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Old 09-06-2004, 11:26 AM   #1
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Question Other Straight Dance Organizations

There seems to be a good amount of information available, if you know where to look for it in written text or if you know who to ask, when it comes to Straight Dance organizations such as the Ponca Hethuska Society, the Omaha Hethushka Society and the three Osage Inlonshka Societies. But what about other Straight Dance organizations?

Would anyone like to share information they know concerning organizations such as:

Ioway-Otoe Iroshka Society
Comanche War Dance Organization
Pawnee Iruska Society

...or other traditions that have a distant relationship such as:

Kiowa Ohomau Lodge
Heruska Songs of the Ho-Chunk Nation
Heyoska Songs of the Dakota, Arikara and Hidatsa
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The Otoe-Missouria and Iowa are distant relatives of the Ho-Chunk. Their dialects certainly reflect this relationship. The Ho-Chunk traditionally sing in a lower tone today associated with Southern Singing. The revival of the Ho-Chunk Haylushka under the leadership of the Good Village Foundation was scheduled to take place this year (Website: http://www.thebearbyte.com/NAResource/goodvillage.htm). at Good Village, a private wooded and historic village-site within the ancient Ho-Chunk (a.k.a. Winnebago) homeland in Adams County, 8-miles north of Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin.

The Iowa no longer have a formal Man Dance Society. The Otoe-Missouria still observe their Man Dance Heloshka in December under the leadership of Ronnie Plumely.

I am not familiar enough with the Comanche War Dance Organization to give you any information.

The Pawnees still have their man dance Hedoshkas/Iruskas. Each year the Pawnee Veterans, Kitkihahki and Skidi Bands have their traditional man dance ceremonies either at their outside arbor or round house.

The Kiowa Ohoma Lodge came to them via: the Umonhon (Omaha) - to the Lakota - then to the Tssisistas (Cheyenne) Dog Men who taught the Kiowa this tradition. The Ohoma Lodge traditional ceremonies are held the last weekend in July.

The Dakota, Arikara and Hidatsa also have man dance societies called "Grass Dance Societies." Among the Dakota this dance was called the O-Mah-Ha (Dance) Society.

The Arikara and Hidatsa still have active grass dance societies. Some of the Arikara grass dance ceremonial songs are the same as the Pawnee (Skidi Band) Irushka songs.

I have heard that at least one Hidatsa ceremonial song used in the grass dance is also used in Crow ceremonies. I cannot verify this first hand.

This stemmed back from from Arikara/Skidi and Hidatsa/Crow relationships that were part of their historical past.

It would seem natural that they shared songs back and forth.
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Not mentioned are the Kaw (Kanza) who were instrumental in giving the Osage their Inlonshka (along with the Ponca). The Kaw observe their Man Dance tradition with "four tail dances" to begin their annual powwow.

Plus . . .the non Indians have at least 3 active man dance societies that I am aware of.
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there should be 4 non-indian Heluska organizations; California Heluska, Lone Star War Dance Society, White Bear, and AIS Man Dance Organization.
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Related dance among the Canadian Piegan

The Piegan still have their Parted Hair Society.
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