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Old 09-29-2012, 12:35 AM   #1
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Can I get some advice regarding feathers?

I'm Non-Native but I knew where to look and what it boils down to is this:

Are the nicer feathers I see around so much in dancer regalia that are used in place of actual eagle feathers and other birds achieved with an airbrush and some sort of dye? I have found plenty of tutorials about ironing them but nothing regarding the artistic merit.
I'm not trying to obtain eagle feathers, or replicas thereof, that would be making it too easy on myself. lol Instead, trying to achieve something else entirely and I figured if there was a place to give it a shot, this would be it.

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Old 09-29-2012, 02:09 AM   #2
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Have a look in the tutorial and craft forums for Spotted Eagle and Walea49feather work threads.
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Sooooo ,if you are non-native, what do you need feathers for ?
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Sooooo ,if you are non-native, what do you need feathers for ?
This must be a post in an alternative reality.. his first post was about being 1/32 Choctaw and enrolled...

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I hope it's not too late to add my .02. I've been going to powwows and doing my best to absorb what Native America will allow me to for 20 years and I'm 1/32 Choctaw (enrolled, the whole bit) from a large white family that, like the original poster only sort of get it. When we found out, we underwent some sort of renaissance that really left me scratching my head.
All of a sudden I had aunts and uncles trying to tell me about buffalo and eagles and flashing their "Indian Card" and I'm too tired of trying to tell them that with their exploitive attitude the only thing they have in common with their Aboriginal forefathers is being the last in a long line of monetarily poor people from Oklahoma with regular names that lived in houses and not Bull Face in a Tipi. They didn't care to learn the language even though it's offered free, and they were hearing nothing of playing stick ball. But who wants to listen to a 13 year old anyways?
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This must be a post in an alternative reality.. his first post was about being 1/32 Choctaw and enrolled...
LOL Yes , I saw that one after this one. I commented on it also !
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When I said Im non-native that was a blanket statement reflecting my original purpose.
I should have been more clear, but I also would like to add that it's not North American Raptor Feathers that I'm after, nor Native Purpose. They don't do the same thing for me as they might do for you which is fine.

So to be clear-I am looking for the method to replicate a feather from an extinct bird from elsewhere. It's not going to find its way to any powwow soon or any places anyone else goes en masse regularly for that matter but I did figure that if I could find someone who knew how, it would be here and not the _______ forums.

I didn't come here to step on any toes, alright?

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I didn't come here to step on any toes, alright?
I have no problem either way , just curious . There are an enormous amount of posters on here at any given time and with that a lot of totally ridiculous questions and ideas.
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Ok cool haha. The internet doesn't carry mood or context very well does it?
Let's start over-Hello, I would like to know, if you do, do the dancers who require replica Eagle feathers have them airbrushed, or by other means? I am trying to replicate what I would perceive a Haast's Eagle or that of another bird feather to look like. While not something remotely related to PowWows or North America at all I figured the technique could be found among what might be the best source.
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Some of the replicas are air brushed. Some use brushing/dabbing and stippling. There are several techniques which help with making a halfway decently looking reproduction. Probably most important is to use a paint or dye the doesn't foul the barbs to point where the feather can't be preened. Another is cutting the feather to the correct shape.

There are a couple books on the process. The one I've seen -- sorry the title escapes me at the moment -- wasn't too specific about what dyes or paints to use.
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Some of the replicas are air brushed. Some use brushing/dabbing and stippling. There are several techniques which help with making a halfway decently looking reproduction. Probably most important is to use a paint or dye the doesn't foul the barbs to point where the feather can't be preened. Another is cutting the feather to the correct shape.

There are a couple books on the process. The one I've seen -- sorry the title escapes me at the moment -- wasn't too specific about what dyes or paints to use.
Thank You. I'll start here.
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