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Old 03-30-2006, 07:13 PM   #21
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Poor Baby Girl...

I love my babies sooo much the thought of someone hurting them makes my heart ache. As far as his punnishment many things come to mind but the one I like is stripping tiny strips of his flesh, and soaking him in gas and lite em up like a christmas tree!! But the little one is safe and happy with people who love her on the other side and not ever to be hurt again!
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you know after reading this all i could do is ask myself why. i myself have a beautiful baby girl who turned 2 years old today and there is nothing in this world that i would trade her for. i was asked a question one time as to if i would die for my child and you know i would die for her in a heart beat. now on to how i feel that the parents should be punished and that is for them to be treated the way that they treated their baby girl. make them suffer the way that they made her suffer. i mean there are so many people out there that would have gladly taken her into their homes. but from what i got from the reading is that she was gone before she even passed.
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This is terrible. It makes me so sad to know that someone would treat a baby like this. So Barbaric.
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As a Grandma and mother, my heart hurts when I think about the pain this young sacred child went through. I cry when I think about the confusion she must've felt when she felt nothing but pain from the people who were supposed to love and protect her.

Young people, love your children, take care of them. They are the future of our Native way of life. If you are on drugs and alcohol, please stop and take a long look at your life. If you have children, stop for their sake. Hug your babies and tell them you love them.

This beautiful baby now has all the grandmas and grandpas watching over her. Our beloved Elders who have gone on are now taking care of her. She is surrounded by love and beauty. She no longer feels pain.
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I'm sorry to say this happened in my own community. This is just horrendous and it doesn't get any easier even after hearing about it over and over for the last year and a half.

Andrew Yellowbear has been found guilty of First Degree Murder over the weekend. Sentence diliberations begin today. I, for one, don't think he should be given the death penalty. He should rot in prison for decades with no possibility of parole.

What makes this terrible crime even worse is that neighbors who heard the babies cries in the apartment complex, who saw him dragging the baby by the hair, and saw the baby with a black eye and then two black eyes did NOTHING.

I'm hoping everyone will step up and get involved. Turn in someone you believe is abusing their child. If they're not, no biggie. If they are, you may save a life or save some poor child great pain and suffering.
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What makes this terrible crime even worse is that neighbors who heard the babies cries in the apartment complex, who saw him dragging the baby by the hair, and saw the baby with a black eye and then two black eyes did NOTHING.

I'm hoping everyone will step up and get involved. Turn in someone you believe is abusing their child. If they're not, no biggie. If they are, you may save a life or save some poor child great pain and suffering.
That's one of the reasons I posted this article. I almost did'nt but people need to know about this so they can help prevent it where they are...
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Deplorable. There is a case like that too up here on a rez. A little baby girl (4yrs???) who was put back in her mothers home from childrens aid and then was murdered. Apparently she was kept in a cage and shot at with bb guns and starved. Apparenlty it happened over 9 months ago but noone noticed her missing and it only came to light after her 12 yr old step brother came forward. They have yet to find the body which is believed to have been buried at a garbage dump.

It makes my soul cry and my heart ache to know there are such eveil people among us. Thankfully, she is out of that absolute horror and in a place where she will not even remember what happened. I cannot fathom the fear and pain this baby girl must have felt.

Those are not her parents. Those things will get what's coming to them either in jail or in the hereafter.
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Old 04-03-2006, 05:34 PM   #28
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yea if you even think there is something not right in a home - call!!! tell someone (your local native Child and Family Agency) if you are on reserve and if you are not call the local social services/human services or the police/RCMP. if you dont know the number to your local ICFS agency - REPORT IT TO THE POLICE/RCMP!! they will contact the proper authorities for you!!

and everybody remember this - if you dont call your hands will have that child's blood on them too!! better to be safe than sorry!!
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Deplorable. There is a case like that too up here on a rez. A little baby girl (4yrs???) who was put back in her mothers home from childrens aid and then was murdered. Apparently she was kept in a cage and shot at with bb guns and starved. Apparenlty it happened over 9 months ago but noone noticed her missing and it only came to light after her 12 yr old step brother came forward. They have yet to find the body which is believed to have been buried at a garbage dump.

It makes my soul cry and my heart ache to know there are such eveil people among us. Thankfully, she is out of that absolute horror and in a place where she will not even remember what happened. I cannot fathom the fear and pain this baby girl must have felt.

Those are not her parents. Those things will get what's coming to them either in jail or in the hereafter.
i remember watching this on the television -fakkkin sick parents!!

this took place on the fisher river first nation in manitoba, canada. and everyone is saying no comment ... this lil girl had the ball dropped her and she lost her life for it ...
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Good he was found guilty. And now they will decide his punishment. So what happen to the mother? She made a deal, but what jail time is she serving? I hope it is long enough that she will be barren when she is released. And that her other children will have the chance to grow up without her evil influence. She is just at much at fault as he is. She saw everything and let it happen. NO MAN"S LOVE IS WORTH THE DEATH OF YOU CHILD!

