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Old 07-18-2007, 05:32 AM   #41
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I thought I would jump in here with a picture.
The top feather is a painted one from Sioux Specialties.
The bottom one is from Real Legal Feathers.
As you can see, they look pretty good from a distance but once you get within 2 feet, then you can see the brush marks where the dye was applied.
so is the top one stiff?

Which one is more accurate?
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:17 PM   #42
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The top feather is not stiff although, as others have said, the webbing of the feather doesn't go back together well if separated because of the coating of paint.

I like the looks and detail of the top feather but the brown color is not quite right. Looks a little "flat" and not as rich and saturated a color as it should be. The bottom feather has the right coloring but the overall look is a bit too perfect for my taste.

A fake will always look like a fake, no matter what. If I can't get the real thing, my preference is to use the best looking natural (legal) feathers that one can find. I like the Black Spanish or the all white turkey feathers. I've also seen a few rare peafowl hybrid feathers that look really nice but are hard to find in quantity and at a reasonable price.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:38 AM   #43
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see, i can get the feathers, but it's from family and technically not legal. so yeah. I was looking at a few alternatives. don't intend on waiting for the repository either.

any more pics woul be awesome!!


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Old 07-20-2007, 03:38 AM   #44
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see, i can get the feathers, but it's from family and technically not legal. so yeah. I was looking at a few alternatives. don't intend on waiting for the repository either.

any more pics woul be awesome!!


thanks so much everyone!
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Old 07-20-2007, 05:35 PM   #45
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thankyou very much for teh pictures. you're the best! rep!


anymore is greatly appreciated!
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:55 AM   #46
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I thought I would jump in here with a picture.
The top feather is a painted one from Sioux Specialties.
The bottom one is from Real Legal Feathers.
As you can see, they look pretty good from a distance but once you get within 2 feet, then you can see the brush marks where the dye was applied.
so...can you see the brush marks on both feathers??
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I haven't bought any of these feathers, yet. But I have spoken with the man who creates them (he's a N Trad dancer and Northern singer), and I have seen many of them up close and got to handle some as well.
The way I understand it is the man who creates these is a Chemical Engineer for DOW or another company like that. He has worked out a process that stains the feathers, without painting them. The feathers don't get the hard, 'can't go back together' problem that painted feathers have. You can separate the vanes and re-connect them just like a natural feather. In fact on at least two occassions the validity of these feathers has been questioned by inspectors and the staining had to be pointed out by others around at the time.
I like them, and if I could afford painted or stained feathers, I'd much prefer these feathers to painted ones.
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:38 PM   #48
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The brush strokes on the bottom feather are only seen on the small brown speckles. They have a "feathery" (sorry) look to them, like you get when one color bleeds onto another.

The painted feather looks to me like it was airbrushed which is the only way to get the very fine mist of speckles and gradations of color density.

If there was a way to combine the detail of the top feather with the staining technique of the lower feather, that would be the coolest thing. And it would keep all the wildlife officers really busy, lol...
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hahaha, that's funny.

So how is there a way to tell wildlife officials they're wrong and it's dyed?
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the best way would have them look at the shaft a eagle has a solid round shaft where a turkey feather which most fake ones are made with have a flat side on the back
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I ordered a bustle from them last fall. He had it to me in 4 weeks and its great! I danced with it a few times now and the feathers still look perfect. And as stated, you can really only tell their not real eagle from closer than a few feet.
Nice looking bustle. I still would not use these on my own outfits, but they might be an alternative for items that other people want me to make.
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hmmm...

..im debating wether or not i should mix fake with real. I have a lot of real feathers without paperwork (family feathers).
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Sorry it took so long. The centerpiece was made to match by the guy and he does it in the colors you ask but it does cost more. Hope these help.
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Sorry i thought it posted my pics but it seems i can't get them to load
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hiya redthunder...just pic of tail...
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hiya redthunder...just pic of tail...
where's the tail from?
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I know of only one man who tied the tail togther like this, but this pic was flyin LOL around on the internet. hehehe
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LOL...what? i didn't understand that...haha...



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