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Old 07-16-2015, 11:28 AM   #1
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Bannished From Fort Peck?

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Nathan Chasing Horse / Nathan Lee Chasing His Horse / Nathan Chases His Horse

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To: Fort Peck Tribal Council Members Monday July 6,2015
Fr: Concerned Tribal Members Presented at Education Committee
Re: Banishment of Nathan Chasing Horse

A community meeting was held by Enrolled members of Fort Peck Tribes, your constituents who have a serious safety concern to address a problem with Nathan Chasing Horse and his following that has excluded and intimidated some of our Fort Peck Elders and community members from attending a Sundance in Chelsea for the last couple of years. This issue has come up in the Tribal Chambers in the past.

The community meeting was held on Thursday, July 2015 in Poplar by concerned Fort Peck Tribal Members to discuss banishment for his numerous accounts of Spiritual misuse and behavioral misconduct. He and his followers are a threat and danger to our tribal members and tribal communities.

For the past 15 years, he has been visiting our reservation and conducting ceremonies. He verbalizes he has respect for all women and children, yet his personal behavior does not correlate with his supposedly Spiritual actions. The Sundancers that come to participate at Chelsea are 80 to 90% out of state. We do not know what they are bringing onto our reservation.

There are documented cases in the US and Canada of his behavioral conduct, and by two accounts he has pursued minor girls from Fort Peck with his intentions to groom these minors which is a behavior pattern of a perpetrator. He was investigated by Criminal Investigator (CI) Trottier. A minimum of two Fort Peck families where the girls were minors, at that time they were under 18 years of age and were affected and traumatized by him.

Throughout Indian Country his reputation includes allegations of drug trafficking, physical abuse, sexual abuse, spiritual abuse, coercion and fraud. His group was asked to leave and not return in Pinion, Arizona where they conducted a Sundance for several years. His negative reputation and behavior precedes him.

His controlling and "cult like" tactics keep many in fear from leaving the "circle", or "family". We have a few individuals who we would encourage to share their personal stories on how they were affected, if they choose to. He continues to Spiritually Abuse those who refuse to follow his commands, with intimidation and threats to the individual and scare tactics of death.

There are standing allegations that drugs are being brought onto our reservation by his "circle" and possibly some of our own community members involved with him. Along with the drugs there are also weapons that were witnessed by some of our community members on the Chelsea Sundance grounds in the previous years.

This person is a dangerous threat to our reservation and community members. Please take into serious consideration the Fort Peck Comprehensive Code of Justice (CCOJ) Code Grounds for Exclusion: "Any person may be excluded from the Reservation for: (a) Conduct which substantially threatens the life, the physical health or the safety of an Indian or Indians residing on the reservation."

This misconduct is enough to execute grounds to exclusion/banishment from our reservation boundaries in protection of our Women, Children and Land. Thank you, Concerned Tribal Members
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Thanks Uncle Joe! You're gonna get ME banned


Where were the incidents, if any? Victims? Witnesses? Evidence?

Which jurisdiction would handle any charges, if any?

So far...NOTHING OFFICIAL.


If any person is AFRAID to report to the Authorities, that does not solve

anything. If a cultural norm against being a "Snitch" is holding a person

back, that will only create more Victims, not solve anything.


And, if this is all just GOSSIP, JEALOUSY, ENVY.....Won't Solve Anything, just

causes More Gossip.

Time for Everybody to Lay Down Their Cards...
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Well......there's smoke everywhere ! Must be a fire somewhere ! Hmmmm.....

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those darn jealous gossiping ndns over in lakota country



google nathan chasing horse. he not smiling alot these days.
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google nathan chasing horse. he not smiling alot these days.
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June 16, 2005 11:00 pm

n Nathan Chasing Horse, also known as Nathan Chasing His Horse, 29, South El Monte, Calif., was sentenced by U. S. District Judge Karen Schreier to two years probation for failure to pay legal child support obligations.