What happen to the other people? Is the Grandmother going to be punished as well? I think she is partly to blame. Why didn't she go check on her? Or demand that they bring her to them to see her. She is the person who was given custody of this child. I also feel the closest neighbors should be reprimanded by the courts and by the tribal elders. They should all feel shame for allowing this to happen.

I heard about this story when the little girl died. I am glad you posted the stories for everyone to read, Blackbear. We all must be involved in our neighbors, families and communities. We should always report crimes, especially where the innocent are involved. We should call the police everytime we see someone weaving on the road or abusing another human being. Quit trying to deny alcohol abuse, drug abuse and physical abuse.
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oh, i could barely finish reading this story through my tears that were falling for this precious baby, the absolute horror she was subjected to, my heart feels so heavy for this beautiful baby, to think that there are truly evil people in this world, but i know Marcela Hope is in a special place with the creator, i just dont understand why children are put back with parents who abused them in the first place to suffer more or lose their lives.

they should do to andrew what he did to marcela so he knows what pain and anguish he cause her before they hang him, an eye for an eye
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Child Murdered -- warning advised before reading

This is in response to the many replies to the story of Marcela's death published by the Riverton Ranger. First of all this was and still is a very emotional time for all those who were directly involved with this case. I've known Macalia for over ten years, I know in my heart that she wouldn't hurt her children. I know what this man Andy is capable of doing first hand. I have seen his work all over Macalia's face and body long before Marcela was born, I have watched and helped both the Grandmother and Aunt of Macalia struggle to bring justice for her. The legal channels (social services, local police) were of no help, it seemed they protected him more than her, and out of fear Macalia also protected him. Andy beat her while she was pregnant with each of their four children. Andy was incarcerated for a period of time for beating her while she was pregnant with the twins. During this time I watched Macalia get her life on track. She completed parenting classes and was living alcohol and drug free. To make a long story short, he returned and the struggle continued. There was a court order that stated he was not to be in the home but a piece of paper couldn't keep him away. Marcela was given to her mother on the condition that Andy was not living there. He won, because the social services would not listen to the grandmother. She did follow the court order when she knew he was there by calling the police, social services but nothing was ever done. Sometime in the month of June no one was allowed to go into the apartment. Everytime we asked about Marcela, Macalia would say that she was with her dad. I understand that many of you may not feel sympathy for the mother but she also went through hell. She endured many beatings by this man, even in front of his family members and they did nothing to protect her. He brought his sisters over to beat Macalia in her own home. I had seen Macalia's face after a beating, she had a knot on her forehead the size of a cue ball and shoe prints on her face, she had also been hit by a metal chair. This incident happened in front of his grandmother, police were notified, only to have his grandmother lie and deny that anything had happened, the place had been cleaned before police arrived. For four years Macalia had black eyes, knots, split lip, bald spots and scars. I have told you only a small part of this story, to clarify the accusations of the grandmother failing to do anything, her heart is broken for Macalia and Marcela, she loves them both. The mourning process has just begun for the Blackburn family after fighting for justice for so long. Andrew tried to kill Marcela while she was still in the womb by stomping on Macalia's stomach. On July 2, 2004 Andrew stated, " I wish this little b**** would hurry up and die." within a couple of hours our Marcela was gone, Andrew completed his goal. Domestic violence and child abuse is overlooked because no one wants to get involved. I pray that the new laws will change this attitude so that many victims can be helped before its to late. Protect your loved ones any way you can. For those of you who read this, I pray that you will never forget Marcela Hope for the sake of all children.
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There is a pecking order in prisons, and child murderers/child
molesters/child abusers are at the very bottom. Usually they
have to be segregated from the other prisoners. I say: give
this SOB life without parole and then drop him in the general
prison population. Let him learn the meaning of the words
"punk", "punk-*****" and "sissy" in prison jargon--which he will
--before the other inmates do him in (which they will--look
what happened to Jefferey Dahmer).
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Rezbluesgirl--- I would like to thank you for the personal insight on this situation. I can only imagine how hard it is on everyone close to this little girl and my sincerest sympathies are with her family.
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Child Murdered--warning advised before reading

I just discovered a transcript of the begining of this thread on dailyranger.com

you might be able to find the story by typing

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I don't know what this world is coming too.It makes me sick everytime I here about a murder.I think they should treat the guilty party the same why the victims were treated.
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I just discovered a transcript of the begining of this thread on dailyranger.com

you might be able to find the story by typing

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Yep.. I knew about this NYWG... thing that upsets me is that the reporter only "picked" some selected posts, most of them the angrier sounding ones and it put some of this thread out of context.
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The online version of the Ranger story about the web postings is even slightly different than what was actually printed in the paper. The online version added a post by ThisGirlPowwows.
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gee, i guess my words were twisted around, makes us sound like an angry mob
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