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Tribes that don't powwow

I have met some pure traditionalists in my day that refuse to powwow because of how important they feel in supporting their own cultural ways. I think this is great. Because of their stance, I feel their tribal ceremonies will continue into the next generation.

Today I had the pleasure of of watching the Me_Wuk of California perform some of their traditional "Big Time Dances." I had never seen them before and the announcer said that they don't powwow.

Are there other tribes that you know of that don't powwow but choose to support their traditional ways???
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Most of the Bird Singing / Bird Dancing cultures of what is now California, Arizona, Nevada, and northern Mexico.

While some younger members have embraced pow wow dancing of the plains, the majority don't want "Pan-Indianism".
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Any of the 14 First Nations of the Yukon:

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Ehdiitat Gwich'in Council
First Nation of Nacho Nyak Dun
Gwichya Gwich'in Council
Kluane First Nation
Little Salmon Carmacks First Nation
Nihtat Gwich'in Council
Selkirk First Nation
Ta'an Kwach'an Council
Teslin Tlingit Council
Tetlit Gwich'in Council
Tr'ondek Hwech'in
White River First Nation

or the BC First Nations:

Acho Dene Koe
Adams Lake Indian Band
Ahousaht First Nation
Aitchelitz Band
Alexandria Indian Band
Alexis Creek
Alliance Tribal Council (Naut'sa Mawt Tribe)
Ashcroft Indian Band
Atlin First Nation (Taku River Tlingit)
Beecher Bay First Nation (Scia'new First Nation)
Bella Bella Indian Band (Heiltsuk Nation)
Bella Coola Band (Nuxalk Nation)
Blueberry River First Nations
Bonaparte Indian Bands
Boothroyd Indian Bands
Boston Bar First Nation
Bridge River Indian Band
Burns Lake Indian Band
Burrard Band (Tsleil-Waututh First Nation)
Campbell River Indian Band
Canim Lake Indian Band
Canoe Creek Indian Band
Cape Mudge Band
Carcross/Tagish First Nation
Cariboo Tribal Council
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Cayoose Creek Band
Cheam Indian Band
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Chemainus First Nation
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Clinton Band (Whispering Pines Band)
Coldwater Indian Band
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Comox Indian Band (K’ ómoks Nation)
Cook's Ferry Indian Bands
Cowichan Tribes
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Deadman's Creek Band (Skeetchestn Band)
Dease River Band Council
Denetsaa Tse K'Nai First Nation (Prophet River)
Ditidaht First Nation
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Douglas First Nations
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Fort Langley Band (Kwantlen First Nation)
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Tumivut Inuit Aboriginal Culture

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I have met some pure traditionalists in my day that refuse to powwow because of how important they feel in supporting their own cultural ways. I think this is great. Because of their stance, I feel their tribal ceremonies will continue into the next generation.

Today I had the pleasure of of watching the Me_Wuk of California perform some of their traditional "Big Time Dances." I had never seen them before and the announcer said that they don't powwow.

Are there other tribes that you know of that don't powwow but choose to support their traditional ways???
I wonder why they feel they can't do both...honor their own ways and powwow?

My people aren't "powwow people" (Chickasaw), but I know other Chickasaws who stomp dance and powwow.
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Yaahl, you left out the Tumivut -
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Inuit don't live in either the Yukon or BC. They are over in NWT and Nunavut.
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Most of the Bird Singing / Bird Dancing cultures of what is now California, Arizona, Nevada, and northern Mexico.

While some younger members have embraced pow wow dancing of the plains, the majority don't want "Pan-Indianism".
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This is really strange to hear. Especially since the tribes that bird sing financially sponsor some high dollar contest powwows; San Manuel, Indio, Morongo, Saboba, Sycuan etc.
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yaa,

I think it is just a matter of time before the First Nations people in BC and Yukon begin sponsoring powwows on their reserves. There are powwows where the canoe people and Athabaskan people participate in intertribal dancing. But by and large you're right at this point in time.
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A little over half a century ago the tribes in New Mexico didn't powwow. The Navajos were the first to accept it. Then the Apaches. Then finally the Pueblos.

Today the largest powwow on earth is in New Mexico!
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I think it is just a matter of time before the First Nations people in BC and Yukon begin sponsoring powwows on their reserves. There are powwows where the canoe people and Athabaskan people participate in intertribal dancing. But by and large you're right at this point in time.
First off, Yukon First Nations do not live on reserves - we never have. Most of us signed off on our self government agreements creating a third tier form of government with the feds, territorial government. Second, we hold potlatches. We have no need to adopt a custom from the south. The elders already do their nut when they see someone using sweetgrass or talk about sweatlodges, they would ever agree to a pow-wow.