According to a news release from the U.S. Attorney's Office, Chasing Horse failed to pay child support between February 2003 and March 2005 as ordered by the 7th Judicial Circuit Court in Rapid City. Chasing Horse pleaded guilty.
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I read through, there is talk about basic elements of criminal behavior, but the

jurisdiction of most of the accusations is unclear, while the statute of limitations has not passed.

All it takes is one person going to the District Attorney Office, or Prosecutor where each offense

took place, yet.....why has this not been done, if the facts can be substantiated?

Once the victim is transported across state lines, that takes it to an even higher level....

To hold ANYBODY accountable for their actions, the accusers also must be accountable, and step up.

Let Due Process take it's course.
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So , what about Bill Cosby ???

I'm not convicting.....just sayin' you don't have to look very hard for stuff to show up !

Larry Sellers(AKA:Cloud Dancing from "Dr.Quinn Medicine Woman" ) is pretty much the same. Lot's of stories , a few accusations , a child support conviction , a substantial "non-ndn" following , dubious authenticity !


Maybe it's a Hollywood thing......
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Thanks Uncle Joe! You're gonna get ME banned


Where were the incidents, if any? Victims? Witnesses? Evidence?

Which jurisdiction would handle any charges, if any?

So far...NOTHING OFFICIAL.


If any person is AFRAID to report to the Authorities, that does not solve

anything. If a cultural norm against being a "Snitch" is holding a person

back, that will only create more Victims, not solve anything.


And, if this is all just GOSSIP, JEALOUSY, ENVY.....Won't Solve Anything, just

causes More Gossip.

Time for Everybody to Lay Down Their Cards...
Laying down cards is good, but when it comes to these matters I don't think fear is always the main factor when there is hesitation to involve the authorities.

If this fool was messing with my daughter, he would go missing and never be found.
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So , what about Bill Cosby ???

I'm not convicting.....just sayin' you don't have to look very hard for stuff to show up !

Larry Sellers(AKA:Cloud Dancing from "Dr.Quinn Medicine Woman" ) is pretty much the same. Lot's of stories , a few accusations , a child support conviction , a substantial "non-ndn" following , dubious authenticity !


Maybe it's a Hollywood thing......
all i know is..i will never look at a jello-pudding pop the same way

I used to like dem things dammit.
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all i know is..i will never look at a jello-pudding pop the same way

I used to like dem things dammit.
And in the immoral words of Bill Clinton :"I did not have sex with that woman !"
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And in the immoral words of Bill Clinton :"I did not have sex with that woman !"
Not cool!! I was at a party and he handed me a drink dammit!
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When the Cosby stuff started people were like "oh no, not him", and defended him. Now, a couple of years later, and you have his own words saying he bought drugs so he could have sex with women. I am a pretty firm believer that where there is smoke, something is smoldering, and eventually, it's going to light up the sky. I think it could very well be just a matter of time before the same thing happens to this guy. Edited to add: It may not be fear that's preventing people from coming forward, it may be the fact that they are worried they won't be believed-as in the case of a lot of Cosby's victims when asked why they didn't come forward years ago, when it happened.
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When the Cosby stuff started people were like "oh no, not him", and defended him. Now, a couple of years later, and you have his own words saying he bought drugs so he could have sex with women. I am a pretty firm believer that where there is smoke, something is smoldering, and eventually, it's going to light up the sky. I think it could very well be just a matter of time before the same thing happens to this guy. Edited to add: It may not be fear that's preventing people from coming forward, it may be the fact that they are worried they won't be believed-as in the case of a lot of Cosby's victims when asked why they didn't come forward years ago, when it happened.

Irregardless of the situation , the court of public opinion has already tried , convicted , and vilified Mr. Cosby.They've ruined his reputation , his past , present and future income , threatened to take away all his awards , and remove him from history ! All without an "official" conviction. Not defending him....there's smoke. I hope no one finds out Washington or Lincoln ever did anything wrong , I'd hate for all of history to be re-written !

