate can't speak in public, does not have knowledge of her cultural ways . . . but is one heck of a ticket seller?

__

I see ticket selling by a princess candidate as an easy way to make money for the powwow committee.

Any comment?

__

Oh and Coyot_,

You have my vote!
__________________
Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.
WhoMe is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 04-15-2005, 01:52 PM   #58
BOULDERDASH!
 
Coyot_In_The_House's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
Coyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond repute
Coyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond reputeCoyot_In_The_House has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Please Don't Interrupt Me While I'm Ignoring You!
Posts: 4,134
Credits: 396.55
Savings: 1.00
Talking



SEE I HAVE THE PATENT WAVE DOWN.........
__________________
"She also has a very soft skin. The only trouble with snake women is they copulate with horses, which makes them strange to me. She say's she doesn't. That's why I call her "Doesn't Like Horses". But, of course, she's lying."
Coyot_In_The_House is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 04-15-2005, 05:06 PM   #59
Happy Beading Woman
 
ac_miss's Avatar
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
ac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond repute
ac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond reputeac_miss has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,915
Blog Entries: 3
Credits: 12,654.90
Savings: 1.00
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoMe
Should ticket sales even be a criteria to be a princess?

Since when should "ticket sales skills" have equal weight as, public speaking and traditional talent?

In other words, what if a candidate can't speak in public, does not have knowledge of her cultural ways . . . but is one heck of a ticket seller?

__

I see ticket selling by a princess candidate as an easy way to make money for the powwow committee.

Any comment?
In my tribe, in order for a candidate to win the title of Junior Tribal Princess, she must raise the most $$$ to win. For these girls it would seem the only way because the selection criteria hasn't change since its beginning. Personally, I oppose the idea of a Jr. Tribal Princess or Tribal princess candidate to raise money for the committee, but some of these monies go back to the community for much needed health care or other programs (IHS sponsors the contest).

I think some prestige should go into the selection process instead of just raising money especially where the title of Junior Tribal Princess/ Tribal Princess is concerned.

As for other princess committees having a requirement to sell raffle tickets, well, they are only going by example of the Miss Indian World committee.
__________________
Bead All You Can Bead
ac_miss is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Old 06-21-2005, 09:00 AM   #60
Pow Wow Visitor
 
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
waf2004 is an unknown quantity at this point
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 14
Credits: 0.00
Savings: 0.00
I'm a little late to this dance, but I have to add my 2 cents. ITA about the raffle ticket thing. I never understood just what that had to do with being a princess, unless of course, your running for the title of Saleswoman of the Year. I also thought it was tasteless if the only criteria for the princess is the ability to sell tickets.

Why can't the powwow committee members sell their own tickets? It's kind of like saying "all right, if you girls want to be our princess, you better sell the hell out of these tickets". Of course, you do get girls to be your ticket selling minions out of the whole deal, but whatever.

Quote:
Originally Posted By: bl@ckfoothoney
who gives a chit about princesses i sure as hell dont most princesses r dogs all girls wanna do is run for princess jus to try an b known there nothing but tramps all they do is party have hickies smoke weed an sleep around im talkin about the princesses i know not all so all u princesses out there dont have a mojor cow over this
bl@ckfoothoney, your post cracked me up. Fortunately I haven't really run into any princesses like that, I do see some princesses out at the 49, but they weren't making a specticle of themselves, however it irked me just the same.
waf2004 is offline   Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

    

Join the online community forum celebrating Native American Culture, Pow Wows, tribes, music, art, and history.

Join PowWows.com Today!

Your Guide to Native American Pow Wows Since 1996

Register For Free

Enjoy the benefits of being a member of PowWows.com!

Join our Native American online community focused on Pow Wow singing, dancing, crafts, Native American music, Native American videos, and more.

Add your Pow Wow to our Calendar

Share your photos and videos

Play games, enter contests, and much more!






New Threads

Pow Wow Calendar Search

 
Month: Year:

Location:

Videos

Featured Articles

Dance Styles

Crafts

Gallery