As for BC First Nations, they are in mid-negotiation for treaty and self government agreements. (SCC ruled in the mid 90s that the Royal Proclamation of 1763 did not apply to BC lands and tribes... so there were never any treaties signed or authority to set aside reservations.) The majority of FN hold potlatches there as well... you do see however in large Metis communities such as Taylor BC, a pow wow as well as "pow wows" being created in large urban centres for the urban rez folks.

Most BC First Nation hold an annual gathering (usually coincides with the salmon running or hunting season). The entire band usually participates but outsiders are seldom invited.

I can't see in my lifetime anything about the northwest coast changing to adopt southern and eastern ways. We fought hard to have our potlatches returned, not likely to give them up for something that isn't ours.
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First off, Yukon First Nations do not live on reserves - we never have. Most of us signed off on our self government agreements creating a third tier form of government with the feds, territorial government. Second, we hold potlatches. We have no need to adopt a custom from the south. The elders already do their nut when they see someone using sweetgrass or talk about sweatlodges, they would ever agree to a pow-wow.

As for BC First Nations, they are in mid-negotiation for treaty and self government agreements. (SCC ruled in the mid 90s that the Royal Proclamation of 1763 did not apply to BC lands and tribes... so there were never any treaties signed or authority to set aside reservations.) The majority of FN hold potlatches there as well... you do see however in large Metis communities such as Taylor BC, a pow wow as well as "pow wows" being created in large urban centres for the urban rez folks.

Most BC First Nation hold an annual gathering (usually coincides with the salmon running or hunting season). The entire band usually participates but outsiders are seldom invited.

I can't see in my lifetime anything about the northwest coast changing to adopt southern and eastern ways. We fought hard to have our potlatches returned, not likely to give them up for something that isn't ours.
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They are affirming aboriginal culture being practiced by the owners. They open up their reservations to their aboriginal brothers and sisters, out of admiration and respect.

Chairman Danny Tucker usually brings in the Eagle Staff at beginning of the Sycuan Powwow, to show support and respect, though he does not dance after that.

During the powwow dinner break, the Bird Singers get into action. Some of the younger plains native girls go out with the Bird Dancers at times.

Here is my video of the Chumash Day Powwow, an inter-tribal song -
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They are affirming aboriginal culture being practiced by the owners. They open up their reservations to their aboriginal brothers and sisters, out of admiration and respect.

Chairman Danny Tucker usually brings in the Eagle Staff at beginning of the Sycuan Powwow, to show support and respect, though he does not dance after that.

During the powwow dinner break, the Bird Singers get into action. Some of the younger plains native girls go out with the Bird Dancers at times.

Here is my video of the Chumash Day Powwow, an inter-tribal song -
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http://youtu.be/eBNr4g3yi-c
Amigo,

Would it be a true statement that Southern California Indians do Powwow?
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WWII brought many natives into sunny Southern California for military service, also the BIA Indian Relocation program of the 50's/60's brought natives from other states into California.

This was during the years B.C. (Before Casinos).

Mariages between the different tribes happened, especially in the urban settings. (especially after per cap LOL).

So now, you can see many people entering the Circle by permission through their family, or by friendship with a Plains person that relocated into California and is now sharing their culture.

Still, I have heard comments about resisting "pan-indianism".

Yet, I also know a Payumkawichum (Calif)that sits on a powwow drum, as well as Bird sings in his father's Luiseno language.

I'm just a witness to history.

Then I run into Oklahoma people that tell me "You haven't been to a REAL powwow until you go to OK".

So I said "O.K." LOL
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Would it be a true statement that Southern California Indians do Powwow?
All I can say, is that they got one heck of a Powwow Trail out in Southern Cali.

I forgot to mention Canadians coming down for these powwows. Lots of them, and some goot-looking ladies!
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I forgot to mention Canadians coming down for these powwows. Lots of them, and some goot-looking ladies!
Amigo,

There are some real lookers from Cali too. One of my first girlfriends was Chumash. Her family was heavily involved in powwows in Southern Cali.
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Sometimes tribes on the East Coast get a bad rap for different reasons. I met with the tribal chairman of the Pahmunkey Tribe. The Pamunkey were the largest tribe of the Powhatan Confederacy during American colonization. Today they have a reservation in Virginia.

Most of the other Virginia tribes have had powwows. The Pamunkey had been the one tribe that was a hold out because they still hold on to many of their traditions in their ever changing community. But now they are looking at the logistics and considering having their first powwow.

I hope I can help them establish one.
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