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Old 12-08-2007, 01:43 PM   #1
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Can a white guy Fancy Feather Dance?

I hope there is someone out there than can help me. I am a white guy who just happens to love watching the Fancy Dancers at local Pow Wow's. I have dreamed of doing this myself, but don't wish to disrespect the native culture by doing it unless it's not a problem. If it is possible, and there is someone out there who might be able to help me, I would very much appreciate it. I am in the Edmonton Alberta Canada area and am willing to give this however much time it would take to learn this beautiful form of dance. Please feel free to contact me.

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.... they just can't jump.


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Be prepared for the heat, and to be put on a bit of a **** list with this question, just because a white person likes the style of dance, doesn't mean they can do it, allot of native people would see that as imitation, and stealing culture, which has gone on for a very long time already...
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I agree that could happen, but that's why I am asking. I would never ever want to make it seem like I was trying to imitate or cheapen the dance in any way. I was hoping to talk to and maybe learn from a local who would help me realize a dream. I don't wish to just dance, I wish to become part of the dance. That last thing I ever want to do is offend anyone. Thank you :)
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You will first need to decide northern plains or southern plains fancy war dancing. Now, some fancy dance steps have meanings especially with the southern plains. Some steps are very old so as such, you'll need to have somebody teach you.

Have you decided where you're going to go to find someone? Do you know what to bring or how to ask?
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Being from Alberta Canada, I wish to learn the Northern Plains Fancy. I am actually on this site to hopefully find someone who would like to take on the challenge of teaching me. While I have admired and watched the dances for years, I have never spoken with anyone about my dream of one day doing it myself. I have started some research as to what it all entails and am very excited about what I have learned so far. I actually choose to ask about the Fancy Dance because of the fact that while some of the steps are very old, the actual for of dance is fairly new (early 1900's). I figured this would be the smoothest way as to not offend anyone. The other reason was the AMAZING regalia. In my mind, it doesn't get more beautiful than that.
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Being from Alberta Canada, I wish to learn the Northern Plains Fancy. I am actually on this site to hopefully find someone who would like to take on the challenge of teaching me. While I have admired and watched the dances for years, I have never spoken with anyone about my dream of one day doing it myself. I have started some research as to what it all entails and am very excited about what I have learned so far. I actually choose to ask about the Fancy Dance because of the fact that while some of the steps are very old, the actual for of dance is fairly new (early 1900's). I figured this would be the smoothest way as to not offend anyone. The other reason was the AMAZING regalia. In my mind, it doesn't get more beautiful than that.
Our lives are a challenge enough and you want us to be challenged by your inexperience? You'll need to allow yourself plenty of time and find someone who will help you out.

You still haven't answered my question: Do you know what to bring and how to ask?
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Mike,

Sure!


White guys CAN dance!


.... they just can't jump.


*L


j/k

lol, thought i was going to come on and make a cute azz comment but there you are!!!!
dang leave some glory for the rest of us.
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Our lives are a challenge enough and you want us to be challenged by your inexperience? You'll need to allow yourself plenty of time and find someone who will help you out.

You still haven't answered my question: Do you know what to bring and how to ask?
oh here we go...
oops to late.
lol, let's see where this goes.
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"Our lives are a challenge enough and you want us to be challenged by your inexperience? You'll need to allow yourself plenty of time and find someone who will help you out.

You still haven't answered my question: Do you know what to bring and how to ask?"

I know I am inexperienced, but that is why I am posting here. I also know this sort of thing doesn't take overnight, nor should it. And to answer the question.... I don't know what to bring or who to ask, that's why I'm here. I have only seen the actual performances and not practice. I can assume that full regalia is not needed for that. And please, I'm not looking to get into any arguments over this topic. I'm just doing my best to be respectful and ask before doing.

Thank you.
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"Our lives are a challenge enough and you want us to be challenged by your inexperience? You'll need to allow yourself plenty of time and find someone who will help you out.

You still haven't answered my question: Do you know what to bring and how to ask?"

I know I am inexperienced, but that is why I am posting here. I also know this sort of thing doesn't take overnight, nor should it. And to answer the question.... I don't know what to bring or who to ask, that's why I'm here. I have only seen the actual performances and not practice. I can assume that full regalia is not needed for that. And please, I'm not looking to get into any arguments over this topic. I'm just doing my best to be respectful and ask before doing.

Thank you.
Sure, let me give RG Harris or Todd Red Bear a call for you. Just kidding. The only way is to attend powwow after powwow, intertribal after intertribal, honor song after honor song, specials after specials. After a number of years, you may be ready.
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Thank you wardancer. I agree... respect is the number one thing. I have been getting some VERY good private emails about this and I appreciate all the help from everyone.
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You might ask " lostsalt" ! Good luck with the "learning" , just remember it's not an overnight thing ! "Respect" is a good start.
hey thanks for the green, miss you to brother.
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I have been holding back for the past few days, but I just have to say this. I was asking the question to gather information. All I have EVER done my entire life is respect the native culture and people and all I seem to ever hear is how there is no respect from the white man towards natives. Now here I am, trying to possible bridge that gap and all I get are a bunch of negative, really dumb, responses. Perhaps this is something to think about for the few of you who have made my latest experience somewhat jaded. Of course I am expecting the usual responses even to this, buy HEY, I don't care. 99% of the native population I can respect, the other 1% feel free to keep posting on this thread.
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I have been holding back for the past few days, but I just have to say this. I was asking the question to gather information. All I have EVER done my entire life is respect the native culture and people and all I seem to ever hear is how there is no respect from the white man towards natives. Now here I am, trying to possible bridge that gap and all I get are a bunch of negative, really dumb, responses. Perhaps this is something to think about for the few of you who have made my latest experience somewhat jaded. Of course I am expecting the usual responses even to this, buy HEY, I don't care. 99% of the native population I can respect, the other 1% feel free to keep posting on this thread.

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You were gathering information for what? So that you'd be able to do dance without the proper protocol? 1.0% percent can make a big difference for this 1.0% may include your future mentor.
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I have been holding back for the past few days, but I just have to say this. I was asking the question to gather information. All I have EVER done my entire life is respect the native culture and people and all I seem to ever hear is how there is no respect from the white man towards natives. Now here I am, trying to possible bridge that gap and all I get are a bunch of negative, really dumb, responses. Perhaps this is something to think about for the few of you who have made my latest experience somewhat jaded. Of course I am expecting the usual responses even to this, buy HEY, I don't care. 99% of the native population I can respect, the other 1% feel free to keep posting on this thread.

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