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Old 07-20-2015, 07:55 AM   #21
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To: Fort Peck Tribal Council Members Monday July 6,2015
Fr: Concerned Tribal Members Presented at Education Committee
Re: Banishment of Nathan Chasing Horse

A community meeting was held by Enrolled members of Fort Peck Tribes, your constituents who have a serious safety concern to address a problem with Nathan Chasing Horse and his following that has excluded and intimidated some of our Fort Peck Elders and community members from attending a Sundance in Chelsea for the last couple of years. This issue has come up in the Tribal Chambers in the past.

The community meeting was held on Thursday, July 2015 in Poplar by concerned Fort Peck Tribal Members to discuss banishment for his numerous accounts of Spiritual misuse and behavioral misconduct. He and his followers are a threat and danger to our tribal members and tribal communities.

For the past 15 years, he has been visiting our reservation and conducting ceremonies. He verbalizes he has respect for all women and children, yet his personal behavior does not correlate with his supposedly Spiritual actions. The Sundancers that come to participate at Chelsea are 80 to 90% out of state. We do not know what they are bringing onto our reservation.

There are documented cases in the US and Canada of his behavioral conduct, and by two accounts he has pursued minor girls from Fort Peck with his intentions to groom these minors which is a behavior pattern of a perpetrator. He was investigated by Criminal Investigator (CI) Trottier. A minimum of two Fort Peck families where the girls were minors, at that time they were under 18 years of age and were affected and traumatized by him.

Throughout Indian Country his reputation includes allegations of drug trafficking, physical abuse, sexual abuse, spiritual abuse, coercion and fraud. His group was asked to leave and not return in Pinion, Arizona where they conducted a Sundance for several years. His negative reputation and behavior precedes him.

His controlling and "cult like" tactics keep many in fear from leaving the "circle", or "family". We have a few individuals who we would encourage to share their personal stories on how they were affected, if they choose to. He continues to Spiritually Abuse those who refuse to follow his commands, with intimidation and threats to the individual and scare tactics of death.

There are standing allegations that drugs are being brought onto our reservation by his "circle" and possibly some of our own community members involved with him. Along with the drugs there are also weapons that were witnessed by some of our community members on the Chelsea Sundance grounds in the previous years.

This person is a dangerous threat to our reservation and community members. Please take into serious consideration the Fort Peck Comprehensive Code of Justice (CCOJ) Code Grounds for Exclusion: "Any person may be excluded from the Reservation for: (a) Conduct which substantially threatens the life, the physical health or the safety of an Indian or Indians residing on the reservation."

This misconduct is enough to execute grounds to exclusion/banishment from our reservation boundaries in protection of our Women, Children and Land. Thank you, Concerned Tribal Members
Is Tribal members (councilors or Band members)? Are they who are concerned about what is happening to their reservations along with women and children? There are times we have to believe them for what they said.

I know it is the media that can ruined a person's life like celebrities (Bill Cosby) including like Nathan Chasing Horse. It is hard to know who to believe in in spite of what the Chief (did not mention if there is mayor or president or chief in the article) and the Tribal members if they are councilors. Nathan Chasing Horse need a lawyer to help him get through his ordeal of being accused and being threaten to be banned from the Fort Peck reservation. Our hands are tied if that is what Tribal members want to accuse him of what he had been doing in their reservation for 15 years. So there is speculation on getting to interview people around the reservation for investigation on why he was blamed for and what he was accused for?

You have to remembered that Catholic priests were molesting boys, even young girls. Not all religion and Holy Men (Shaman and Medicine Person) are not perfect. Just speculation on what I thought.
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The Week That Was: The Big Stories in Indian Country, July 19, 2015 - ICTMN.com

The Week That Was: The Big Stories in Indian Country, July 19, 2015

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7/19/15


It's our recap of the stories that mattered most in Indian country:

UNWELCOME: Fort Peck tribal leaders voted to ban actor and Lakota “spiritual leader” Nathan Chasing Horse from the Fort Peck Reservation. The motion, which alleges human trafficking, drug dealing spiritual abuse and intimidation of tribal members, will stop Chasing Horse from coming onto the reservation and holding a Sundance and ceremonies.
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INDIAN COUNTRY TODAY MEDIA NETWORK picked up info from this Fort Peck Journal Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fort-...l/224468635045
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Is Tribal members (councilors or Band members)? Are they who are concerned about what is happening to their reservations along with women and children? There are times we have to believe them for what they said.

I know it is the media that can ruined a person's life like celebrities (Bill Cosby) including like Nathan Chasing Horse. It is hard to know who to believe in in spite of what the Chief (did not mention if there is mayor or president or chief in the article) and the Tribal members if they are councilors. Nathan Chasing Horse need a lawyer to help him get through his ordeal of being accused and being threaten to be banned from the Fort Peck reservation. Our hands are tied if that is what Tribal members want to accuse him of what he had been doing in their reservation for 15 years. So there is speculation on getting to interview people around the reservation for investigation on why he was blamed for and what he was accused for?

You have to remembered that Catholic priests were molesting boys, even young girls. Not all religion and Holy Men (Shaman and Medicine Person) are not perfect. Just speculation on what I thought.

The banishment info comes from the Facebook page of the FORT PECK JOURNAL


https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...bstory_index=0
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The banishment info comes from the Facebook page of the FORT PECK JOURNAL


https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...bstory_index=0

Miigwetch (Thank you) for showing me the article reported for Fort Peck.

It sounded like they were talking about the Bible related to the Sun Dance ceremonies. This is not traditional when it come with Christianity. They are praying to the Creator to help them purify themselves usually perished onto their chests where under the nipples are. And then the person were hung up toward the Sun. It was brutal but men seem to try to survive this way. The person have to blow the Eagle whistle as part of being with the Sun.

The thing that bother me is that Nathan Chasing His Horse was using his guns with his followers to keep the tribal members away from the Sun Dance ceremony. Nathan Chasing His Horse should respect the land were the Sun Ceremony was performed. The Council are doing right way on the land and the way the Sun Ceremony should be performed.

I guess when a person like Nathan Chasing His Horse are modern Native and forget about the old ways of Native tradition like the Medicine Wheel and the Sun Dance ceremony. Every tribe are different from each other but the Council had made the decisions on what should be done. The Tribal council should not be threatened by the lawyers and other people who are followers. There are some who sided with him but still he and the followers including the lawyer should respect the council, not with threat like that. The Chief and the Council have made the decision on setting the rules, even some laws in their self government.

That is my feeling knowing about council meetings between the tribal members (councilors) and the Chief (could be president, mayor or Chairman, etc.). I knew this things. Show respect to Council members.

If Nathan Chasing His Horse had been good (hopefully he does) all through 15 years of living on Fort Peck Reservation and not causing any problems or trouble to the reservation. So there is something that is not going right in their reservation. I have enough what I need to say here. Peace.
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I just saw this and in no way possess a dog in the fight.

I CAN say that I have lead Native organizations, been outspoken on controversial issues and received my own share of (false) accusations from haters unable to actually win arguments or be successful on their own merit.

My attitude has always been, "if you think you have something, play the card."

1. No?
2. STFU.

Nobody has ever tried.
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