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Old 03-08-2002, 05:40 AM   #1
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What about????

What about Jingle Cones? Am I allowed to put these on my dress? And Medicine Wheels? Horse Hair hanging from the shoulders???

Since I am Cherokee, I know they don't have buckskin. Would I be allowed to make it like that?With those items on my dress with out truely offending a lot of people?
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Old 03-08-2002, 11:19 AM   #2
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Personally, I'd pass on the horsehair tassles. I've seen to many wannabe/Rendezvous dresses decorated with those. I see nothing wrong with doing some simple beadwork strips on your yoke. If you could encorporate something Cherokee or something pesonal to you, the better. I'd also shy away from the tin cones or you might get mistaken for an Apache lady. The few Cherokee buckskin dresses I've seen have been fairly plain. Other Cherokee dancers got permission to wear the traditional dress of some Plains tribe.

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Thank you very much! That helped me a ton!
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Old 03-08-2002, 01:11 PM   #4
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If you are planning on a Southern Plains buckskin dress, the side tabs have a couple of rows of the tin cones (about 1" in size or smaller). You didn't say where you thought you'd put them. I also agree, leave off the horse hair drops. If it's southern plains, rosettes and lane work are used.
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Old 03-08-2002, 02:51 PM   #5
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Did you mean jingles like on a jingle dress or the 1" cones of aluminum, tin or brass? Jingle dress jingles, No...cones sure.
Like Beaded Pony said, put a bunch of them on the tabs on the sides of your hem fringe. (If, of course you are talking about a Southern Dress) In rows, one row under the other!
The tin ones will get black and mark your dress eventually, but the aluminum ones don't have the right sound. If you can get someone to roll you some German Silver ones they are the best. Best sound and they've got the weight.
I disagree about horsehair. A lot of Southern Plains dresses have horsehair accents, because of the long history of horsemanship.
But not too many and not too thick. Just for accents in a couple of places. Maybe on each side of the top row of skirt beadwork, attached with a buckskin string and stuck inside a cone. Maybe on the top off to the sides where your sleeves fold in the same manor...but don't overdo it. It may look hobbyish.
Medicine wheels..only if it's a Northern dress and you are Northern and that is your tribe's thing! Even then, I would bead pictures of Medicine Wheels or incorporate the quills into your beadwork. Don't hang them!!! You can use one to anchor a feather drop in your hair...but only do if it means something to your tribe.
Again, that's just my opinion!
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Old 03-12-2002, 01:46 AM   #6
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Where would I find the German Silver Cones?
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You'd have to make your own cones. Cut out narrow trapezoid shapes and wrap them around a needlenose pliers. Crazy Crow Trading Post and similar suppliers carry german silver as sheet metal pieces. Not sure what gauge or thickness you would use. The thinnest one would be my guess.
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I think anything you can do to your regalia; to make it more appealing shows your true artistic abilities. I am not too worried about using bits of pieces from other tribes, or from our brothers and sisters from different parts of the land. I feel that this shows how we a the first people are together as one and can share with one another. If you are only going to be at Traditional pow-wow, then maybe staying with your tribes style is good. Yet if your competing, you should be able to do as you please, this style of pow-wow is already commercialized. So all in all, I like to think, its how you want it to look and how you feel waring it.

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Talking cherokee buckskin

Osiyo to y'all,
This is my first post, as I just found this site tonight.
As for the question of the Cherokee buckskin dresses, they were a one-piece style that was similar to what the cloth T- style dress is like. The sleeves were short, not going below the elbow. If you want to increase your comfort level, leave the underside of the dress open so that air can circulate through the dress. I've joked for over a decade that this is known as "Indian air-conditioning."
Anyway, at about 3 to 4 inches below the knee is a band of fur that goes all of the way around the dress, with fringe below this. I saw where one lady used what looked like feathers in the place of fur. I'm not sure if it makes much difference.
You will need a fairly wide belt for your waist, and I was told that it gets tied on the right side. The moccasins are also distinct to the region and complete the total look.
Hope that this helps.
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YES! I would love to see some pictures of your completed dress..if that's possible? I'm sure it will turn out well. :)
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