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WhoMe 01-22-2004 02:33 PM

9-11 is NOT the worse act of Terrorism on American Soil
 
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It is real popular to justify American troops in Iraq and Afganistan by saying their military presence is stopping the spread of terrorism. But, history is actually repeating itself with the same sensationalism that spawned the early American newpapers.

I am kind of fed up over the propaganda:

"THE ACTS THAT OCCURED DURING 9-11 ARE THE WORSE ACTS OF TERRORISM TO EVER OCCUR ON AMERICAN SOIL."

Don't get me wrong.

My heart goes out to the dead, their families and those who's lives are forever affected by the 9-11 events.

But,

how come America has never acknowledged the "AMERICAN HOLOCOST" where millions of Indian people were murdered in this country by terrorists??????

This IS "THE WORSE ACT OF TERROSISM TO OCCUR ON AMERICAN SOIL!" because it's millions vs. thousands - or are Indian people's lives not as valuable as other Americans?

Depending on the source, there was an estimated 10 to 40 million inhabitants living in North America at the time of European contact.

By 1900, the population of combined Indian, First Nations and Alaska Native peoples was less than 250 thousand, leaving whole tribes and cultures (too numerous to list) EXTINCT!

How did they die?

Millions of them died by "Institutionalized Genocide," which included "calculated murder by both European and American Governments." The intentional spread of diseased blankets to be traded to Indian nations did the most devastation. These blankets were then traded further and further into the heart of Indian country. In them were the foreign diseases small pox, measles, typhoid, cholera, diphtheria, TB and VD.

But then lets not forget the uncalculable incidents where indigenous peoples were killed for sport or for their property. Isn't this terrorism?
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What do YOU think?

Homalosa 01-22-2004 02:45 PM

What do I think? Well, my mom Comchocldy just ordered us some cool shirts with Geronimo and his men bearing arms. The caption reads: Fighting terrorism since 1492.

'nuff said?

The United States has a short memory. She only remembers when she's the victim and not the perpetrator.

PS, wonder if I'll get in trouble wearing my shirt on casual Friday!!! Okay, I won't because school teachers are supposed to be apolitical. Yeah, right.

quicksilverwade 01-22-2004 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Homalosa
What do I think? Well, my mom Comchocldy just ordered us some cool shirts with Geronimo and his men bearing arms. The caption reads: Fighting terrorism since 1492.

'nuff said?

The United States has a short memory. She only remembers when she's the victim and not the perpetrator.

PS, wonder if I'll get in trouble wearing my shirt on casual Friday!!! Okay, I won't because school teachers are supposed to be apolitical. Yeah, right.

Homalosa, You always seem to come out with the right saying that hits the target.

Homalosa 01-22-2004 08:44 PM

Well thank ya!:Wave

[email protected] 01-22-2004 08:55 PM

homalose or whatever your name is y dont u jus shut up yes 911 is the worst terrorism attack on american soil i always read your post u always got some negative shyt to say y dont u jus shut up 4 once oh if your planning on replying to this post i jus put then do it cause i wont read it....''lol

eyesrbrown4areason 01-22-2004 09:00 PM

Homalosa how do I get one of those shirts??

quicksilverwade 01-22-2004 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ~>CARAMEL*APPLE<~
homalose or whatever your name is y dont u jus shut up yes 911 is the worst terrorism attack on american soil i always read your post u always got some negative shyt to say y dont u jus shut up 4 once oh if your planning on replying to this post i jus put then do it cause i wont read it....''lol
Testy person here don't you think Homalosa? But with the lol ending maybe she's just looking for laughs. And not once have I come across any negativity from Homalosa. Most likely, I've been the culprit with the negative comments but either way Homalosa, I'll stick by your side because you're like family.

eyesrbrown4areason 01-22-2004 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by quicksilverwade
Testy person here don't you think Homalosa? But with the lol ending maybe she's just looking for laughs. And not once have I come across any negativity from Homalosa. Most likely, I've been the culprit with the negative comments but either way Homalosa, I'll stick by your side because you're like family.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Homalosa 01-22-2004 10:15 PM

Testy she is and in need of some history lessons. I'll never say 9/11 wasn't horrific. My mom is a United flight attendant and lost friends on both those planes. She flew the DC route the month before and was a phone call from flying it that morning. But the fact of the matter is we are here in the US and not tribal boundaries because someone thought it was their MANIFEST DESTINY to conquer Turtle Island. Perhaps Carmel Apple has never read Custer and Jackson's belief "the only good Indian is a dead one."

The fact of the matter is, that my African ancestors are here because the US thought we were only good for picking cotton.

But anway, no worries.

Oh, and looking for a link to the tee shirt site.

Homalosa 01-22-2004 10:21 PM

Here's a link for the shirt:
http://www.tribalsovereigntees.com/

eyesrbrown4areason 01-22-2004 10:42 PM

thanks Homalosa :)

comchocldy 01-22-2004 10:51 PM

9/11
 
My 2 cents

My whole take is a little bit different, I flew flight 175 during the month of August and knew 6 of the attendants and 1 of the pilots.

There were numerous warnings both from french intelligence, the FBI, the CIA and plane and ordinary airline people like me. There was more than 1 report of wierd behavior by male passengers that were totally ignored.

Even the actor James Woods who flies Lax to Boston (his home) on a regular basis made a report along with other flight attendants from flight 175. The FAA said thank you very much and did no follow-up until 9/12! Put all these red flags together....in my personal opinion.....they let it happen. I really don't believe they realized it would be quite as devastating...but they KNEW something was going to happen. The historical records show they knew Pearl Harbor was going to happen and they let it.. to justify droping the A bomb in Japan. Is too far fectched to think they use the same tactic?

