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Old 10-05-2014, 12:47 AM   #21
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:23 AM   #22
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Oh I wouldn't have pegged you for a cry baby, you must hanging around someone we know and it's rubbing off on you..

I think I will just stick to the arcade
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and im tired being judged cause im swedish or that i've not grew up in a family with any of these tribes cultures clans groups
Here is a very fundamental difference in worldview between European and American cultures and most of our cultures.

My people place great emphasis on children learning proper kinship behavior. Every level of consanguineal (blood), affinal (marriage) and ficitive (social) kinship binds one into a web of mutual support and obligations. You are to a great extent bounded by your relationship to those around you.

If these ties do not exist, you are not part of our nation. This is not a judgement; it is fact. No level of imagined rapport will make up for these ties. They are at the heart of our social structure and cohesion as a People.

Yes, like all groups we choose to enfold outsiders in the bonds of affinal and fictive kinship. But there is a key point in the prior sentence: "we choose." One of the fundamental activities of any group is determining who is a member. When outsiders declare themselves part of us by virtue of a "Red Heart", "Indian Spirit" or whatever metaphor they use, they are attacking our sovereignty. It is the equivalent of me getting off the plane at Arlanda, going to the nearest family get together, declaring myself a long-lost cousin, eating all the kroppkakor, and voting in the local election.


A piece of advice:

My people have stories about a Spirit that violates our culture's most fundamental and strict rules, and delights in tricking others into behaving in deviant ways, much to their woe. He does things like tricking mothers into eating a stew made from their babies. He lies and tells people what they want to hear to make fools or worse of them. His associates occasionally appear at ceremony and grants people the literal interpretation of their wishes, sometimes to their great regret.

[email protected]Joe's Dad's says: Beware those that tell you exactly what you want to hear. They may be trying to trick you into eating your children.

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Here is a very fundamental difference in worldview between European and American cultures and most of our cultures.

My people place great emphasis on children learning proper kinship behavior. Every level of consanguineal (blood), affinal (marriage) and ficitive (social) kinship binds one into a web of mutual support and obligations. You are to a great extent bounded by your relationship to those around you.

If these ties do not exist, you are not part of our nation. This is not a judgement; it is fact. No level of imagined rapport will make up for these ties. They are at the heart of our social structure and cohesion as a People.

Yes, like all groups we choose to enfold outsiders in the bonds of affinal and fictive kinship. But there is a key point in the prior sentence: "we choose." One of the fundamental activities of any group is determining who is a member. When outsiders declare themselves part of us by virtue of a "Red Heart", "Indian Spirit" or whatever metaphor they use, they are attacking our sovereignty. It is the equivalent of me getting off the plane at Arlanda, going to the nearest family get together, declaring myself a long-lost cousin, eating all the kroppkakor, and voting in the local election.


A piece of advice:

My people have stories about a Spirit that violates our culture's most fundamental and strict rules, and delights in tricking others into behaving in deviant ways, much to their woe. He does things like tricking mothers into eating a stew made from their babies. He lies and tells people what they want to hear to make fools or worse of them. His associates occasionally appear at ceremony and grants people the literal interpretation of their wishes, sometimes to their great regret.

[email protected]Joe's Dad's says: Beware those that tell you exactly what you want to hear. They may be trying to trick you into eating your children.
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for supporting me and pleased to meet you too elder
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by the way i am a full blood sla'pahoe

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Wow-I thought all of you guys were hiding in the mountains with those Cherokee who didn't want to be moved.
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Wow-I thought all of you guys were hiding in the mountains with those Cherokee who didn't want to be moved.
us SLA'PAHOE never hide. SLA'PAHOE pride!!!
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