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Old 03-20-2006, 02:48 PM   #1
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Old Photos - Ponca

The following are old photos taken from the Smithsonian Institution's collection within the National Anthropological Archives, except where noted otherwise.

Lone Chief, Standing Buffalo Bull, Iron Whip, Walks With Effort - Ponca - 1858


Iron Whip - Ponca - 1858


(seated L-R)
Big Elk, Standing Buffalo Bull, White Eagle, Standing Bear - Ponca - 1877


Standing Bear - Ponca - 1877


Big Snake (brother of Standing Bear) - Ponca - 1877


Standing Buffalo Bull - Ponca - 1877


White Swan - Ponca - 1877


Big Elk - Ponca - 1877


The Chief - Ponca - 1877


Hairy Grizzly Bear - Ponca - 1877


Smoke Maker - Ponca - 1877


White Eagle, Standing Bear - Ponca - no date


Standing Bear - Ponca - 1881


Raises The Dust - Ponca - 1898


Thomas Cry - Ponca - 1898 (omaha.lib.ne.us)


Pete Mitchell (Dust Maker) - Ponca - 1898 (omaha.lib.ne.us)


Pete Mitchell (Dust Maker) - Ponca - 1898 (photoswest.org)


Yellow Horse (brother of Standing Bear) - Ponca - 1906


Horse Chief (son of White Eagle) - Ponca - 1906


White Tail - Ponca - 1906


Little Soldier - Ponca - 1906


Little Soldier - Ponca - 1914


Walks With Effort - Ponca - 1914


Big Goose - Ponca - 1914


Crazy Bear - Ponca - 1914


Ponca dancer - 1927 (memory.loc.gov)
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Thank you for sharing these photos. I really enjoyed looking at them. Alot of people don't have access to these images and it's nice of you to post them for us to view.
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Correct me if I am wrong but does not the Picture of "Walks with Effort" Ponca 1914
Look like someone that Gourd Dances??
He has a Banderlero of what looks like Mescal Beans and Silver Beads and a neckerchef attached to it
He is wearing a white shirt and black pants with a nice Tie and a bird as a tie tack
And a Fan in his left hand And since we cant see his Left Hand I am guessing there is a gourd but maybe not
But to me this sure does look like someone that has Gourd Dance clothes on

Comments Anyone????
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Correct me if I am wrong but does not the Picture of "Walks with Effort" Ponca 1914
Look like someone that Gourd Dances??
He has a Banderlero of what looks like Mescal Beans and Silver Beads and a neckerchef attached to it
He is wearing a white shirt and black pants with a nice Tie and a bird as a tie tack
And a Fan in his left hand And since we cant see his Left Hand I am guessing there is a gourd but maybe not
But to me this sure does look like someone that has Gourd Dance clothes on

Comments Anyone????
Josiah,
Your keen observations of the items worn by "Walks With Effort" (1914) do have a similarity to Gourd Dance items. However, I believe you are seeing the manner of dress for a Ponca man (typical in 1914) that was a member of the Native American Church.
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Josiah,
Your keen observations of the items worn by "Walks With Effort" (1914) do have a similarity to Gourd Dance items. However, I believe you are seeing the manner of dress for a Ponca man (typical in 1914) that was a member of the Native American Church.
I was going to make a comment that his tie tack reminded me of a waterbird that you would indeed associate with the NAC
. Very interesting, And also that he looks like a present day Gourd Dancer!
Thank you Historian for your Photos and comments I always learn something new when I talk with you...
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I'm a descendant of Standing Buffalo and another cheif (can't remember the name at the moment), and I'm related to the Big Goose family. Neat pics! I have some old Kaw photos, might have to scan them and show them sometime!
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I'm a descendant of Standing Buffalo and another cheif (can't remember the name at the moment), and I'm related to the Big Goose family. Neat pics! I have some old Kaw photos, might have to scan them and show them sometime!
That would be kewl !!
I would like to see some other old Kaw photos. I only have a few myself. Perhaps you could add them to the thread I started on Kaw photos a while ago.
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There is a picture of a fancy dancer, from the twentys. If memory serves that is Dennis RooughFace one of the starters of the "Crazy Dance" or now known today as the Oklahoma Fancy dance.

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Those pictures look great!

I have a picture of my mother with real Chief with Warbonnet - (can't remember his name) in 1955.

I was surprise that pictures of "White Eagle" name same as mine!!!

Thanks for sharing those pictures!
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...I was surprise that pictures of "White Eagle" name same as mine!!!...
FYI...In reference to the photo of White Eagle (Ponca), it may interest you to know that his name Xitha'ska should more correctly be translated as, "Albino Eagle", or an Eagle that was un-naturally all white, a very special and rare bird.
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Historian, is this where White Eagle, OK got the name?

Also, from the same place Historian found the pictures, a delegation photo from 1914 including a few of the already pictured.
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Yes...the community of White Eagle, Oklahoma near Ponca City is named after Chief White Eagle, shown below.



For an interesting side note, go to: http://www.kaycounty.info/101_ranch/101_oldtimers.html
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FYI...In reference to the photo of White Eagle (Ponca), it may interest you to know that his name Xitha'ska should more correctly be translated as, "Albino Eagle", or an Eagle that was un-naturally all white, a very special and rare bird.
Wado for let me know.

"an Eagle that was un-naturally all white, a very special and rare bird"

That's what I thought!

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Yes...the community of White Eagle, Oklahoma near Ponca City is named after Chief White Eagle, shown below.



For an interesting side note, go to: http://www.kaycounty.info/101_ranch/101_oldtimers.html
That is very interesting site!

I'll read all of them.
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