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Mato Winyan 04-14-2004 05:25 PM

Bogus Powwow Vendor
 
Received this today... anyone putting on a powwow should be forwarded a copy of this. The orginator of the letter is a well known and respected person on the powwow trail.



I WANT TO WARN ANYONE ORGANIZING POWWOWS TO AVOID WORKING WITH THIS FOOD VENDOR:

Steve Corbae is a food vendor who uses the name Mountain River Concessions to sell "buffalo" burgers and other food. He contacted me about setting up a booth at the 16th Annual Natchez Powwow. I gave him the benefit of a doubt and allowed him to set up without sending in his trader fee ahead of time. As soon as he arrived he became very difficult and demanding. He sold food for two full days (we had perfect weather and big crowds). I allowed him to pay on Saturday evening with a personal check for $195. I even agreed to hold the check for a few days before cashing it. Later the bank called me to report that he had stopped payment on the check as soon as he left Natchez. I had to reimburse the bank the full amount. I thought maybe that he had just been short on funds, so I called him to check on the situation and he confirmed that he had just decided to stop payment. He then hung up on me and would not talk or offer an explanation.

He had sold a lot of food at the powwow and had done very well. The small fee that I charge vendors helps to cover the travel expenses of the head staff and the singers. The gate fee helps to cover the lodging expenses for the head staff. This is definitely not a money making powwow for me. In fact, my family and I sponsor the dance every year at great personal financial cost. His behavior is an insult to singers and dancers in the Native American tradition.

I just want to warn anyone who might be involved with organizing powwows to beware of Steve Corbae with Mountain River Concession out of Melbourne, Florida. He is a very difficult person to work with and apparently to top it off he is a big cheat. He is not a friend of anyone on the "Powwow Trail". If you would like to contact him to voice any complaints, his phone number is 321-427-3642 and his mailing address is PO Box 360692 Melbourne, FL 32926. Please spread the word.

Thanks,

Chuck Borum, Natchez Powwow Chairman

PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR AND FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO ANYONE YOU KNOW WHO MIGHT BE INVOLVED WITH ORGANIZING POWWOWS

The Edge Water Kid 04-14-2004 06:55 PM

Man!! That really chaps my azz!!!

Chuck's a good guy, runs a good powwow.....and I was only too happy and honored to have been asked to serve as their head man dancer one year at Natchez Powwow.

....that's just nuts!!! It's okay....bad karma comes back to haunt you when you least expect it.....


WATCH YER BACK BURGER MAN!!!!!!!!

warhoop 04-21-2004 03:44 AM

I thought I would bring this thread back up to the top one more time. To let people who didn't see it get a look at it.
Word about this guy needs to be spread around so that this doesn't happen to anyone else.

billyjoejimbob 04-21-2004 10:49 AM

What a dirtbag.

Anyone know about Creative Native? I hear he did the same thing in Florida. Not a bad check, just refused to pay and left early.

Grits & Beans 04-21-2004 11:25 AM

I got something for that punk if I ever see his stand..... :boxing:

Tom Iron Eagle 04-28-2004 11:45 AM

Hear about this.
 
This is really getting around. I heard about it from a FWD that was a FWD from yet another FWD in my private E-Mail and from a FWD's at the University's E-Mail. So the news is really getting around.

Good to see it here as this is the biggest Native Information Site that I know of. So we can all help in letting all know about his person and hopefully getting this vendor to do the right thing.

Kiwehnzii 04-28-2004 12:18 PM

That's lower'n snakes belly inna wagon rut.

50cal 05-03-2004 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwehnzii
That's lower'n snakes belly inna wagon rut.

:cowboy: LOL

comchocldy 05-03-2004 06:06 PM

Bad Vendors
 
Thanks so much for the info. Sometimes when PW organizers are ripped off on the east coast, the vendors come out west and start up again. I just had an experience with a food/clothing vendor. They hadn't paid their fees either and double charged me on a purchase I made at the El Camino college PW. Fortunately one of the organizer kept some data on them so I was able to find them..

