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Old 02-12-2004, 01:28 PM   #1
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Faning or Whistling up a Drum?

I was always taught that when someone Fanned or whistled up a drum that all the Tradional Dancers line up in two lines to make a path from the Eagle staff, in the middle, to whatever drum is singing. No one was is allowed to enter the path either, just the dancers who fanned or whistle was allowed in that space. SO of course everyone stop going around and danced in whatever space they had. Another person said that only four people line up with the dancer who fanned or whistled up the drum. and the circle wasn't cut off. I ain't saying that either one is right or wrong but I was wondering what everyone else was taught?

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Old 02-12-2004, 02:42 PM   #2
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I've never herd of this. Can you explain about fanning or whistling up a drum somemore? This to me is very interesting, and i would like to learn more about this.
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i dont think any1 will answer u. 4 the same reason pictures and recording isnt allowed...

um... ask some1 from ur community and elder. they can better help u
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I was always taught that when someone Fanned or whistled up a drum that all the Tradional Dancers line up in two lines to make a path from the Eagle staff, in the middle, to whatever drum is singing. No one was is allowed to enter the path either, just the dancers who fanned or whistle was allowed in that space. SO of course everyone stop going around and danced in whatever space they had. Another person said that only four people line up with the dancer who fanned or whistled up the drum. and the circle wasn't cut off. I ain't saying that either one is right or wrong but I was wondering what everyone else was taught?

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This is new to me what a good topic.

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Old 02-12-2004, 08:52 PM   #5
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lol i didn't know that many people has never heard of this????
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Old 02-12-2004, 10:51 PM   #6
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I guess this doesn't go on down here in Texas that much.
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That suprises me that some of these mens trad. never "heard" of this too!!
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Well said and I agree with you. If some crazy person starts wavin' a fan or using a homemade whistle. Watch out. Those ways are real and have power when done right. To try it because it looks cool or saying "the spirit led me there" is wrong and be prepared. Some real powwow peeps might call you up to speak publicly about why you did what you did and a heavy fine could be laid on you (i.e. losin' your whole outfit).


that's all I'm gonna say about that.
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Old 02-13-2004, 09:17 AM   #9
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agreeing with singerdad and the rock

not something to take lightly personally i know a little about whistling a drum but would never do so because i don't understand the complexity thats involved.

i had a friend whistle up a drum once and he asked me to stand on the side and make sure people stayed out of his way(people have no respect in the east) he was a sun dancer though and had that right he was also the whipman and made prior arrangements with the arena director and mc and powwow committe even with all this he still made a nice donation for the powwow next year

there is alot involved

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what he said.....
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Old 02-13-2004, 10:35 AM   #11
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AS far as fanning up a drum goes i was taught that is you fan up a Southern Drum, the powwow is over and everyone goes home, or just that drum leaves....i don't know about Northern.

I have heard the same thing Tradish said. If you are a sun dancer, you have a pipe and a whistle. I forget how they told me excatly but thats basiclly what they said.

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Old 02-13-2004, 11:21 AM   #12
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lol hey don't bash it, it's just a southern thing. i get what you are saying about the whistle but as tradish said i have seen a sundancer use his whistle to whistle up the drum
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Old 02-13-2004, 11:24 AM   #13
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lol i really didn't mean everyone goes home, i have never seen this but i have seen drums leave. I guess if you only had one drum unless you got another one real quick everyone would go home
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thats what i said previously i don't know everything about it. i know he has his whistle cause he is a sun dancer but i am also fairly sure he is not a whistle carrier for like a designated community or family like i said i don't know everything.

but he did ask me to stand on the side right or wrong i was not about to say no
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Up here in the NW, there seems to be *ALOT* of drum whistling, fanning or charging. Chalk another one up to the "things-are-done-differently-from-place-to-place" cliche.
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Up here in the NW, there seems to be *ALOT* of drum whistling, fanning or charging. Chalk another one up to the "things-are-done-differently-from-place-to-place" cliche.

Quick Question: Charging is fanning, right? I have never heard of this term just curious?
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I have seen many different ways that a drum has been whistled but I have only seen an eagle Fan used when fanning.....I would be very upset if someone tried to fan up a drum with someother kind of fan. I would assume that all of you know that only an eagle fan can be used to fan up a drum?


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The powwow I was at this past weekend, there was a man from Montana that blew his whistle on a drum. Then when he stated his reason for doing so, he stated that he was happy cuz his home town ball team went to state or won state, (can't remember). Anyway, I was wondering if this was a frivolous reason for blowing a whistle, as it seems that the reasons would be more important or substantial than your hometown team winning a ball game. What I am wondering is: Was this a valid reason to blow a whistle or was it like "playing with it"?
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whistleing a drum

As my family and my husbands family was taught, when you whistle a drum it is done with the utmost respect for what you're doing as well as the drum you are given the honor too.

I did not see fanning of drums till we went out to California.
Not sure where that came from but each tribe, clan, place and ones' own traditions are different.

I would hope someone on this site would know of fanning and where it comes from. We have vast knowledge on this web site and to know of other traditions only makes us more knowledgeable.
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I have never heard of fanning, but yes here in northern AZ the drum does get whistled sometimes. But thats all I'm going to say you need to speak with an elder about this these thing are not to be discussed on the Internet.

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