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Old 03-27-2013, 10:51 AM   #1
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Question Northern Cree FB drama

I got this email last week from our public affairs office.

Whatcha' think?

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"Indian songs sound so much better when they are sung in Indian languages.

Northern Cree was my #1 favorite. But they have a new song where they sing, "I read your status last night, you posted that someone else was holding you tight, you shared it with all our friends to see, I don't wanna go through this Facebook drama, so I pressed delete."

Facebook drama? Seriously?? Now we not only stop singing in our
language but sing something THIS crass? Northern Cree members who are receiving this email - if we lose our language, we lose everything. EVERYTHING. If you don't know your language, go to some elders and get them to translate the words for you but for God's sake, stop singing something this crass and that too in English!

To those who haven't heard this song, you can listen to it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...v=0fJX_QczU5w#!


Reservation Rats"
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:28 AM   #2
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A lot of round dance songs have verses in English, usually dealing with heart break, to which a lot of people can relate, at one time or another.

I guess that some modern day lyrics that people can relate to.
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one thing i think is it gets younger people interested,if you wan to get younger people involved you half to have a certian aspect of modern times in there.for example if you grew up wearing boots and cowboy hats and start up a singing practice wearing that stuff younger people who are really interested will want to learn,but those with just have a slight interest or none at all are gonna look at you crazy for dressing like that.now if you show up in baggy jeans and cut off shirts and your ball cap on backwards i think you might get there attention a little more.and sing songs that you understand first.like us who me i know a lot of people who got into singing 1st around 49 singing and round dance songs with english lyrics and after that when we got more interested in our own tribal songs just my thoughts
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I think I'm not the least bit concerned...
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FaceBook and YouTube have changed life as we know it, or knew it.

Done Deal.

This generation is gonna leave us behind in the dust, y'all better catch on!
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Not saying anything is "right or wrong" in first post.

Young people spend a lot of time on FaceBook because it is part of THEIR generation.

Cultural Evolution is getting faster with the technology....the traditions might not survive...
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Big screen powwow?

Instead of drum groups traveling so far, maybe they could set up SKYPE,

and be at the powwow on a BIG SCREEN TV?
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Im sorry but NORTHERN CREE is NOT the only drum that sings songs in English........
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so WhoMe what are you saying????? kiddn jus giving you crap!!!
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They were never going to, in the manner in which they have existed.
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They were never going to, in the manner in which they have existed.
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TODAY'S GENERATION:

Q. What's an Elder?

A. Somebody that's not on FaceBook.
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A. Somebody that's not on FaceBook.
I like it!

You know -- very oddly -- I've got these folks from about twelve to thirty that occasionally seek advice from me, now. It's very disconcerting.

When I was young, I was The Questioner. I questioned, everything. I wanted to know. I never accepted Elder speak or knowledge from someone just because they were old but had to know where it came from, relevance, applicability, and weighed arguments on merit. (Friends have called me both Vader and Spock due to perceived lack of emotion and highly analytical thought, at times.)

Here's the rub: I have no issue with folks being the same with me. It is intellectually stimulating for me to have a twenty-three year old say, "Zeke, that's bull****, here's what I'm going to do." I'm fine with that, some lessons can only be learned by touching the fire, and I want to hear what they're thinking. It keeps me young, it keeps me flexible. It keeps me growing.

And I do not feel disrespected by it.

But many do, and it's typically when they have assigned the word "Elder" to themselves.
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It's an awesome round dance tune with english lyrics....been done for years.....and these guys can sing ! I don't see a problem.
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I'm not a young person, but I've caused that same FB drama!!! SORRY!!! and now I'll never be an Elder!!!
so what are you saying? that all those hurting songs are written with you in mind?
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we should all understand that the modern world we live in is always changing. Pow wows are no different. In this case the topic is speaking of modern cyberspace inferences or FB drama, is that so different than singing of partying or old snags? I know a lot of english songs with different meanings to them. I see no difference. That is just my opinion.
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one thing i think is it gets younger people interested,if you wan to get younger people involved you half to have a certian aspect of modern times in there.for example if you grew up wearing boots and cowboy hats and start up a singing practice wearing that stuff younger people who are really interested will want to learn,but those with just have a slight interest or none at all are gonna look at you crazy for dressing like that.now if you show up in baggy jeans and cut off shirts and your ball cap on backwards i think you might get there attention a little more.and sing songs that you understand first.like us who me i know a lot of people who got into singing 1st around 49 singing and round dance songs with english lyrics and after that when we got more interested in our own tribal songs just my thoughts
Which language does your tribe speaks?
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so WhoMe what are you saying????? kiddn jus giving you crap!!!
I'm saying don't shoot the messenger! I was only delivering the message! *L

Actually, Northern Cree does compose songs in their language and I appreciate their good songs. I also appreciate a good roundy in English that I can relate to as well.

Native people are not static. We evolve and are dynamic cultures. We use modern modes of communication and travel in order to exchange and share our culture and music.
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I'm saying don't shoot the messenger! I was only delivering the message! *L

Actually, Northern Cree does compose songs in their language and I appreciate their good songs. I also appreciate a good roundy in English that I can relate to as well.

Native people are not static. We evolve and are dynamic cultures. We use modern modes of communication and travel in order to exchange and share our culture and music.
I know I was jus giving you crap Have a nice day!!
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