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Old 04-30-2005, 03:07 AM   #1
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wut do u guyz think about cuttin and pastin old songs to make new ones. cuz its hard to come up with a new one that dosent sound remotley close to sum1 elses.
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wut do u guyz think about cuttin and pastin old songs to make new ones. cuz its hard to come up with a new one that dosent sound remotley close to sum1 elses.
Looking at your location (ATL - Atlanta), this question doesn't surprise me at all.

Don't insult true songmakers by doing this.
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Looking at your location (ATL - Atlanta), this question doesn't surprise me at all.

Don't insult true songmakers by doing this.
who is this sonny, which drum U sing wit? man u gonna feel pretty crunchy when we make it to gathering next year. ill be sure to send u a cd. besides berky and neil live in atlanta. aint nothin wrong wit atlanta. guy that sits in wit me got second place at gatherin in mens fancy (southern) so wut. have of southern boys and youngbirds songs are cut and pasted anyways, and they made them sound good. u prolly sing northern anyways. easier to jam out a northern tune than a southern. burnt.
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who is this sonny, which drum U sing wit? man u gonna feel pretty crunchy when we make it to gathering next year. ill be sure to send u a cd. besides berky and neil live in atlanta. aint nothin wrong wit atlanta. guy that sits in wit me got second place at gatherin in mens fancy (southern) so wut. have of southern boys and youngbirds songs are cut and pasted anyways, and they made them sound good. u prolly sing northern anyways. easier to jam out a northern tune than a southern. burnt.
First off, I'd be highly shocked if you were a day over 16. If you are, I feel sorry for you.

Secondly, don't even bring respectable people like Berky and Neil into this idiotic conversation about pasting songs together. Those two guys are good singers and come from a very respected family in OKLAHOMA. That was my point. You are from GA.

Thirdly, yes I do sing northern, and I'd be eager, very eager, for you to tell me how it's easier to singer northern than southern.

Lastly, if you're going to take offense at our opinions, why did you ask in the first place? Why didn't you just jack some songs (without permission no doubt), cut them up, paste them back together and call them your own? Apparently that is what you're going to do anyways.

As far as your "burning" me...we'll see who's burnt if you go to Oklahoma or Gatherings with your chopped up version of someone else's songs.

Man, things are changing. People seeking personal glory and contest wins seem to be more and more. Hopefully there are still some of us left who just enjoy singing.
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Well, let me take this time to fill up your afternoon - it might take you a while to feel the effect.

Don't feel sorry for me as my life is respectably full including our rights to songs coming from our relatives in Oklahoma. Can you say Antelope? Let's don't even get to the society songs. My intention was not to name drop for the sake of it but to bring variety into a possibly boring conversation. You must be seriously archaeic to think folks REMAIN in Oklahoma forever. If you ever do come to Ga, not only will you be surprised but probably not as welcome as you might have expected to be.

Is it not possible in the scheme of all greater things, ideas outside of the box we are put in by society are where great ideas are born? Cut & Paste is a simple syntax and as old as the earth since there was only one beginning. Everything from one is a cut and paste whether by sound or word. You shouldn't take life so literally. It is you who we need to be sorry for.


As for Northern, some of you guys don't have a clue as to how a southern song should flow. If however, you are one who understands slow melodic beautiful notes, then perhaps you are indeed rare. If this is true, my sincerest apologies.

In regards to impact of opinions, if you were providing an opinion and not a stereotypical remark, one might consider it's contents.

In regards, to the powwow trail, I'm sure you'll see us around -- be sure to watch The Gathering next year. It's not about personal glory, it's about respect. It's about unification, progression and moving forward. Perhaps we should turn around and help you along.

Oh and by the way, I wasn't saying it was easier to sing northern, I was referring to making a song.
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[QUOTE=suthernwaterbird]
Is it not possible in the scheme of all greater things, ideas outside of the box we are put in by society are where great ideas are born? Cut & Paste is a simple syntax and as old as the earth since there was only one beginning. Everything from one is a cut and paste whether by sound or word. You shouldn't take life so literally. It is you who we need to be sorry for.
QUOTE]

Don't be so literal huh? So now you're backtracking? Just face it...your first post was that you were going to take song A and song B and "compose" song C and call it your own. Now you're talking about the great scheme of things in life. Give me a break.

Let me quote you also...you said in your earlier post "easier to jam out a northern tune than a southern." Maybe I'm behind the times on the slang, but I've always thought "jam out" or "to jam" meant to sing a song, not compose one. If I am mistaken and missed your point, sorry about that.

My main point is let songs come to you or compose them when you're asked. Don't piece together other's songs just to record an album or sing at Gathering. And if I'm not welcome in Georgia, my heart will simply break.
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Hi there,

Doesn't this just get interesting every reply or irritating, not quite sure yet.

Ok, here we go. I'm not backtracking, one has to start somewhere when introducing concept, yeah maybe this is also a bit difficult for you to understand. Perhaps you and I just can't communicate. Seems so and you get your breaks somewhere else.

