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Old 06-10-2010, 10:50 PM   #1
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Rape on the Reservation // Current

After seeing previews I went to current.com to look for scheduled showings of Rape on the Reservation - a look at the epidemic of sexual violence in Indian Country, specifically the Rosebud reservation.

To my surprise, the whole show played on the website. WARNING: it's disturbing and has some graphic pictures of a deceased victim at the beginning.

Overall, it is a well presented documentary that dares to bring these issues out from under the rug. It shows the tips of the icebergs anyway.
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i have heard that former south dakota governor janklow was never convicted of raping a rosebud woman in the 70s(he wasn't govenor at the time). i was with my husband, his cousin and her husband when the fbi arrested him. i won't go into detail but it involved the assault and murder of his(the guy arrested) cousin's daughter. now just before he did get arrested he was very paranoid. he kept saying somethings wrong this feels like a trap, which convinced me that he was guilty. they (fbi) did not have enough evidence to charge him in his cousin's daughters case so they brought up some old charges from the mid eighties and he got 82 years. i haven't seen this video yet, wouldn't play for me on my blackberry. my thoughts are as uncomfortable as this subject is-it needs to be talked about. i was a victim myself
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I saw this video last week when a male friend of mine sent it to me. It was eye opening to say the least because it can happen in every ndn community out there. Alot of females probably don't even know what they went through is rape and maybe guys don't even know what they are doing is rape. Seriously! They probably think "oh, she's so drunk, she's an easy lay", but it's wrong!!! So very wrong!
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I think this should be required viewing for every teenage girl on the rez.

Two days after posting this, a friend of mine had to go find his little sister at a house party. She was out of it and had just been sexually assaulted. I've heard more horror stories after discussing this with people around here, and I hope to hell its mostly rumor.

On the flip side, you have people being falsely accused. I can think of 4 right now off the top of my head. If only half are really truly falsely accused, then that is still too many.
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I happend to see this thread, and I had to wrote a few words after seeing this video. It was HEAVY stuff!!! I almost regret seeing it!!! It left me in a state of shock, and took me a long time to get back to my daily life.

Is this what our (the white man) society is giving to your people???
I don't think the solution is more federals, as it was pointed out in the video, more federals and so on, but that your people gets back to your ancestors tradtions and belief in order to overcome this evil! You have to remember your past and be PRODE of it!!!

I believe the reason for all this violence is that you have lost all sense of value and diginity. Get back to your roots!!!!
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Old 06-24-2010, 04:36 PM   #6
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It is heavy stuff. Unfortunately, rape is a global crime that happens way too often. Not talking about it, sweeping it under the rug, or pretending it's not happening is part of the problem.

True, the white man first shredded our communities and culture, then wonders why everything isn't nice and neat now.

Here's a link about a small group of girls that are trying to actually do something about it:Reservation girls learn self-defense

I could post a scarier link: The link to our county's sexual offender database which shows many, many natives that live right here.

Of course, things are bad all over, not just in Indian Country. My friend in Billings was telling me the horror stories of all the kids she grew up with in her neighborhood, and they were the only native family on the block.
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Old 06-24-2010, 04:43 PM   #7
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On the topic of more federal officers, we've had a boom of extra officers (mostly BLM and forest service officers) and it's been quite a shock.

They've gotten everybody scared to drive down the road (cuz our speed zones are so whacky), and have handed out many many traffic tickets, but this is not where the problem is.

We need officers that aren't scared to break up a teenage drinking party. We need officers that are going to investigate and break up the drug dealing networks. We need officers that are going to patrol where vandalizism and break-ins occur. Go ahead and have saturation check points, but quit harrassing innocent motorists and threatening them over possession of sage and cedar.
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what we need is more involvement from men. seems the overall attitude is 'thats not my problem' or 'this doesn't concern me, i'm not a rapist!'.

guys, if you truly care about your mother, grandmothers, sisters, aunts, daughters, granddaughters, nieces and female cousins then yes-it is your problem and it does concern you! we need more of our brothers to be protectors. we need more of our brothers to take a stance against the rape of our women relatives!

i'm not pointing fingers, this is just a call for action, for a positive solution to prevention of this far too common crime.
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This just broke my heart. As a rape survivor myself, I wish that these women find strength to get on with their lives and be whole again. I hope that people rise up and say, no more.
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what we need is more involvement from men. seems the overall attitude is 'thats not my problem' or 'this doesn't concern me, i'm not a rapist!'.

