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Old 07-30-2003, 12:19 AM   #21
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But you said he uses the whole porcupine, just before that you say the deer tail base and porky hair.

Sit back and grab a cola and I will tell you of the first choctaw grass dancer.

A long time ago when powwows where popping up all over the place a young choctaw man, ventured into the wild unknown. The NORTH. (que scary music) As he walked along his way he found a powwow. (Dum Dum DUUUUUM)
He recognized the sound of the drum but the words were wrong, and the people danced funny like they were falling over. They had grass tucked into their belts and some were holding grass above them. Our hero figured the grass tucked into the belt must have itched so he was reluctant to try it. The dancers invited him over to learn this new dance he said sure but he first must find some realy good grass. (you know how dancers are gotta have the best) Before he had gotten completely away the dancers told him to grab a porcupine and put it on his head. Now while our hero was searching for a porcupine and trying to figure out how not to get some "neccesary equipment" itchy he found some white cloth. Then it hit him he rubbed it in the grass to make it green and tucked it into his belt. YAY no itch! He found a porcupine and stuck it on his head (not without sticking himself several times mind you) He heard the drums and went running towards the grand entry line and got some cotton stuck on his porcupine. When he got in line Guees who he saw. That's right Wapescha. Our Choctaw hero entered into the contest, He was given contest number 49, but thats a whole other story. During the contest it began to sprinkle. The water washed away the grass stains revealing the cut up white cloth tucked into the belt. Our hero was embaressed, but Wapescha loved the idea he imeaditly tore up his blanket and tucked it into his belt. And so began the white yarn and ribbon fringe on grass dancers. Our Hero won first place and went back home a hero only to find that his whole tribe was moved due to the indian removal act of 1830.
Also another story.
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Old 07-30-2003, 01:02 AM   #22
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but he first must find some realy good grass. (you know how dancers are gotta have the best)
You know, around here that is illegal....

But seriously, when you heard this story at the jamboree, did they happen to mention what the grass represented??
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Ooh of course it's the waving prarie grass, and the white yarn represented the purifiacation of the dance circle.

For real though, I made it up. And yours doesn't seem to have much truth in it either. C'mon the roach was around long before competion powwows.

Anybody know if maybe it's like a chiken dancer's feathers? They look simaler maybe a grass dancer forgot his feathers and put those in? If he won well people imitate champions. This is just a suggestion I bet people realy don't know. I'm sure somebody out there could give you a vague area of origin and time, but they haven't answered yet.

And steve we should write a book of these great stories and sell it, we'd make a fortune. Make a lot of people mad in the process but it seems everyones getting rich off of native culture but, the people who should be. Call me we'll get an agent, we'll be bigger than Harry potter.
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Old 07-30-2003, 01:06 PM   #24
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You know, around here that is illegal....
Ooooh I just got the Grass comment. Very funny, But you gotta remember the time period of course none of the facts line up so it's kinda hard to. But you can from the only date given 1830 so grass is legal. It was a sad time Hippies were running rampant with no one to control their smokeing.
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Some of uzz girlzz wuz jus wonderin how you all know so much about where an antenna comes from? RU from outer space??? Or yall from the TV tribe??
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Now I'm wondering how much of this is all made up?!?!?
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I know what they are for

These guys are just playing Barney.
We all know those antenna scopes are really "snaggen scanners" they let out electric signals down thru the guys brain; when a potential snag :serenade: comes within a certain feet they get hit with a bolt of electricity!

Isn't that right boys? :devil :31:
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New antenna hypothesis

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Or . . .

Pehaps a tipi creeper was out one night, doin' his usual rounds in a quiet and unscathed ndn camp.

Only this time he wound up with the "buckskin baby doll" of his dreams.

When he woke up . . . the camp had moved and all he had to show for his benevolent one night stand were . . .

bed bug bites.

Yup, that's right!

Bed bug bites.

All over his neck!

'even had his name spelled out, in ndn, for all to see! (She had talent). ;)

Well, he wasn't proud. So in honor of his glorious conquest (or was it "buckskn baby doll's" worse nightmare.)

I forget.

Anyway, I'm getting off the jixt of the story.

Well anyways. This tipi creeper put some antennas he found from an old discarted television laser disk - on his head - In honor of the "bed bug" that did all the damage on his neck!

Well . . . it could'a happened?
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WhoMe you just hit target on my past gf but she was a leech not just a bug I had to sckwash!
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Three pages of posts and no real answers or anything important said. Congratulations to all who have posted.:1Party:

We should start a thread for these great "origin stories" Only interesting made up stories. I think it would get pretty interesting.

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Three pages of posts and no real answers or anything important said. Congratulations to all who have posted.:1Party:

We should start a thread for these great "origin stories" Only interesting made up stories. I think it would get pretty interesting.
texas-grass-dancer tell us the real meaning behind the antennae.
Enlighten us all mighty great tx grass dancer :worthy:
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If I knew the answer wouldn't I post it. I don't know where they came from I was congratulating all who participated in this thread, including me. I mean we got no clear answers, I just found that humorous.

Does anyone out there actualy know the answer?
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Cool

You won't believe me when I tell you but the "antenna," are actually suppose to represent rabbit ears. The story goes there was a young choctaw boy living on the plains. He had just got the rights to the grass dance at the big jamboree in Texas, HEEEYYYYYY, Tex is this guy your relative?? Anyway, back to my story. The young choctaw grass dancer's spirit guide was "Harvey," Yes, the same Harvey that was Jimmy Stewart's spirit guide in whatever the name of that movie was. Remember, he was that 6 foot tall rabbit. Apparently, spirit guides can guide more than one person. I digress, on the plains the grass is really high, but you guys know that, and choctaws are really short people, ennit tex. Hey Tex, what is a 1/2 mile long and 3 feet high?? Choctaw grand entry. Anyway, when Harvey would come running through the grass to "guide" the young choctaw buck, all the buck could see was Harvey's big ol long ears kind of bobbing and bouncing over the tops of the grass and buck thought this looked pretty cool. Well the buck was practicing his new grass dance moves one day and got to thinking, what he could use for his roach that would look like rabbit ears, because they look cool with that waving grass and after all that is what the grass dance represents. The next day he sees Harvey running through the grass and he sets a snare and kills Harvey and chops off his ears and puts them on his roach. I know, I know, I never said those choctaws were the smartest people in the world. Well anyway, Buck puts the ears on his roach and begins to dance and they move beautiful. As the ears started to get cold and stiff so does Buck until he can't move anymore and turns to stone.

As luck would have it a band of Oh ma ha came up on Buck and see him. They weren't sure what had happen but they knew it was WAKAN. So in his memory and honor they made the antenna with plumes on they looked like rabbit ears like they seen on his roach. They also banished the rest of the choctaw's to hell. Well they couldn't send them to hell so they sent them to Miss, close enough I guess.

So the next time you see a grass dancer with his antenna's bobbing think of Harvey running through the grass and that poor Choctaw buck who whacked him.

Morale of the story. Don't be whacking your spirit guide, unless you look good in stone.
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What tribe was Jimmy Stewart?

Don't think I've heard that story maybe it's Ohmaha. But you know it is resonable, everyone copies the choctaw. j/k

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