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Old 03-13-2013, 06:40 PM   #1
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The Long March and the Trail of Tears

I am researching family and my uncle tells me a relative said some family was removed during something called "the Long March". He says it is like Trail of Tears, but I have never heard anyone call it that before. This relative always called it "the Long March". Is it another name for the Trail of Tears? My guess would be they ended up in Oklahoma. I am trying to figure out the nation.
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i don't know of The Long March, but there is the Long Walk of the Navajo which refers to the 1864 deportation and attempted ethnic cleansing of the Navajo people by the U.S. government. Navajos were forced to walk at gunpoint from their reservation in what is now Arizona to eastern New Mexico.
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i don't know of The Long March, but there is the Long Walk of the Navajo which refers to the 1864 deportation and attempted ethnic cleansing of the Navajo people by the U.S. government. Navajos were forced to walk at gunpoint from their reservation in what is now Arizona to eastern New Mexico.
Yep the only one I ever heard of
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I am researching family and my uncle tells me a relative said some family was removed during something called "the Long March". He says it is like Trail of Tears, but I have never heard anyone call it that before. This relative always called it "the Long March". Is it another name for the Trail of Tears? My guess would be they ended up in Oklahoma. I am trying to figure out the nation.
are your relatives chinese? they had a long 6,000 mile march, but ended up in shensi in northwest china during 1934-1935.
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are your relatives chinese? they had a long 6,000 mile march, but ended up in shensi in northwest china during 1934-1935.
Nope. American back past the revolutionary war.

I did find this odd bit in a book:
"The so-called settlement of America was a resettlement, a reoccupation of a land made waste by the diseases and demoralization introduced by the newcomers. It is an old and shameful story--a history largely fabled in the popular mind, seldom taught honestly in American schools, of murder and cultural suppression and displacement from native lands. It is most commonly dramatized in the 1830s Long March "removal" of the Five Civilized Tribes, when over a third of the people died on forced relocation to Oklahoma."
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Maybe they mean like the month March? Maybe my uncle got it messed and it is Long Walk. I'll have to call him.
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Nope. American back past the revolutionary war.

I did find this odd bit in a book:
"The so-called settlement of America was a resettlement, a reoccupation of a land made waste by the diseases and demoralization introduced by the newcomers. It is an old and shameful story--a history largely fabled in the popular mind, seldom taught honestly in American schools, of murder and cultural suppression and displacement from native lands. It is most commonly dramatized in the 1830s Long March "removal" of the Five Civilized Tribes, when over a third of the people died on forced relocation to Oklahoma."
Smoothing the Ground: Essays on Native American Oral Literature
Maybe they mean like the month March? Maybe my uncle got it messed and it is Long Walk. I'll have to call him.
Yeah they are talking about the Trail of Tears
It has come to be associated with the Cherokee but it really pertains to all 5 civilized tribes.
We did a study on the earliest mention of the phrase: "Trail of Tears" and the earliest account we can find was 1842 in a newspaper account.
Later in years we find the phrase; "The trail where they cried" which is somebodies idea of trying to sound authentic...

When I read accounts from survivors and decendants of survivors I am struck by the fact that it was not marked in any particular way such as naming it or even giving it a name to mark the event like some tribes do in oral histories.
It was a hard journey and that was it
That is how it was thought of
Why give it a name it was nothing to be celebrated...
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Yeah they are talking about the Trail of Tears
It has come to be associated with the Cherokee but it really pertains to all 5 civilized tribes.
We did a study on the earliest mention of the phrase: "Trail of Tears" and the earliest account we can find was 1842 in a newspaper account.
Later in years we find the phrase; "The trail where they cried" which is somebodies idea of trying to sound authentic...

When I read accounts from survivors and decendants of survivors I am struck by the fact that it was not marked in any particular way such as naming it or even giving it a name to mark the event like some tribes do in oral histories.
It was a hard journey and that was it
That is how it was thought of
Why give it a name it was nothing to be celebrated...
Thanks, Josiah! It may have even been said in context and not used as a name for a particular removal. I have to find out more. My ex-mom in law, who was Ojibwe said that Indian people called many of the removals marches because alot of the time the people were not allowed to simply walk, but were made by the soldiers to march. How horrible.
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