Since 9/11 there have been military escorts of commercial aircraft...who are prepared to shoot us down and we know that.
Since 9/11 young white people get paid $30,000 per year plus benefits as TSA security for what young Latinos, Blacks and others received $8.00 an hour & no benefits to do.
Since 9/11 Sky Marshals get $70,000 to ride in style, if a flight attendant is taking hostage.. their instructions are ..shoot the flight attendant and we know that.
Since 9/11 nothing much else has changed except everybody in government is making money off it.

The fact that most americans are so self consumed and selfish they don't know what's going on around them still makes us the most vunerable country in the world.

CC

One Hot Mama 01-22-2004 10:55 PM

I wore my "Homeland Security" t-shirt to work for casual Friday last year and while the other case managers thought it was great, administration didn't think so, said it was "incinderary" and "racist", so the next casual Friday I wore my "Fighting Whites" t-shirt. Oh, and I still have my job can you believe?

ndn_butterfly 01-23-2004 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by Homalosa
The United States has a short memory. She only remembers when she's the victim and not the perpetrator.

:clap: Well said! I have to agree with everyone and their posts here. Yes 9/11 was NOT the worst act of terrorism on american soil.
However I do NOT Agree with this post stated below

Quote:

homalose or whatever your name is y dont u jus shut up yes 911 is the worst terrorism attack on american soil i always read your post u always got some negative shyt to say y dont u jus shut up 4 once oh if your planning on replying to this post i jus put then do it cause i wont read it....''lol
First of all, Homalosa's post was nothing near being negative, in fact it was somewhat enlightening. If you do believe that 9/11 was the most atrocious attack on american soil, then believe what you will. You're equipped with nothing but an assimilated mindset. First Nations people throughout Turtle Island have been fighting against such vehement negative actions and scurrility since European contact. If you can not understand that, then what is the point of you reading Native News and Issues if you can not do such a thing with a more open mind, and more so, if you can not easily comprehend what is being stated. I suggest you do some reading on the REAL history of Turtle Island, not the chocolate covered bullsh*t they feed you in texts written by non-native peoples :36:

Just my 2 cents:p

eyesrbrown4areason 01-23-2004 09:45 AM

very well said Butterfly! ;)

is it just me, or when some people post their neg. b.s., they hide behind an alias to do it??:confused: ;)

Jibbyâ„¢ 01-23-2004 10:58 AM

Some people's kids I tell ya. Well, since I am not one to sugar coat my response--here goes...

Caramel apple. Have you ever heard the quote "It's better to remain silent and allow people to believe you are an idiot than to open your mouth and prove them right?". Well, you have without a doubt, confirmed this theory.

For someone to come up in here and insult a women of great intelligence is nothing but a two bit hater. If you weren't so ignorant and, I am sure it's safe to say, uneducated you would have appreciated her words of wisdom instead of acting a fool and reminding everyone how idiotic people could be.

Considering the difference in intellectual levels between Homes and Apps, I would advise the latter, in terms of hierarchy, she should be on her hands on kness bowing down to Homes--thanking her for blessing her life with some unbiased knowledge that is damn hard to come by these days.

AlmostThere 01-23-2004 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Homalosa
What do I think? Well, my mom Comchocldy just ordered us some cool shirts with Geronimo and his men bearing arms. The caption reads: Fighting terrorism since 1492.

OUR grandfathers have fighting terrorism Since 1492 not to include my nations history of 1640 of settlements in indain country. So when the whites have a problem with 9/11 yes i feel for them. Many natives passed on that day and thats the only reason i feel for them. They have an idea of what it felt to be scared, the feeling that our grandparents felt. BUt i dont think that they( white society ) will understand. So yes there has been worse terroism on "American soil" in my view, thats when they first arrived and tired to kill off our traditions and beliefs as Native people. They tired but did not succeed.

ndn_butterfly 01-23-2004 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by eyesrbrown4areason
is it just me, or when some people post their neg. b.s., they hide behind an alias to do it??:confused: ;)
Those are the scared lil brats who are afraid of challenges;)

Homalosa 01-23-2004 01:28 PM

I just wanted to say thank you to Quicksilverwade, Jibby,Eyes, Ndnbutterfly and of course my mom. Mom taught me long ago to never let ignorance hurt me. Still one can't help but feel good when folks say such nice things about you. I don't know what's going on here on pws.com. There's some folks who seem to want to get a rise out of us by attacking folks. We don't let that stop us though. Let's continue to spread our knowledge!

chirapachegurl 01-23-2004 02:02 PM

I think that if Homalosa was always being negative somebody would've chewed her out a LONG TIME AGO and she wouldn't have 707 posts. Go figure :dontknow: But we all know what was the worst act of terrorism, and it's just the white eyes that don't want to see the truth, just their own pity. Why? Because they are selfish and only want people to see the bad things that happen to them. Don't get me wrong in any way, I don't believe that anyone has the right to take someone else's life away, But why is it that elementary schools only teach us about the genocides in Europe, and Anti-Semitism, and the horrendous things that happened to the Jews? Why is that the only sad thing that anyone could ever do to another group of people? Why is it not for what happened on this Island, what happened on this soil? A couple of weeks ago there were some white people talking about the Holocaust in Europe, how sad it was, the long march in the cold weather, and how many people died. Why don't they talk about the Trail of Tears, or any of those long walks that our people had to do, leaving our own land to go to another that we weren't meant for? Why don't they talk about how the troops would hit our elders in the face with the butt of a gun if they fell, or just left them there to die alone and if someone tried to help they would be beaten? So many questions that I have but can all this be summarized into just one answer? I think we all know it.


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