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Old 01-10-2013, 11:33 PM   #41
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im also part chicano.....from san luis valley so im an AMERICAN spic not mexican.......anyways when im not eating oven bread and fry bread i celebrate other part of my heritage by gettin crazy jealous and stabbin my girlfriends........what can i say....its hereditary AYEEEE
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I believe its confusing for some that are part NA and part something else. I am not full blooded Cherokee and I will talk with anyone that is interested in my nation. I am not stuck up or selfish about my culture or heritage. I believe we all come from something far greater then a simple family tree. Which often misses the whole point anyway. We should all embrace each other first and foremost as human beings. The rest will fall into place. At first I was nervous about speaking with my full blooded brothers from any nation. I was afraid they would not speak with me or listen to me. I thought they would think I was a wanna be or a part time indian! It was difficult to know what to do, but finally I realized that if you find a common ground, something you are both interested in, you can begin a small conversation. All babies need to crawl before they can walk. So it is with conversations, relationships etc. I am very pro NA and I have very strong opinions about NA issues. I think the difference is one must try and find a common ground. Even with another NA who may be full blooded. I have total respect for all NA's period. Full, part time. Which ever........
I will get to the point plain and simple so I may stick a fork in this mess I started and end it here and now I am Indian plain simple cause that's that
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It's never that simple.

Who/what we are in society is determined by that society.
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And what does that have to do with anything ? Either you are or you are not Indian. Where you live or where you plan to live makes no difference.
Maybe I like the idea of know for a fact that I am 5/8 Indian beside person who did quantum may have been a crazy glue sniffer I like the idea of know that the fact are fact jack .yes I am a Indian always have been always will be wardancer and I wil die Indian ps I no whiners . I simply mention subject about Cherokee nation and one little word about mo and all of a dud talking about mo . I got words about mo I don't give a hoot about mo it water under the bridge as of feb 2013 and as to your input on Oklahoma your dead wrong I spent over half of this year in Miami Oklahoma love the crap out of it
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You're going to need to be more specific...
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It's never that simple.

Who/what we are in society is determined by that society.
I am people there know I am and I can kick back and relax further more even have freinds there as well so please spare me from disrespect Zek it gets no more specific than that

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You're going to need to be more specific...
By good nite
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I am people there know I am and I can kick back and relax further more even have freinds there as well so please spare me from disrespect Zek it gets no more specific than that
Were I being disrespectful, you would know it.

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knowing in the right kind of spirit... isn't it that what make you an NDN? Hm... hm... and then are there those that go by bloodlines and spirit or just by bloodlines?

Haha... maybe a few 10.000 years back I had ancestors that mixed with NDN's and therefore I am NDN too because you got my blood as well. Uuuupsss...
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I got a mess of papers to show and last blood quantum deal the say I 5/8 but I want more than that so as I got every document proving I am more of the Sioux than Cherokee . Feel better by adding a d n a report showing it and very die that I am over half Sioux cause my tribes enrollment system requirements are 1/4 and I plan on livening in Miami,ok
Wow, did you miss my point. This thread was so not about you. I don't care if you're 9/8's Born-Again Sioux of the Northern Connecticut Swamps, LOL. I was trying to explain the importance of tribal citizenship standards to tribal sovereignty. I believe, the original poster was in fact trying to initiate a discussion of tribal enrollment standards and why they exist. Am I wrong?


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A CDIB is issued by the BIA and documents the degree of "Blood" in one or more federally recognized Tribes. It does not grant or prove tribal membership. Tribal enrollment documents are issued by the Tribe in question and are granted based on the enrollment standards defined in that Tribe's constitution.

"Sioux" isn't any one group of people. The people called "Sioux" speak three different languages. There are many groups -- Mdewakantonwan, Sisseton, Wahpekute, Wahpetonwan, Yankton, Yanktonai, Oglala, Sicangu, Sihaspa, O'ohenumpa, Itazipicho, Mnikhowozu, and Hunkpapa. In the US alone there are 16 federally recognized political entities that fall under the rubric of "Sioux." There are 9 or 10 more communities in Canada.

The federally recognized groups in the US are: Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes (Fort Peck Indian Reservation), Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe (Cheyenne River Indian Reservation), Crow Creek Sioux Tribe (Crow Creek Indian Reservation), Flandreau Santee Sioux Tribe (Flandreau Indian Reservation), Lower Brule Sioux Tribe (Lower Brule Indian Reservation), Lower Sioux Indian Community (Lower Sioux Indian Reservation), Oglala Lakota (Pine Ridge Indian Reservation), Prairie Island Indian Community (Prairie Island Indian Community), Rosebud Sioux Tribe (Rosebud Indian Reservation), Santee Sioux Nation (Santee Indian Reservation), Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux Community (Shakopee-Mdewakanton Indian Reservation), Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate (Lake Traverse Indian Reservation), Spirit Lake Tribe (Spirit Lake Reservation), Standing Rock Sioux Tribe (Standing Rock Indian Reservation), Upper Sioux Community (Upper Sioux Indian Reservation), Yankton Sioux Tribe (Yankton Sioux Indian Reservation).

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What's with dropping all the knowledge?

I'm just going to go sign up "Sioux" and call it good. Maybe I'll even make myself a Chief!
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What's with dropping all the knowledge?