Back on track , Mr. Chasing Horse professes to be a holy-man. One in that position should be above all of these types of accusations.....if he's not , he shouldn't be in that position. With that said , those that mess around with "ndn medicine" and don't have that right or permissions , generally don't last long. And the last time I saw Mr. Sellers , he was walking with a walker and was having serious health issues.
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Irregardless of the situation , the court of public opinion has already tried , convicted , and vilified Mr. Cosby.They've ruined his reputation , his past , present and future income , threatened to take away all his awards , and remove him from history ! All without an "official" conviction. Not defending him....there's smoke. I hope no one finds out Washington or Lincoln ever did anything wrong , I'd hate for all of history to be re-written !

Back on track , Mr. Chasing Horse professes to be a holy-man. One in that position should be above all of these types of accusations.....if he's not , he shouldn't be in that position. With that said , those that mess around with "ndn medicine" and don't have that right or permissions , generally don't last long. And the last time I saw Mr. Sellers , he was walking with a walker and was having serious health issues.
I think in the beginning of the Cosby stuff, people were inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt-until he mentioned getting the 'ludes.

As for Chasing Horse, I agree. When you profess to be a holy man, you should conduct yourself with behavior that is beyond reproach. Maybe this is karma's way of dealing with him.
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Bill Cosby has many credible victims coming out on TV interviews, some represented by attorney Gloria Allred. The investigative reporters are chasing down the backgrounds, and corroborating the details claimed by these women.

Legally, the statute of limitations has passed, though Bill can be sued civilly in a court that does not require guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


Bill "Slick Willy" Clinton...we all heard about his wild side before he first became president, how his state troopers were in on his dealings.

The infamous Blue Dress...but today he charges speaking fees into the Millions


Kobe Bryant in Denver hotel where he was waiting before a knee surgery:


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WARREN JEFFS

Warren Steed Jeffs (born December 3, 1955) is a former president of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS Church) and convicted felon currently serving a sentence of life plus 20 years.[4] His prison term is the result of being convicted of two felony counts of child sexual assault in 2011.[5]

Jeffs gained international notoriety in May 2006 when he was placed on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted List for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution on Utah state charges related to his alleged arrangement of illegal marriages between his adult male followers and underage girls. He was arrested in August 2006 in Nevada, and agreed to be taken to Utah for trial. In May and July 2007, Arizona charged him with eight additional counts in two separate cases, including incest and sexual conduct with minors.[6]

Beginning in early September 2007 in St. George, Jeffs' Utah trial lasted less than a month, and on September 25 he was convicted of two counts of rape as an accomplice.[7] On November 20, 2007, Jeffs was sentenced to imprisonment for 10 years to life and began serving his sentence at the Utah State Prison. The conviction, however, was overturned by the Utah Supreme Court on July 27, 2010, due to incorrect jury instructions.[8]

Jeffs was extradited by Utah to Texas, where he was found guilty of sexual assault and aggravated sexual assault of children in connection with a raid of the FLDS Church's YFZ Ranch in 2008.[9] After the jury had deliberated for less than 30 minutes, Jeffs was sentenced to life in prison plus 20 years, to be served consecutively, and a $10,000 fine for sexual assault of both 12- and 15-year-old girls.[10]



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Tony Alamo - Headed a Santa Clarita commune. Convicted of tax evasion in 1994 and then resided in a halfway house in Texarkana.[1] In 2009, he was convicted of ten federal counts of taking minors across state lines for sex, and sentenced to 150 years in federal prison.[2]

Shoko Asahara - Founder of Aum Shinrikyo sentenced to death by hanging under Japanese law for involvement in the 1995 Sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway.[3]

Wayne Bent (aka: Michael Travesser) - Founder of Lord Our Righteousness Church, sometimes called Strong City. Was convicted of one count of criminal sexual contact of a minor and two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor in 2008.[4] Was sentenced to 18 years with eight years suspended.[5]

Graham Capill - former leader of Christian Heritage New Zealand. Sentenced to nine-year imprisonment term in 2005 after multiple charges of child sexual abuse against girls younger than twelve.[6
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Matthew F. Hale - Former leader of Creativity Movement sentenced to a 40-year prison term for soliciting an undercover FBI informant to kill a federal judge.[7]

