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Old 11-09-2007, 11:42 AM   #81
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I don't want to sound robotic or versed by a puppetmaster but I doubt that the average white person will vote Obama as president. Rudy Guiliani will win for he's a tough hombre. He has the experience of terror.
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I don't want to sound robotic or versed by a puppetmaster but I doubt that the average white person will vote Obama as president. Rudy Guiliani will win for he's a tough hombre. He has the experience of terror.
No, Rudy Guiliani will not win in 2008. If he does this country will be a police state.
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Not in one million years would I vote for such a man! I wouldn't know where to start for reasons, as there are soooo many! First the color of his skin means nothing! It's pigment and nothing more! Dancing on Ellen or taking Tyra's fluff questions means nothing! It's all empty and only demonstrates that he might be a nice guy. Okay, I know lots of funnier, cuter, intelligent, educated, well off minority men, but that doesn't make them the new Savior. It just means they are nice quality men.
I live in a VERY blue state and this is just a sample for ya from the White left up here in Washington. This is his party up here and this is what they say about us, Blacks and Hispanics. This was on Craigslist and I see it everywhere. Also keep in mind that Craigslist up here and in Portland is as liberal as it gets and not one of them flagged this racist rant. Many agreed with it and bragged about it! I am typing it as it is, so if there are mispellings or bad grammer used, it came from the author.

Land Ownership? Indians?

Those people don't believe in land ownership. How could they have been taken advantage of? They and their cousins in the south need to be corralled as the animals they are. That is what reservations are for and those people have been permitted to have their own casinos for heavens sake, what more do they want now?
A simple look at how they live and what their values structures is will tell any thinking person that Indians and the like need constant supervision. When a noble prize winner whose work with DNA is irrefutable tells us that certain members of the planet are not as intelligent as other members of the planet, it is important that we listen and take action by protecting decent society from a group that poses a threat, intended or otherwise. It is important that we take pride in the heritage of our Indians, negros and hispanics peoples but letting them roam free is a danger to them and that's not what America is all about. Southeren Democrats had the right idea and the right approach and it was destroyed by a bunch of thoughtless ideologues. It isn't their fault that they are Indians, Negro or Hispanics people and they shouldn't be made to endure trying to live in a social setting that they simply cannot be assimilated into. Certainly they can be integrated into society via employment but such employment needs to be limited to their capacities. There will always be gardens to tend and shoes to be shined as well as rolling cigars. To say nothing of the opportunity that the entertainment industry offers in song and dance. Berries still need to be picked, cars need to be washed and ethnic food should be prepared by people who know how so it can be enjoyed by people who can afford it. The chinese are a shining example of a people who understand their role in society and don't try to make themselves into something that they aren't. Regrettably, their cousins, whom blend in with them, are not willing to do the hard work of facing their limitations and subsequently bring nothing positive to decent society. It is all well and fine to extol the virtues in the content of the ones character but to suggest that character is not subjuective is naive at best. Equally understandable is the heartache any compassionate person would sense as they look upon those with naturally lower intellect and mental compacity. Again, it is not the fault of those people that they were born the way they are and filling their minds with false hopes about what they should aspire towards is particulary cruel. It is best that that group be looked after as one would a crippled person, a small child or perhaps the elderly. There is nothing wrong with naming streets after those people, indeed, it is a good thing to do. They need to be reminded of their past and what they came out of by virtue of a caring and understanding people that believe they can yet live some kind of meaningful life. Programs such as Affirmitive Action were specifically designed with our negros and other disadvantaged peoples, in mind. Such programs offer an advocacy that Indians, Negros and Hispanics people would never provide for themselves. It is important to remember whom is supposed to be working for whom. If anyone understands this, it is todays democrates and liberals.
What does this have to do with Obama? Everything, because he is not going to get what he promises done with a party who still thinks of minorities the way they still do. It by no means is just those on the Right of politics who believe these things. Please don't forget that the Democratic party was the KKK back in the day. Just ask Byrd. Obama is not going to change the same old democrats who have never stood up and helped the indigenous. Hell, they are there right now and nothing. They were there and in charge for the eight yrs. under Clinton and nothing, except a pretty speech by Billy boy at Pine Ridge. I am soooo tired of the democrats who brag every election about how they are going to help us...and don't! How they don't have to earn our votes, but just expect us to vote for them, as if we can't think for ourselves! I am sick to death of the BS every election cycle, that they have the new solution or savior, when those already in power do nothing. Do you really think that he is going to get in there and make us a priority and shove what we want down his buddies throats? Yeah, swamp land comes to mind..I'll sell it to you cheap!
Obama does not have a plan to effectively deal with terrorism, as he would do nothing. I come from a military family and know many in the theater now or those who have been. They DO NOT want to serve under him as commander in chief, nor do they feel that he is qualified to lead them. They are there and I believe them! Most anyone can run circles around his supposed qualifications. Saying something about him over and over again does not make him qualified.
We need to pick the best candidate, not because of skin color, or how cute his behind is. This country is at war, 3,000 people lost their lives to terrorism in this country and many more around the world. Europe is burning as I type this and a cute behind is not reason enough to vote for someone to lead us. The evil that attacked us on our own soil is still trying to kill us and tea parties and apologies is not going to stop them, and that's all he's got!
As usual I speak my mind, and know full well that some won't like a thing I have had to say, but so be it. I also enjoy being free to choose and making them earn my vote! I feel like it's being free from slavery, because the left doesn't own me and I don't owe them a damn thang! If you think the left doesn't think like the letter above, then your not informed! Never, in 1 million yrs. will I vote for Obama! The enemies of freedom love him and that is one hell of a reason to vote against him! People that I love have lost their lives fighting the evil he wants to kiss up to and I am mad as hell that he doesn't get it! There is evil in this world and it's no time to pretend otherwise. If your dead, it trumps everything else! Dead is dead is dead and I don't want that for our children!
So have at it but I don't care! Vote for whom ever you want, but please do it for reasons other than a cute a**!
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No, Rudy Guiliani will not win in 2008. If he does this country will be a police state.
Police state or not. Are we ready for the Winds of Black Death that was promised to us by Al Qaeda? This could only be propaganda but one never knows.