They were so surprised that I found them and had gotten vital info on them they paid me back real quick. I threaten to file a complaint against their business license and the Calif. Franchise Tax board. Since they paid no fees, they didn't have to pay taxes as they officially "weren't there". Amazing what a persuader the Tax board can be. Oh when I first contacted them, all of a sudden, nobody spoke English!

I tell you this whole vendor thing is getting out of wack at the UCLA PW, all the vendors were mexican or white. I see less and less NA vendors. On a trip to Japan (I work for the airlines) I saw dreamcathers all over the place, and all made in China.

where are the Ndn vendors?

billyjoejimbob 05-03-2004 06:43 PM

yeah, the venders at most powwow are getting sucky.

tomahawks, animal hides, imported beadwork.

cant get anything good anymore.

I buy tapes and cds now, thats it, nothing else worth it.

The white traders get their stuff from NDNs on commission. Some even get stuff from the pawn shops, I hear live pawn can be bought for the right amount.

Its a damn shame.

The_HULK 05-03-2004 08:58 PM

I'm never going to buy one of those juicy buffalo burgers again. :)

Seriously, I used to like his burgers, but I hate it when people think they can get away with stuff like that.

He's not getting any more of my money.

Coyot_In_The_House 05-04-2004 12:42 PM

I remember Frybread was 50 cents.....
 
Whaz up with the prices these days........?

Granted it does take alot of hard work to run a food stand, some folks are just ridiculous.......And the food is rugged?

Just tote your bread and a ring of red.....

Mato Winyan 05-04-2004 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coyot_In_The_House
Just tote your bread and a ring of red.....

Sounds like a good slogan for a t-shirt! :rofl2:

Nezbah 05-04-2004 02:32 PM

Ahhhhhhhh SHOOT.......I am a powwow mom......just bring a loaf of bread, spam or indian steak (bologna), and of course Basha's pop........the whole family is set. :D. These vendor's are gettin outta hand, I can't afford 7.00 for a INDIAN TACO!!! Tiny Tot $$ isn't even that rich......ayeeee. Unless they take Food stamps.......:P. Anyhow, well just keep it real, buy from NATIVES only.....wooooo hoooooo......and if you can't make it yourself, well buy it from some native you know who can :D. ........ KEEP IT REAL.....KEEP IT NATIVE....

:rofl: @ WATCH YER BACK BURGER MAN!!!!!!!!
AND OF COURSE......Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyot_In_The_House

Just tote your bread and a ring of red.....


Sounds like a good slogan for a t-shirt! ......

HEY I'D BUY ONE.......IF IT WAS NATIVE MADE!!!! LMAOH....

Steady Rollin 05-11-2004 08:43 AM

That's just wrong.
 
EVEN THOUGH A POW WOW IS OUR TRADITIONAL CELEBRATION, When your on a pow wow commitee you gotta run things like a business cuase there are people out there that wanna make a quik buck off our pow wows. You tell them payment first, If they don't want to comply then you don't give them their electicity until they pay. Simple as that, cause you have to make your money too. Money that goes to benifit our dancers, by fitting it into the prizemoney and whatever. Cause you need it. There's Bills that need to be payed to run a pow wow. So people don't let these people run all over you.

nt_inuk 05-13-2004 02:25 PM

Gosh! what a shame, like it was said, bad karma will make it way back round.

Coyot_In_The_House 05-15-2004 08:38 PM

I know!
 
We'll lock that Vendor up in a room and make him eat his own over priced, over cooked rugged food.....

There is some good food @ Powwows, but sometimes....WONGEH!

gunny 05-25-2004 11:08 PM

Ran into this burger man a couple of times on the trail. Grand Ridge Fla, and Ala. Seems he also hires young uns to work for him and then insults them by giving them $5 for two days work. Still watching out for him to collect the rest

winter wolf 05-26-2004 08:04 AM

just a little added info on the "so-called burger man"....
we have been to a few powwows where this vendor has been vending and i must tell you his additude sucks along with his food.
we have seen him destroy tribal grounds in alabama by spinning big ruts in the lawn, emptying all his trash on the grounds upon his departure, and breaking the water lines just because he didn't make enough money, and because he wasn't the only food vendor.
we have also seen him disrespect a clan mother and her children in florida over not making enough money and control over the water hose.
we have also seen him throw a fit in new york, because he wasn't the only food vendor and he couldn't set up where he wanted to. he made more money that weekend than any other food vendor, but still acted like a butt-head.
i can tell you one thing, the destruction of the tribal grounds really upset me and made me wonder if he is native at all...
in my opinion, he isn't...furthermore, i got sick (along with 4 others) after eating his so-called buffalo hot dogs.
please get this man off the trail because i don't think he has a good heart or good food.