I'm just going to go sign up "Sioux" and call it good. Maybe I'll even make myself a Chief!
Can I join your tribe ? Wait a minute , I thought you already had a tribe ? The Zeke-a-kees ! LOL
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I'm just going to go sign up "Sioux" and call it good. Maybe I'll even make myself a Chief!
Got news for u and wardancer one I am Sioux two I'm a spirit lake Sioux three don't think sign up is as easy as u think and making ur self a cheif lol cause u got me lag thing my *** off hard here
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knowing in the right kind of spirit... isn't it that what make you an NDN? Hm... hm... and then are there those that go by bloodlines and spirit or just by bloodlines?

Haha... maybe a few 10.000 years back I had ancestors that mixed with NDN's and therefore I am NDN too because you got my blood as well. Uuuupsss...
You and I may be related because my mom was half German. That makes us cousins.....maybe....could be.
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You and I may be related because my mom was half German. That makes us cousins.....maybe....could be.
How nice my friend. So may I asked what your other family side is? Ehm... sorry I keep getting mixed up at times. So you are Eskimo? Hm... one of my destinations for a visit is Greenland I would like to see and the Northern Territories, but never will be able to. Hm..

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knowing in the right kind of spirit... isn't it that what make you an NDN? Hm... hm... and then are there those that go by bloodlines and spirit or just by bloodlines?

Haha... maybe a few 10.000 years back I had ancestors that mixed with NDN's and therefore I am NDN too because you got my blood as well. Uuuupsss...
Well I am by spirit and by blood and I believe in the old ways and this membership stuff and haveing to dig this up that up is bull****e that certain people here and I say no name is a pain in my booty lol but I figure u know who I speak about but just don't say there name's please
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Wow, did you miss my point. This thread was so not about you. I don't care if you're 9/8's Born-Again Sioux of the Northern Connecticut Swamps, LOL. I was trying to explain the importance of tribal citizenship standards to tribal sovereignty. I believe, the original poster was in fact trying to initiate a discussion of tribal enrollment standards and why they exist. Am I wrong?


Also just to clarify few things for innocent bystanders to this thread:

A CDIB is issued by the BIA and documents the degree of "Blood" in one or more federally recognized Tribes. It does not grant or prove tribal membership. Tribal enrollment documents are issued by the Tribe in question and are granted based on the enrollment standards defined in that Tribe's constitution.

"Sioux" isn't any one group of people. The people called "Sioux" speak three different languages. There are many groups -- Mdewakantonwan, Sisseton, Wahpekute, Wahpetonwan, Yankton, Yanktonai, Oglala, Sicangu, Sihaspa, O'ohenumpa, Itazipicho, Mnikhowozu, and Hunkpapa. In the US alone there are 16 federally recognized political entities that fall under the rubric of "Sioux." There are 9 or 10 more communities in Canada.

The federally recognized groups in the US are: Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes (Fort Peck Indian Reservation), Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe (Cheyenne River Indian Reservation), Crow Creek Sioux Tribe (Crow Creek Indian Reservation), Flandreau Santee Sioux Tribe (Flandreau Indian Reservation), Lower Brule Sioux Tribe (Lower Brule Indian Reservation), Lower Sioux Indian Community (Lower Sioux Indian Reservation), Oglala Lakota (Pine Ridge Indian Reservation), Prairie Island Indian Community (Prairie Island Indian Community), Rosebud Sioux Tribe (Rosebud Indian Reservation), Santee Sioux Nation (Santee Indian Reservation), Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux Community (Shakopee-Mdewakanton Indian Reservation), Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate (Lake Traverse Indian Reservation), Spirit Lake Tribe (Spirit Lake Reservation), Standing Rock Sioux Tribe (Standing Rock Indian Reservation), Upper Sioux Community (Upper Sioux Indian Reservation), Yankton Sioux Tribe (Yankton Sioux Indian Reservation).
You right I just did not type it all in but I'm filing for both cdib plus enrollment
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Well I am by spirit and by blood and I believe in the old ways and this membership stuff and haveing to dig this up that up is bull****e that certain people here and I say no name is a pain in my booty lol but I figure u know who I speak about but just don't say there name's please
The truth is what you get mad about !

And those wonderful "old days".....well they just don't exist any more.....grow up !
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:30 AM   #59
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How nice my friend. So may I asked what your other family side is? Ehm... sorry I keep getting mixed up at times. So you are Eskimo? Hm... one of my destinations for a visit is Greenland I would like to see and the Northern Territories, but never will be able to. Hm..
No, not Eskimo. That was a joke I had going with my friend Grits&Beans. If you look at my profile, you will see me wearing a furry coat. Grits said I looked Eskimo, so I added "Eskimo wannabe" to my avatar. My family came from North Carolina. I believe my ancestry is listed in "About me" on my profile.

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Well I am by spirit and by blood and I believe in the old ways and this membership stuff and haveing to dig this up that up is bull****e that certain people here and I say no name is a pain in my booty lol but I figure u know who I speak about but just don't say there name's please
I don't know - people are different - all have the right to have their own opinions and should not be offensive, but then what's an offense to one must'nt necessarily be an offense to someone else. I try to keep myself neutral.

Was it ever an issue in the old days how much of an NDN one was? No, people just lived and did whatever they did, just normal. Either you are NDN or not - if not, maybe be friends with NDN's if they consider you trustworthy, what do I know? Just my opinion.

I used to never like my first name but when I found out that an indian tribe has that very same name, I began to like it. Why did I not like my first name? Because it stems from an old german legend and what I don't like about those old german and other european ways was always their metal helmets and fighting gear. But this now was way off topic.

Be who you are and if you know you are more a Sioux than anything else, then it's what you are and you know it. Is there so much need for having it written on paper? What's in the heart and spirit is what counts, again, my opinion.
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