We say to those who killed the clerics of the Muslim Sunnis in Iraq to stop, or else... and we promise the Muslims in the world that the strike of the Winds of Black Death (the anticipated strike on America) is now in its last phase [of preparation]. [It is] 90% [ready], Allah willing... Soon (when it suits the Jihad warriors), the believers will rejoice at Allah’s victory.

A warning to the nations: Keep away from the civilian and military institutions of Crusader America and its allies. Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar. Islam is coming, reinforcing [the faithful] and humiliating [the infidels].

The Abu Hafs Al-Masri Brigades (al Qaida), Thursday, the 20th of Muharram, 1425, which is March 11, 2004.

Free Frank Warner: ‚€˜Winds of Black Death‚€™ statement

Codename: "Winds of Black Death"
Posted by Ross E. Getman on Friday March 12, 2004 at 8:04 am MST [ Send to a friend ]
Link to story: anthraxandalqaeda.com

Ayman Zawahiri recently warned that the US would be attacked.

He has plotted for 10 years to use anthrax against US targets and made 15 separate attempts to recruit either a Russian or Middle Eastern scientist who could weaponize anthrax.

Khalid Mohammed had anthrax production documents on his laptop (using a spraydrying method) reportedly found in the home of a bacteriologist.

The group claiming responsibility for the Madrid train bombings (which it says was Codenamed "The Trains Of Death") is also claiming that preparation for an attack on the United States codenamed "The Winds Of Black Death" is 90% complete.

The use of chemical weapons and the destruction it caused in Kurdish villages by Saddam was described in a report by the Physicians for Human Rights called "Winds of Death: Iraq's Use of Poison Gas Against Its Kurdish Population." See also Gwynne Robert, Winds of Death, a film shown on "Dispatches" - channel 4, United Kingdom, November 23, 1988.

Coded talk was used around the same period between Atta and Binalshibh as they approached the zero hour of 11 September. Other code phrases included:

Faculty of Fine Arts = Pentagon

Faculty of Town Planning = World Trade Center

Faculty of Law = The Capitol

White Meat = Americans

Terminal = Indonesia

Market = Malaysia

Ayman Zawahiri's anthrax production program was called "Zabadi", meaning Curdled Milk.

The name of the chief technician's company was Green Laboratory Medicine, with green symbolizing islam.

The name of the company allegedly used to route money to Zacarias Moussaoui was Infocus Technologies.

The name of the sender of the anthrax letters was 4th Grade, Greendale School.

Green dale refers to green "river valley" of Zawahiri's origins -- Egypt, Cairo, Egyptian Islamic Jihad and/or Egyptian Islamic Group . Put it all together and you have their new official name (though the American press does not use it) -- Qaeda al Jihad.

Given that using the same address helps the second recipient receiving the letter to identify it and avoid opening it, the perp would have no reason to use the same address unless he was communicating something and wanted to draw attention to it.