Warren Jeffs - Once President of Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (a polygamist Mormon sect), convicted of rape as an accomplice (overturned in 2010). Jeffs also awaits trial in other states and in the federal court system.[8]

Jung Myung Seok - South Korean religious sect leader and founder of Providence. Convicted for raping several of his followers.[9]

William Kamm - An Australian religious sect leader and self-styled Pope Peter II who was sentenced to prison in October 2005 for a string of sexual attacks on a 15-year-old girl. In August 2007 his sentence was increased after being found guilty for a series of sexual abuses against another teenage girl over a five-year period.[10]

Ervil LeBaron - Led a small sect of polygamous Mormon fundamentalists, and was convicted of involvement in the murder of two people and plotting to kill another person in 1981.[11]

Alice Lenshina - Zambian head and founder of the Lumpa Church. Conflicts with the government over the sect's rejection of taxes led to a violent confrontation and her subsequent imprisonment.[12]

Jeffrey Lundgren - Headed splinter group from Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, executed October 24, 2006, for multiple murders.[13]

Charles Manson - Leader of the Manson Family who is serving life for first degree murder.[14]

Shukri Mustafa - Egyptian leader of Takfir wal-Hijra who was captured and executed for the kidnap murder of an Egyptian ex-government minister.[15]

Fred Phelps - Leader of anti-gay Westboro Baptist Church. Convicted for disorderly conduct and battery.[16][17]

Swami Premananda of Tiruchirapalli - Indian religious leader convicted and sentenced to two life sentences for the rape of 13 girls and murder in 2005.[18]

Theodore Rinaldo - Leader of a religious group in Snohomish, Washington
convicted of third-degree statutory rape for having sexual intercourse with one minor girl and of taking indecent liberties with another.[19]

Paul Schäfer - Former head of Chile-based Colonia Dignidad, was convicted of sexually abusing 25 children.[20]

Roch Thériault - Former head of "Ant Hill Kids commune" served a life sentence in Canada for the murder of Solange Boislard.[21]

Yahweh Ben Yahweh - Head of Nation of Yahweh, convicted for Federal racketeering charges and conspiracy involving 14 murders.[22]

Dwight York - Head of Nuwaubianism, convicted in 2004 of multiple RICO, child molestation, and financial reporting charges and sentenced to 135 years in prison
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Alabama Has Highest Rate Of Teacher-Student Sex Abuse: Study

Alabama Has Highest Rate Of Teacher-Student Sex Abuse: Study
The Huffington Post | By Andy Campbell
Posted: 01/15/2015 1:56 pm EST Updated: 01/15/2015 2:59 pm EST

Alabama school employees were implicated in more sex crimes with students than any other state in 2014, according to a new study.

Terry Abbott, the former chief of staff for the U.S. Department of Education who conducted the study, found that 25 Alabama educators were accused or convicted of having sexual relations with students last year, according to the Alabama Media Group. Some states had more incidents, but on a per capita basis, Alabama has the highest rate of teacher-student sex abuse.

To be sure, the law varies state to state and there is no federal law that serves as an umbrella for such cases, which might skew Abbott's numbers a bit. The Alabama Media Group reports:

Alabama Act 2010-497 makes it illegal for any school employee to have a sexual relationship with a student younger than 19. In Wyoming, as long as the student is 16 or older and consents to the relationship, it's not a crime. In Michigan, all such relationships are illegal, regardless of the student's age.

Abbott and other advocates have lobbied for more uniform laws and sentencing guidelines nationwide, but until such legislation is adopted, there's always going to be some disparity, he said.

"In some cases, educators are committing heinous crimes involving children throughout the country and getting very little, if any, real punishment for it. You turn around and find a similar case in another state and find the judicial system has thrown the book at the educator," Abbott said Tuesday.

Texas saw the most cases with 116 accusations out of the 781 that Abbott and his PR firm, Drive West Communications, counted across the country, the New York Daily News reports. But Alabama's lower population means it has a higher rate of such cases.


Thirty-five percent of the cases involved social media in some way, and Abbott told the Daily News that women are more likely to "lure students" via social media.

That said, male educators were involved in double the number of inappropriate relationships than female teachers.
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