hidatsawmn26 05-27-2004 11:37 AM

we have our share of bad vendors here in ohio..like this silver wolf trading post...cheezy stuff there...i mean its absolute cheesy...why are white ppl running a trading post in the first place?well needlesstosay they closed down probably b/c of no business..thats one thing even legit traidng posts always learned never ever open a trading post in toledo...but imjust rambling here... in reguards with a response to the thread i say someone needs to do something...ever tried calling better business bureau?

little wolf 06-06-2004 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steady Rollin
EVEN THOUGH A POW WOW IS OUR TRADITIONAL CELEBRATION, When your on a pow wow commitee you gotta run things like a business cuase there are people out there that wanna make a quik buck off our pow wows. You tell them payment first, If they don't want to comply then you don't give them their electicity until they pay. Simple as that, cause you have to make your money too. Money that goes to benifit our dancers, by fitting it into the prizemoney and whatever. Cause you need it. There's Bills that need to be payed to run a pow wow. So people don't let these people run all over you.

I STRONGLY AGREE!!! Money first or NOTHING.. That burger man better hope he don't come my way! :5:

Silly_Az_girl 06-15-2004 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by little wolf
I STRONGLY AGREE!!! Money first or NOTHING.. That burger man better hope he don't come my way! :5:

*LOL*

What a rude guy.. I'll get the word out too!

shookshooklaquay 06-22-2004 08:01 AM

Battle with the Burger Man
 
Thats a real shame, Chuck and his family are great and the Natchez dance is looked forward too by so many people. I haven't gotten a chance to be there yet, but my family goes pretty much every year....and well Chucks big heart was rewarded with a Slap in the face by the tainted meat man!!! wow that guy sure messed with the wrong group of people...you better sleep with one eye open there burger boy.

Wakalapi 08-26-2004 06:52 PM

Hey just to refresh an older topic, any recent word in this guy?

Donna D 09-15-2004 10:43 AM

I don't think I've run into that guy. But we were at "Trade Days" right on the border of Tennessee and North Carolina. There was a vendor with smoked turkey legs right next to the arena. I had gone over to get a turkey leg for lunch when I heard him complaining loudly about the drums being so loud. Man, why do you want to set up right next to the arena if you don't like drums? What do you think we dance to? I think he also had something to say about Indians as well. Anyways, he had sold several of them legs to dancers before that comment, but not one more after! That's the way to get to those guys! Don't buy anything from them! This Trade Days thing has a powwow, and a country fair and a Civil War reeactment. Anyway, in one of the CW reenactments, some of our "Warriors" took their dance sticks and other implements of destruction and got in on the battle! They pulled those guys off their horses and generally had a good time. Funny thing, though, them reenactors didn't think it was so funny! Hmmm, some people got no sense of humor.

t'aultaun ondep 09-16-2004 11:23 PM

Scabby-Azz Burger Man
 
That's the scabbiest, most rugged thing I've heard about from a powwow in a really long time. That's just plain shameful.

Haven't been to Natchez in a really long time. No one deserves that kind of treatment.

PoncaPride 09-28-2004 03:22 PM

I hear ya'll. What about these wannabe's that gives committees hot checks cause they know the will be long gone by the time the check hits the bank. Then they stand around in their stands (the guys with no shirts on) trying to act all knowledgable and c**p. This one vendor goes everywhere selling shirts, caps and other "Indian made trinkets". AR. I won't put the name out just yet because of the litigation that's gonna come out of this. To make it worse...why do they always claim to be CHEROKEE! This makes the real Indian speaking Cherokee's look bad.

rpotts 10-01-2004 01:19 PM

It aint just wannabes giving hot checks for vendor space or actin ****ty when it comes time to pay. Hell last year we had 5 hot checks - 1 from Canada that we'll never be able to collect on - 2 from our own tribal members and 2 from other Natives we were able to collect from our tribal members almost a full year later but still haven't collected from the other three. Our pow wow is NATIVE ONLY when it comes to crafts and food and we still have the same problems. From that experience this year we did cash or money order only BEFORE any stand was set up which sucks - I hate being like that but we gotta pay the bills.