The Unabomber similarly used suggestive return addresses.

Zawahiri uses code names suggestive of the project.

A plane flown into a chemical plant might release a lethal black plume.

On the other hand, the specific name anthracis of bacillus anthracis derives from the Greek word meaning coal, referring to the black skin lesions on the victims.


PHXnews.com | Codename: "Winds of Black Death"

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What is this, "Police State" your talking about? At least Gulliani majorly cut crime and muders in his state, but I guess that that is not a good thing in your book right? Come on man think! What are you condeming when people's lives were saved throughout the state and crime that was being committed on nice good people got cut! That's a horrible thang???
You prefere the other???
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One more thing, while I'm thinking about terrorism and Obama's stand of talking to radical Islamist.
We as a race should know better than most races what evil looks like, when it came to the Genocide of our people. We talked to the Whites, we tried to get along with the Whites, we wanted peace, and they wanted our land, and everything precious to us, and they murdered day and night to get what we had. Did talking change their minds? Did seeing our women and children slaughtered change their minds? Did mutilating our dead change their minds? Did the disease that was brought on purpose to our people change their minds as they saw the suffering and death? Did starving people change minds? Did the trail of tears change minds or the long walk change minds? Did these things not happen?
Why are we as a people who lived through such evil, so quick to think that that same kind of evil will listen to Obama because he wants to talk to them? They want what we have and hold precious to us, to everybody around the world. This evil cannot be talked out of it's mission anymore than the Whites in the past that had it's mission to take what was ours and kill us until we submit! That is another reason to not vote for another "talk" that falls on deaf ears! If Hitler had been stopped before he became so powerful, millions would have been spared. Evil is blind to good and good people pay the price for thinking otherwise! Don't vote for Obama!
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Cool war and terror

War on Iraq is base on lies and deception. Bush lied to the America people. Did Iraq have massive weapons of destructions? NO. it a war for resources. CIA talks a lot about Blow back. what is happening now. We first attack the middle east and suppress them and now they are fighting back. if America have not did what they did, we would not be in this mess. I would not vote for a Neocon like Gulliani ever. Once in office he would take away the Native American rights on what we have left. wake up and look at the truth don't listen to big main stream media as it is own by big corporate American that run this country. At least we have a fighting chance to take back our country with the support with Obama and to say sorry for the many other countries, American and big corporate American had done. WAKE UP. Coffee any one.
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Obama,
This is the type of response I was prodding for. I wanted to hear your voice not the voice of a robot or some puppet of news articles.
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Obama,
This is the type of response I was prodding for. I wanted to hear your voice not the voice of a robot or some puppet of news articles.
if that message was for me, weenug. jk

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my second choice would be Dr. Ron Paul. But my ticket is on Barack Obama.

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Neocon??? Where did you get that word? That's what leftie WHITES call those who can and do think, and DISAGREE with them! Wake up and drink some coffee??? Why don't you put down your cup of KOOLAIDE and refute what I have written??
ALL I SEE FROM YOU is the same ole tired propaganda and talking points of the WHITE DEMOCRATIC party, ya know the party of lies and BS! Your 30 yrs. old and I have a good 22 yrs. more than you of living with their lies anb BS. Your the one who they aren't allowing to think for himself!
You have bought what they have told you about the war and why we are there so that your hatered will grow deep in you!
No weapons of Mass Destruction? Ask the Kurds what killed them, oh was it a weapon of Mass Destruction? How about this, why don't you go to YOUTUBE and look up how many on the left including your fearless leaders that said Saddam had those weapons and that something needed to be done about him and the building threat! Most believe the weapons were moved into Syria btw, because your precious left gave Saddam enough time to move them all by wanting to talk to him some more. Just like we want to talk some more to Iran while they get nukes and then have the ability to kill all the Jews and our troops, and the western world who doesn't submit to ALLAH!
If it were all about oil, then why haven't haven't we taken over the oil fields in Iraq?? Why do they have their own contracts with other countries to sell their oil to? OH, IS THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN LIBERATED AND CAN SELL TO WHOM THEY WANT???
Instead of hating the SUPPOSED NEOCONS, why don't you look to see what's at the end of your nose and the REAL FACTS OF WHAT IS GOING ON OVER THERE! Who do you know who has been over there and has told you what the media, "YOUR DEMOCRATIC MEDIA" WON'T TELL YOU???
I could do this ALL DAY and run circles of TRUTH around every talking point of the LEFTIST PARTY YOUR GETTING YOUR KOOLAIDE FROM. BUT WITH FACTS AND NOT TALKINIG POINTS!
You look up Walid Shoebat, Brigitte Gabriel, Noni Darwish, Ayaan Hirsi Ali. The movie "Obsession" is after the first video. WATCH THE MOVIE FOR THE TRUTH AND TELL US, HOW YOU TALK TO THAT!! WHY DOESN'T THE LEFT WANT US AS A PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY TO SEE THIS MOVIE AND KNOW THE TRUTH?? DO YOUR HOME WORK BEYOND THE TALKING POINTS AND LET'S HAVE A REAL DEBATE AS TO WHO SHOULD BE ELECTED AND WHO WILL BEST DEAL WITH THE REAL THREAT! WAKE UP PEOPLE AND BE FREE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE PARTY THAT CLAIMS TO OWN YOU AND YOUR VOTE!!!!!