Finally, the objective is indeed to have a finished product enjoyable by singers and dancers alike that includes ones own identity as well as the nature of those songs which have left presence or impact on us before. If debate or discussion has parameters on content then why bother to experient -- gee I guess the music industry should just stop since we could just repeat until the end of time.

And.... should you miss Georgia, your heart simply should break.
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Oh....oh....can't.....breathe......bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

I'm seriously about to wet my pants laughing. First of all,you are not cool to even SUGGEST what you suggested above. Secondly,it's funny how your first post changed from all "guyz" and "som1" to all "syntax" and "finished product". Someone have to come fight your battles for you?? LMAO

Just get over yourself already. I think I know who you are,and I must say,you're not all that! You have a LONG way to go,and this post just proves that. All I can say is GOOD LUCK! You're gonna need it.




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Who am I then? Who are you?? Just because I know how to be politically correct, dosen't mean I need people to fight my battles. Who are you to tell me anything. What did I suggest that happens to be so "not cool"? It seems that you are interfering into somthing that dosen't concern you.
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If you don't want opinions or suggestions,here's a newsflash for ya :DON'T POST IT ON A MESSAGE BOARD.

You're suggestion of taking bits of songs of different drums and mixing it for your own sound is NOT cool. You obviously know NOTHING about writing/singing songs and quite frankly are coming off as a really disrespectful person. My advice to you is to step back and really look at what you're suggesting. What did you think people where going to tell you to do? To go for it! Ya. Right. Get real!
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Your right you have your opions but opions can be harsh. Forgive me for defending myself.
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Whatever.

Just tell me that you're NOT going to do this. Don't people in the SE have a bad enough name already? Geez.

I emplore you to find it in your heart to have a little respect. And take your ego down a notch or two. Trust me,with a big head,you won't get far!
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If you don't want opinions or suggestions,here's a newsflash for ya :DON'T POST IT ON A MESSAGE BOARD.

You're suggestion of taking bits of songs of different drums and mixing it for your own sound is NOT cool. You obviously know NOTHING about writing/singing songs and quite frankly are coming off as a really disrespectful person. My advice to you is to step back and really look at what you're suggesting. What did you think people where going to tell you to do? To go for it! Ya. Right. Get real!
Write songs? ROFL And....to you Suthernwaterbird.. I know Berky very well cause he's my brother but who are the other 2 dudes? The guys and gals in my family can sing both Northern and Southern!!!!! Singing is supposed to make you feel good not cause arguements. I've been around that drum for years and one of the main things is to "BEHAVE YOURSELVES' and be nice.

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Write songs? ROFL
And....to you Suthernwaterbird.. I know Berky very well cause he's my brother but who are the other 2 dudes? The guys and gals in my family can sing both Northern and Southern!!!!! Singing is supposed to make you feel good not cause arguements. I've been around that drum for years and one of the main things is to "BEHAVE YOURSELVES' and be nice.
Well...I didn't really mean write so much as compose.
LOL.

Wihey,it's likely this person doesn't even know Berky. He's likely just throwing names out there. Neil(which is one of the other guys he mentioned) also sings(sung?) with Berky and the other Plainsmen.
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Well...I didn't really mean write so much as compose.
LOL.

Wihey,it's likely this person doesn't even know Berky. He's likely just throwing names out there. Neil(which is one of the other guys he mentioned) also sings(sung?) with Berky and the other Plainsmen.
Funny guy. Oh I know Berkely, he lives north of Gainesville. I talked him the other night. Oh and by the way, I sang with The Plainsmen for about 7 years. Berky hasn't sang with the Plainsmen since 2000, and Neil sure hasn't either. They sing with Ron Gibson as GoodHeart most of the time, Or just recently The Lords of the Plains with Otto Mahsetkey. Not that Berky sings much anymore because he happens to have job. Very busy. So you see, how can I not know Berky or Neil or hmm Freddy and Nick and all those guys. Plainsmen HAH.
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Whatever.

Just tell me that you're NOT going to do this. Don't people in the SE have a bad enough name already? Geez.

I emplore you to find it in your heart to have a little respect. And take your ego down a notch or two. Trust me,with a big head,you won't get far!
Yeah...folks out here on the East Coast, particularly those in the SE do have a bad name...but thats due mainly in part to various other reason. We shall not go there today!

As a southern singer out here in the South-East, I can understand why the present day Ok. Indian People will get upset. I sit and listen to some of the things I hear on the pow wow trail (i.e. rushed loud beats, incorrectly sang words) and I just hang my head. I sit and think..."This is why I have such a hard time! This is why I was so furious for having to prove myself everytime I turn around."

For those of you critiquing those of us out here in the SE, I hope you can look past the ignorance of some of the people. I'm not saying this is anyone on this board or in this thread. Just know that I see what you see and you see what I see. Make sure you take that extra minute to see and hear those who do it right.

For those who may not had the chance to make a pilgrimage out the Ok., take your time....do it right....get in good with someone so they can take you around and help you find your way around Ok. This will make you a better singer in the long run.

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Originally Posted by Mazola
NDNTacO49,I like your corn! :D
A-HO just lookin at it make me want a BIGG oL' Bowl of NDNCorN with a Two, naw Three BIGG peices o' FRYBreaD!!

TasTY!
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