Tom Clinton 10-21-2004 08:16 PM

pow wow vendors
 
well some vendors have to now show cdib's to set up at many pow wows. this is a good thing!

some vendors get stuff made in tj mexico and pass it off as home made. exploitation of mexicans and you the $ public.

and travel coast to coast.....

ABENEWA KWE 10-31-2004 12:24 AM

wow ... that really suckz ... wuz he even native???? not that were all angels and ish, but wow .... that is crazy!!!! i can't see how someone can do some ish like that at a powwow .... unless their chimook

Native_Sooner 12-06-2004 03:19 PM

Oh MY! There's jus so many, dont get me started. (lol)

crazywolf 01-04-2005 10:19 PM

Florida pow wows and bad vendors
 
Boozhoo niji,

I live here in Florida, and have been to most of the pow wows down here, not each and every one, but probably close to 90% of them. I have to admit that I have never seen this guy or his markee set up, at any of them.

And he lives here in Florida? That has to tell you something. LOL

Anyway, I know most of the people that organize pow wows around here personally, and if I see someone with that name or mark setting up, will be sure to warn the committee.

Derek

Asgaya_Gigagei 01-06-2005 09:27 PM

I had attended this = Third Annual NHGI Melbourne PowWow

He was there. I had no Idea how this person worked but I waited a long time in his line and I got closer to the front and saw he was prepairing Indian Tacos with his bare hands and taking money without a wash inbetween. I was very put off and did not get anything like that, just a plain Frybread and a bottled water. Had I know what hes like to the People I would not have bothered. I was upset at only this part of the day. The Powwow was good tho. He was dirty. I could see it. But that kind of thing is a double whammy. Stiff you on the vendor fee and provide unsafe meals for 100's of people. That My dear friends is evil.

canavajo 01-07-2005 02:14 AM

Bad Publicity for Powwows
 
I copied the original message and forwarded to quite a few friends here in CA that hold Powwows and Rendezvous. The Mountain men Group were furious. Also, if a vendor claims it was made by a Native American they have to prove it or they will be reported to the Native American Arts It is in the Native News I think I will send a "Letter of Depreciation for the Natives in pursuit of happiness!" Just hang in there and be ndn.

*Brown Eyed Gurl* 01-07-2005 02:29 AM

Just Nasty.....and sad....mostly nasty

hopping crow 01-25-2005 11:38 AM

This Guy Also Did The Same Thing Down Here In Tampa At The Seminole Rez.i Think This Guy Is Scum And That If I Had My Way...........well Ill Just Leave It At That Lol

indianbeware 03-08-2005 06:30 PM


indianbeware 03-08-2005 06:34 PM

There is also a Full Blood Shoshone Vendor/Artist who does the same thing.
MANY People know him! He is at most PowWows.
Sells other people's work, says it is his own........and KEEPS THE MONEY!!!!!!!!
That is sad!
Many Long Laboring Hours of WORK for "HIS POCKET?"
I am seriously considering adding his name /address/ and phone number as well!
I have to hand it to ya Mato !
I think these people SHOULD BE EXPOSED!

ndnmba 03-09-2005 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indianbeware
There is also a Full Blood Shoshone Vendor/Artist who does the same thing.
MANY People know him! He is at most PowWows.
Sells other people's work, says it is his own........and KEEPS THE MONEY!!!!!!!!
That is sad!
Many Long Laboring Hours of WORK for "HIS POCKET?"
I am seriously considering adding his name /address/ and phone number as well!
I have to hand it to ya Mato !
I think these people SHOULD BE EXPOSED!

I think there is a place on this website where you can rate a vendor or do something with reviewing of vendors.

lakota_mami303 03-16-2005 10:15 PM

wat about the white peeps that try 2 run a powwow! i've seen it.....kraazy


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