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Old 09-24-2004, 12:55 PM   #1
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Question Brain Tanned Hides

Hey all!
Can anyone recomend a good place to get brain tanned hides at a fair price? Needing them for a new dress:)

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Old 09-29-2004, 11:06 PM   #2
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You want deer, elk or moose?

Because of the cost of braintan, it is preferable to be able to inspect your hides in person before buying so you get the right weight and shape for your needs. Plus, quality is so variable an is hard to ascertain over a distance. But if you really have to do it this way, I recommend Larry Belitz of South Dakota 605-745-3902. He has deer and elk hides. I have gotten hides from him and they are really nice. Just tell him what you will use it for so he can select the best hides for your project. Last time I knew, his large white deer hides were about $130 each, more for smoked.
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Thanks for the recomendation:)
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Brain TAnned hides

I am a brain tanner. I do demonstrations on traditional tanning techniques and primitive skills at many powwows, mostly in PA. There are many out there who claim to make nice buckskin, but please be aware. Ther stuff is junk.

With that said, Matt Richards (www.braintan.com) braintans over 200 hides a year. He is likely the most well known and repected tanner in the country. His hides are top quality and he is a great guy. A Canadian named Billy Metcalf also does over 200 hides and has excellent hides. Doing 200 hides a year is huge work. I do around 30.

There are some companies that are claiming to have braintanned hides, but are really chemically tanned hides with wood smoke added. Matt's are no such thing.

Good luck,
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CWD and braintanning

Anyone have any real info on the effects of Chronic Wasting Disease on the brain tanning porcess? I wonder if there is an effect at all?

So far, all anyone I've talked to can say is "We'll have to get back to you on that."

Appreciate any links or sources.
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CWD and braintanning

There has been a lot of discussion in the forum at www.braintan.com about CWD.

I can't see how you could get this if you do not digest the brains. I use gloves through most all of the process. Some people boil the brains in water to kill all bacteria. I do not. The only time my hands are not covered is when I am softening the hides. Be very carefull of infections if you tan without gloves. It travels VERY fast. I had an infection run from a needle hole to my armpits in less than 24 hours. If there are red streaks running up your hand and arm, get to the doctors. This is more of a problem with wetscarping and not dryscraping.

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Anyone have any real info on the effects of Chronic Wasting Disease on the brain tanning porcess? I wonder if there is an effect at all?

So far, all anyone I've talked to can say is "We'll have to get back to you on that."

Appreciate any links or sources.
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Talking CWD links

An excelent synopsis can be found at:
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/madcow...s/9911398.html

A historical synopsis and urge to action is at:
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/doc...emc-000001.txt

There are several informative sources easily found on the web with a google search using key words. It appears that it would be wise to be cautious and use safety precautions when handling brain and probably to refrain from consuming any form of brain, and from using any parts of animals which are obviously infected animals.

The following link is to the UK department of health link to pdfs discussing minimum safety and handling precautions.
http://crawl04.archive.org/ukgov/200...ance/index.htm

Doing brain tan: at a minimum be smart enought to wear rubber gloves; dispose of the waste with care not to contaminate your water sources or your domestic lifestock areas. If wildlife in your area is known to be infected consider using domestic animal brain

I found the Ohio Wildlife site which reported no evidence of CWD found in Ohio as recently as winter 2003 however in a discussion with our local wildlife officer he reported serious and widespread evidence of it in the state as of Fall 2004.

Strongly encourage anyone intending to do brain tan, or taxidermy to do research on this issue. There is good reason to believe that CWD and varients are related to an anticipated, impending epidemic. This is all a bummer fore me. Like many of you I have been interested in brain tanning for years but have only tried my hand at it a few times. All this news gives me reason to think twice about doing more.
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http://www.mad-cow.org/
cjdfoudation.com

This link provides basic safety rules for hunters handling game and links to information on CWD update news in each state.
http://www.cwd-info.org/index.php/fu...ns.precautions
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My bad, allow me to clarify - I was wondering about the chemical proces sitself, not saftey procedures.

Thanks for the links though ;)
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K....no reason to believe it effects the tanning process or results....only the heatlh risk to persons invovled. Nobody knows for certain what the causitive agent is.

There remains significant debate and uncertainty as to whether or not the disease is caused by an unknown virus or some sort of protein. Either way it seems next to impossible to kill in the lab so don't imagine boiling the brain will do any good. Work safe.
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we produce and sell brain tanned deer hides go to website and there are some pics at demonstrations we do and get ahold of us the next session of tanning is starting in the spring
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You do not have to use brains for tanning. Egg yokes can be used with great success. Pork brains are another alternative if deer brains cannot be found or used.
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