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Smile Dr Ron Paul speaks the truth.

Dr Ron Paul speaks the truth. Congressman Ron Paul in the GOP. republican a none Neocon.


Just watch and listen he speak the truth like Obama.
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Parts of the last video that is no longer available. So lets connect the Dots! I know for a fact you haven't heard this on the evening news have you? No talking points just the facts! There are historical facts and as you watch the films and the DATES, most having NOTHING TO DO WITH BUSH!!! It's been going on for a very long time!










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Just a quick note...If the video when clicked says that the video is no longer available, just refresh the page and it should work. Thanks!
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Post By Margaret Kimberley, Black Agenda Report.

By Margaret Kimberley, Black Agenda Report.

If a potential Giuliani presidency in any way resembles a Giuliani mayoralty, then the country would be in for a truly awful time.

It is a supreme irony that Rudolph Giuliani became mayor of New York City because his opponent and predecessor, David Dinkins, is a black man. The myth of the always liberal white New Yorker was proven to be just that on election day in 1993. White voters deserted Dinkins in droves and elected a Republican mayor for the first time in 30 years.

Giuliani, a former prosecutor, took office and immediately began treating New Yorkers, particularly black New Yorkers, like criminals. He specialized in pleasing white people by beating up black people. Under his leadership the police were unleashed and given the right to arrest for petty offenses and even to kill when they felt the urge to do so.

When Haitian immigrant Patrick Dorismond was killed by a police officer, Giuliani illegally released his juvenile justice records to police. Adding insult to injury, he smeared the dead man by stating that he was "no altar boy." The Dorismond case was one of the tipping points that made even some white New Yorkers long for the day that Giuliani would be their former mayor.

His public actions involving his private life also took the bloom off of the Rudy rose. In 2000 Giuliani informed his wife he was leaving her for another woman. He brought her that news via press conference. New York sophistication should not be confused with moral laissez faire. The tacky behavior was never forgotten.

On September 11, 2001 New Yorkers were giving collective thanks because term limits legislation insured that Rudy would soon be gone for good. Only a small number of dead enders were still in his thrall. But the terror attacks on the twin towers put him back in the spotlight. He was dubbed "America's mayor," and made a Knight of British Empire. He then made a bundle by forming Giuliani Partners and making up to $200,000 for a single speaking engagement, marketing himself as a terrorism expert because he managed to look calm for a few days.

Now Giuliani is running for the Republican presidential nomination and he is the very worst of a bad lot. He unabashedly supports the occupation of Iraq and a military attack on Iran. He doesn't think simulating drowning via water boarding is torture and agrees wholeheartedly with the Bush destruction of civil liberties.

If a potential Giuliani presidency in any way resembles a Giuliani mayoralty then the country would be in for a truly awful time. As mayor Giuliani promoted the worst, least competent people to high positions in New York City government. Bernard Kerik, an undercover cop, had the shrewdness to put himself in the right place at the right time when he volunteered to drive Rudy around during his mayoral campaign. Despite the lack of any other credential, his rise to power was swift. First he was made a Deputy Commissioner at the Department of Corrections, then Commissioner.

Kerik was nothing but a crook. Fully aware that Kerik was under investigation for taking money from a construction company with organized crime connections, Giuliani nonetheless appointed him Police Commissioner.

While others insist that they informed Giuliani of Kerik's mob ties, Rudy claims not to remember. He certainly didn't remember when he recommended his pal for a cabinet level position as Secretary of Homeland Security. When Kerik imploded under an avalanche of bad publicity Rudy just shrugged his shoulders, confident that he would continue to get away with doing whatever he wants.

