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Historian 03-20-2006 02:48 PM

Old Photos - Ponca
 
The following are old photos taken from the Smithsonian Institution's collection within the National Anthropological Archives, except where noted otherwise.

Lone Chief, Standing Buffalo Bull, Iron Whip, Walks With Effort - Ponca - 1858
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04232.jpg

Iron Whip - Ponca - 1858
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04180.jpg

(seated L-R)
Big Elk, Standing Buffalo Bull, White Eagle, Standing Bear - Ponca - 1877
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04237.jpg

Standing Bear - Ponca - 1877
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04174.jpg

Big Snake (brother of Standing Bear) - Ponca - 1877
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04178.jpg

Standing Buffalo Bull - Ponca - 1877
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04197.jpg

White Swan - Ponca - 1877
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04189.jpg

Big Elk - Ponca - 1877
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04192.jpg

The Chief - Ponca - 1877
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04188.jpg

Hairy Grizzly Bear - Ponca - 1877
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04183.jpg

Smoke Maker - Ponca - 1877
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04190.jpg

White Eagle, Standing Bear - Ponca - no date
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/bell/06637000.jpg

Standing Bear - Ponca - 1881
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04175.jpg

Raises The Dust - Ponca - 1898
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04208b.jpg

Thomas Cry - Ponca - 1898 (omaha.lib.ne.us)
http://www.omaha.lib.ne.us/transmiss.../tmi00458.jpeg

Pete Mitchell (Dust Maker) - Ponca - 1898 (omaha.lib.ne.us)
http://www.omaha.lib.ne.us/transmiss.../tmi00473.jpeg

Pete Mitchell (Dust Maker) - Ponca - 1898 (photoswest.org)
http://photoswest.org/photos/10032126/10032137.jpg

Yellow Horse (brother of Standing Bear) - Ponca - 1906
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04177a.jpg

Horse Chief (son of White Eagle) - Ponca - 1906
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04182a.jpg

White Tail - Ponca - 1906
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04215.jpg

Little Soldier - Ponca - 1906
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04216a.jpg

Little Soldier - Ponca - 1914
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04217a.jpg

Walks With Effort - Ponca - 1914
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04220a.jpg

Big Goose - Ponca - 1914
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04222a.jpg

Crazy Bear - Ponca - 1914
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04226b.jpg

Ponca dancer - 1927 (memory.loc.gov)
http://memory.loc.gov/award/iencurt/ct19/ct19058r.jpg

Historian 09-08-2006 01:02 AM

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amarie49 09-08-2006 11:51 AM

Thank you for sharing these photos. I really enjoyed looking at them. Alot of people don't have access to these images and it's nice of you to post them for us to view.

Josiah 09-08-2006 02:42 PM

Correct me if I am wrong but does not the Picture of "Walks with Effort" Ponca 1914
Look like someone that Gourd Dances??
He has a Banderlero of what looks like Mescal Beans and Silver Beads and a neckerchef attached to it
He is wearing a white shirt and black pants with a nice Tie and a bird as a tie tack
And a Fan in his left hand And since we cant see his Left Hand I am guessing there is a gourd but maybe not
But to me this sure does look like someone that has Gourd Dance clothes on

Comments Anyone????

Historian 09-09-2006 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josiah
Correct me if I am wrong but does not the Picture of "Walks with Effort" Ponca 1914
Look like someone that Gourd Dances??
He has a Banderlero of what looks like Mescal Beans and Silver Beads and a neckerchef attached to it
He is wearing a white shirt and black pants with a nice Tie and a bird as a tie tack
And a Fan in his left hand And since we cant see his Left Hand I am guessing there is a gourd but maybe not
But to me this sure does look like someone that has Gourd Dance clothes on

Comments Anyone????

Josiah,
Your keen observations of the items worn by "Walks With Effort" (1914) do have a similarity to Gourd Dance items. However, I believe you are seeing the manner of dress for a Ponca man (typical in 1914) that was a member of the Native American Church.

Josiah 09-09-2006 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Historian
Josiah,
Your keen observations of the items worn by "Walks With Effort" (1914) do have a similarity to Gourd Dance items. However, I believe you are seeing the manner of dress for a Ponca man (typical in 1914) that was a member of the Native American Church.

I was going to make a comment that his tie tack reminded me of a waterbird that you would indeed associate with the NAC
. Very interesting, And also that he looks like a present day Gourd Dancer!
Thank you Historian for your Photos and comments I always learn something new when I talk with you...

CandaePrincess 09-27-2006 11:16 AM

I'm a descendant of Standing Buffalo and another cheif (can't remember the name at the moment), and I'm related to the Big Goose family. Neat pics! I have some old Kaw photos, might have to scan them and show them sometime!

Historian 09-27-2006 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CandaePrincess
I'm a descendant of Standing Buffalo and another cheif (can't remember the name at the moment), and I'm related to the Big Goose family. Neat pics! I have some old Kaw photos, might have to scan them and show them sometime!

That would be kewl !!
I would like to see some other old Kaw photos. I only have a few myself. Perhaps you could add them to the thread I started on Kaw photos a while ago.

travelingmocs 09-27-2006 11:52 PM

There is a picture of a fancy dancer, from the twentys. If memory serves that is Dennis RooughFace one of the starters of the "Crazy Dance" or now known today as the Oklahoma Fancy dance.

TMS

White Eagle 09-29-2006 03:49 AM

Those pictures look great!

I have a picture of my mother with real Chief with Warbonnet - (can't remember his name) in 1955.

I was surprise that pictures of "White Eagle" name same as mine!!!

Thanks for sharing those pictures!

Historian 09-30-2006 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Eagle
...I was surprise that pictures of "White Eagle" name same as mine!!!...

FYI...In reference to the photo of White Eagle (Ponca), it may interest you to know that his name Xitha'ska should more correctly be translated as, "Albino Eagle", or an Eagle that was un-naturally all white, a very special and rare bird.

Fat Albert 10-02-2006 05:05 AM

Historian, is this where White Eagle, OK got the name?

Also, from the same place Historian found the pictures, a delegation photo from 1914 including a few of the already pictured.
http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/baegn/gn_04234.jpg

Historian 10-02-2006 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Albert
Historian, is this where White Eagle, OK got the name?...

Yes...the community of White Eagle, Oklahoma near Ponca City is named after Chief White Eagle, shown below.

http://www.franksrealm.com/Indians/t...agle-ponca.jpg

For an interesting side note, go to: http://www.kaycounty.info/101_ranch/101_oldtimers.html

White Eagle 10-09-2006 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Historian
FYI...In reference to the photo of White Eagle (Ponca), it may interest you to know that his name Xitha'ska should more correctly be translated as, "Albino Eagle", or an Eagle that was un-naturally all white, a very special and rare bird.

Wado for let me know.

"an Eagle that was un-naturally all white, a very special and rare bird"

That's what I thought! :smile:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Historian
Yes...the community of White Eagle, Oklahoma near Ponca City is named after Chief White Eagle, shown below.

http://www.franksrealm.com/Indians/t...agle-ponca.jpg

For an interesting side note, go to: http://www.kaycounty.info/101_ranch/101_oldtimers.html

That is very interesting site!

I'll read all of them.


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