[nbent]

Hey everyone, I was wondering what feathers would be best as a substitute for eagle feathers or hawk feathers on a bustle? Also I was wondering where I could get these feathers.

Thanks everyone!

[White Powwow Dancer]

Use Canada goose feathers they look like eagle here. friends that hunt goose and ask them for the feathers. Here is a picture.

[wardancer]

Originally Posted by White Powwow Dancer

Use Canada goose feathers they look like eagle here. friends that hunt goose and ask them for the feathers. Here is a picture.

Buh ! Please take a better pic of this goose feather bustle. Stretch it up better , even it up , take a new pic.....or quit posting it. It's dis-respectful to bustles everywhere !

[milehighsalute]

thats a chimayo rug used as a trailer on that.........was made nowhere near bustle-wearing tribes........yes that is a chimayo i recognize it anywhere as my family's hometown is chimayo

[White Powwow Dancer]

Originally Posted by wardancer

Buh ! Please take a better pic of this goose feather bustle. Stretch it up better , even it up , take a new pic.....or quit posting it. It's dis-respectful to bustles everywhere !

Here is a updated picture with feathers stretched out. Thanks wardancer for the info.

[wardancer]

Really ? It looks like the same pic , only closer. Send that to me for a few days and I'll send it back looking good ! Right now , it looks depressing ! Sorry , just how I see it !

The right side sets higher than the left , the distance between the feathers is way off (not uniform) , the uprights are bent ! How do the uprights get bent ? Mine are fiberglass rods , they don't bend. My others are copper tubing , they could bend , but it would take some serious effort !Some of the feathers need preened out.....Take pride in it. You want that to look good ! Really , I'm not trying to be mean , when you enter the dance arena , you should be proud , not just of yourself , but your outfit as well.

[Joe's Dad]

Originally Posted by White Powwow Dancer

Here is a updated picture with feathers stretched out. Thanks wardancer for the info.

Originally Posted by wardancer

Really ? It looks like the same pic , only closer. Send that to me for a few days and I'll send it back looking good ! Right now , it looks depressing ! Sorry , just how I see it !

The right side sets higher than the left , the distance between the feathers is way off (not uniform) , the uprights are bent ! How do the uprights get bent ? Mine are fiberglass rods , they don't bend. My others are copper tubing , they could bend , but it wound take some serious effort !Some of the feathers need preened out.....Take pride in it. You want that to look good ! Really , I'm not trying to be mean , when you enter the dance arena , you should be proud , not just of yourself , but your outfit as well.

Your extenders are too long for the amount of feathers. That bustle would look better if you had just used the length of the quill. You separators (the pony beads) would have looked better closer to the actual feather. That way the beads don't stand out as much. Space the holes in your backboard more equal. The left side should mirror the right side. Add a design to your center piece. It looks boy scout-ish plain like that.

Go outside, look up in the sky and find a bird flying. Now compare his left and right wings to your left and right wings. Your bird would plummet to the ground.

You are the one who makes the bird wings fly now.

Take pride.

[White Powwow Dancer]

chi migwetch wardancer and joe's dad for the info btw it would be very expensive to ship down to you I would ask a friend of my to help me out.i like my spikes bent out because would "dig" into my back very uncomfortable for me.

[wardancer]

Originally Posted by nbent

Hey everyone, I was wondering what feathers would be best as a substitute for eagle feathers or hawk feathers on a bustle? Also I was wondering where I could get these feathers.

Thanks everyone!

You can use goose , but they're small . Some use turkey , which are larger and the spanish blacks look O.K.Some of the imitations look good , but expensive.Just do a google search and see what comes up.

It also depends on what kind of bustle you build. A mess bustle would use a lot smaller feathers , while a big swing bustle or round bustle need larger feathers.

[wardancer]

Originally Posted by White Powwow Dancer

chi migwetch wardancer and joe's dad for the info btw it would be very expensive to ship down to you I would ask a friend of my to help me out.i like my spikes bent out because would "dig" into my back very uncomfortable for me.

Your spikes should never touch you. If they do , you're wearing it wrong ! LOL

That's o.k. too , right now I'm too busy to even think about working on it !

[Joe's Dad]

Originally Posted by White Powwow Dancer

chi migwetch wardancer and joe's dad for the info btw it would be very expensive to ship down to you I would ask a friend of my to help me out.i like my spikes bent out because would "dig" into my back very uncomfortable for me.

Originally Posted by wardancer

Your spikes should never touch you. If they do , you're wearing it wrong ! LOL

That's o.k. too , right now I'm too busy to even think about working on it !

I'm thinking the train guy is talking about where he ties off his bustle. You can get a small welding rod (3/32 - 5/32) start by bending it onto a 'V'. Drill two holes in your backboard. Bend the rod to so it lays flat on the side of your backboard next to your body. drill two holes in the backboard t the center of the 'V'and secure it with whatever you want (leather/sinew).

Free your mind and you a$$ will follow.

[wardancer]

Originally Posted by Joe's Dad

I'm thinking the train guy is talking about where he ties off his bustle. You can get a small welding rod (3/32 - 5/32) start by bending it onto a 'V'. Drill two holes in your backboard. Bend the rod to so it lays flat on the side of your backboard next to your body. drill two holes in the backboard t the center of the 'V'and secure it with whatever you want (leather/sinew).

Free your mind and you a$$ will follow.

Yeah , I know what he's talkin' about ! I stand by my statement: If they hit him in the back , he's wearin' it wrong !

[wardancer]

And I use #12 or #14 gauge wire. At least on the newer ones. Back when I learned how to build bustles , we made a solid backboard with permanent uprights. We use copper tubing cause we could bend it to the shape we wanted. They are covered with otter and attached with small bolts. And they still break down pretty easy , just not as easy as the newer style.

[milehighsalute]

and for petes sake get rid of the chimayo decorative rug as the trailer......put that thing back on the shelf under your knick-knacks where it belongs

it was woven in chimayo new mexico....i'm absolutely sure of it, i recognize it anywhere...... very likely by someone of indo-hispanic background......its a course wool that feels soft compared to navajo weavings.......i can tell just by design and fringe

very far from ojibwe-land...........makes no sense to put itg on there unless you are dancing at boyscout events

makes as much sense as using a navajo rug for a smokedance dress

[Joe's Dad]

Originally Posted by milehighsalute

and for petes sake get rid of the chimayo decorative rug as the trailer......put that thing back on the shelf under your knick-knacks where it belongs

it was woven in chimayo new mexico....i'm absolutely sure of it, i recognize it anywhere...... very likely by someone of indo-hispanic background......its a course wool that feels soft compared to navajo weavings.......i can tell just by design and fringe

very far from ojibwe-land...........makes no sense to put itg on there unless you are dancing at boyscout events

makes as much sense as using a navajo rug for a smokedance dress

What do you think he should wear instead?

[milehighsalute]

i dunno....but maybe he should make his own trailer and style after the northern bustle wearing tribes......so instead of weaving it would likely be made of tradecloth or gaberdine and more importantly styled after the bustle wearing tribe.....having a pueblo weaving as a trailer is tacky, especially when its a decorative mini rug

[Maslaq]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

[milehighsalute]

still looks cheesey with the pueblo style chimayo rug............but i digress........its a hobbyist bustle so there ya go