Giuliani has credibility with most Republican voters because of his warmongering and inclination to inflict physical pain on dark people. He is still in trouble with conservative Christians for his pro-choice position as mayor of New York City and for publicly treating his wife and children like dirt. He plans to make up for that by being more overtly racist.

He will remind white Republicans of the good old days when he cut the welfare roles. He did so by breaking the law and denying benefits to eligible people, but no matter. He knows his audience. When they hear the word welfare they will salivate like Pavlovian dogs and decide that Rudy is their man.

There is every reason to believe that Giuliani will act out his every sick fantasy if he were to occupy the oval office. There is no reason to believe that Democrats would finally behave like an opposition. A Giuliani presidency is a nightmarish scenario. We will all be Patrick Dorismond, assumed to be guilty of something and therefore worthy of punishment. It is hard to imagine a worse president than George W. Bush, but Rudolph Giuliani fits that description perfectly.
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By Margaret Kimberley, Black Agenda Report.
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We don't want an article written by a wasicu. Why can't you put your own words and your own thoughts. You can't be riding the coattails of somebody else.
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AND HERE I THOUGHT THAT MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, YOU DIDN'T REPLY YESTERDAY BECAUSE YOU WERE GIVING SOMETHING SOME THOUGHT AND WERE GOING TO REPLY WITH SOMETHING BEYOND TALKING POINTS. WHAT AN UTTER DISAPPOINTMENT YOU ARE!

SOOOOO, in other words your TOTALY BLIND, can't or won't discuss ANYTHING and like the robot that was sent to us NDN's just in time for the election propaganda, you show up with a continual mantra like a BLIND MAN!
Tell me, did you learn ANYTHING AT ALL?? Did you decide that everyone who disagrees with you needs a big cup of coffee because we shouldn't confuse you with the facts?
Truth teller, wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air!
You love every social issue Rudy stands for except protecting this country! He's for every social issue that your lackey stands for and yet when it comes to terrorism you want to kiss the butts of the terrorists that are killing our troops and people around the world and tell them sorry, let them get nukes and amass weapons, and let them just keep on killing! Did you even consider what was on the videos or did you even bother to watch them? Did you ever consider that most of the dates were before Bush and the war? Did you ever consider that it's racism that is driving the terrorists like the people on the videos claim?
Your hiding behind your talking points, so when are you going to have the courage to address what I posted and prove your facts?
I won't hold my breath, because you've been sent on a mission and won't engage in thought or debate and you are not doing the indigenous a favor by telling them that the only answer is an inexperienced man because his biggest prop is that he is Black, and a minority! WHOOPIE! I know lots of Blacks and minorities and that doesn't make them qualified to run the country! That further does not prove that he is going to do anything for the indigenous because of the pigment of his skin! Ole Bill Clinton got huge props for talking at Pine Ridge, ya know the first Black president, and NOTHING!!!!!
SO, TO SUM IT UP WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT THE TERRORISTS THAT HAVE KILLED THOUSANDS AROUND THE WORLD AND IN THIS COUNTRY DESERVE AN APOLOGY AND A BIG HUG FROM US FOR MAKING THEM DO IT? Yeah, WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER!
According to the people in the video, your dead wrong and your going to vote for the death of possibly millions for getting a man elected who is not going to do what needs to be done!
YOUR THE KOOLAIDE DRINKER AND NON THINKER AND HITLER HIMSELF COULD TELL YOU WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO AND YOU WOULD BLAME THIS COUNTRY AND BUSH IF YOU COULD FIND A WAY!
WATCH THE VIDEOS I POSTED AND LEARN THE REAL TRUTH FROM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IT! FORMER TERRORISTS, AND OTHERS THAT WERE THERE AND LIVED IT AS CHILDREN AND ADULTS!! WHAT THEY LIE TOO, IT THAT THE BIG BUSH CONSPIRACY?

COME ON OUT AND STOP BEING A COWARD! DEBATE THE FACTS!

PROVE TO EVERYONE THAT I AM WRONG ON WHAT I POSTED AND THAT THE VIDEOS ARE LIES AND THOSE PEOPLE LIED!

OH, AND I AM NOT YELLING, I JUST FIGURED THAT MAYBE HE COULDN'T READ THE SMALL PRINT!
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SOOOOO, in other words your TOTALY BLIND, can't or won't discuss ANYTHING and like the robot that was sent to us NDN's just in time for the election propaganda, you show up with a continual mantra like a BLIND MAN!

Ogama!
Wake up! Come on now, we know that you have your own views. Show us what is on your mind. I'm registered to vote and I just may vote against you which will negate you and all the work that you've been working so hard at.
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