guys, if you truly care about your mother, grandmothers, sisters, aunts, daughters, granddaughters, nieces and female cousins then yes-it is your problem and it does concern you! we need more of our brothers to be protectors. we need more of our brothers to take a stance against the rape of our women relatives!

i'm not pointing fingers, this is just a call for action, for a positive solution to prevention of this far too common crime.
I agree, well said G&B
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The cavalier attitude of the young men that were interviewed really disturbed me. It seemed like they were excusing the brutality due to the fact that many of them had seen their fathers abuse their mothers. Yes, there is a vicious circle of violence that can be created and passed through generations, but it never makes the behavior "okay" or "excusable."

Generations ago these young men would have been fighting for, and sometimes dying for the protection of these women. What happened?

In the absence of a common foe, we turn on ourselves?

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what we need is more involvement from men. seems the overall attitude is 'thats not my problem' or 'this doesn't concern me, i'm not a rapist!'.

guys, if you truly care about your mother, grandmothers, sisters, aunts, daughters, granddaughters, nieces and female cousins then yes-it is your problem and it does concern you! we need more of our brothers to be protectors. we need more of our brothers to take a stance against the rape of our women relatives!

i'm not pointing fingers, this is just a call for action, for a positive solution to prevention of this far too common crime.

I agree, too often sexual assault prevention is solely focused on the women, and that's understandable, but we really need to start talking to males, preferably before they become men about this. (And beyond No means No.)
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I agree, too often sexual assault prevention is solely focused on the women, and that's understandable, but we really need to start talking to males, preferably before they become men about this. (And beyond No means No.)
I agree with that! And I'm going to pick on Joe's Dad here. He is somebody that we can all agree is a nice guy with a good heart, right JD?

I believe that what might seem like a small thing to do could actually snowball into our ndn brothers taking a more supportive and protective role in our ndn communities across the nation.

For instance, and I'm speaking hypothetically here, if Joe's Dad were to simply state-'Enough is enough, this has got to stop!'. That there alone could be the snowball that once set in motion, could bring on a drastic decrease in the number of sexual assaults that men are committing against not only our ndn sisters, but our children as well.

Thank you I'm a Mutt for sending me a link, don't know how or even if I am able to copy and paste from my crackberry lol. The U.S. just passed legislation to help curtail the sexual abuse epidemic in ndn country, thanks to an Amnesty International report that was released dated April 24, 2007.

Its encouraging to see outside organizations and our government stepping in and saying 'We care and we want this to stop!'. It would be so much more encouraging to see our ndn brothers speaking up against this as well.
So JD (and other ndn brothers here as well) is there anything you would like to add?
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On the topic of more federal officers, we've had a boom of extra officers (mostly BLM and forest service officers) and it's been quite a shock.

They've gotten everybody scared to drive down the road (cuz our speed zones are so whacky), and have handed out many many traffic tickets, but this is not where the problem is.

We need officers that aren't scared to break up a teenage drinking party. We need officers that are going to investigate and break up the drug dealing networks. We need officers that are going to patrol where vandalizism and break-ins occur. Go ahead and have saturation check points, but quit harrassing innocent motorists and threatening them over possession of sage and cedar.
[SIZE="3"]I agree about the focus of enforcement. Too many officers use traffic violations as a chance to snoop around for drugs, cash from drug sales, etc.
Sometimes the officer does good and gets a bad guy wanted on a warrant, but the time taken to write a ticket to otherwise decent people is time away from looking for really bad guys.

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Beside sexual violence the domestic violence is UNREAL.

Just in the past few weeks I've heard about MORE young girls getting beat up by their young men than EVER!

Two of my daughters had boyfriends that battered them. I'm glad to say they're broke up now, but those guys are going to continue it on whatever woman they're with.

Several of their friends have been beaten up by their men and sought refuge with my daughters, bringing their kids along. If our community were to have a battered womens shelter, I'm sure it would have to be huge and it would be full to capacity all the time.

When my first ex-husband starting coming home drunk and trying to beat on me, I did what everybody said to do and left him. When my second (and last!) ex-husband started doing the same thing, I called the cops.

It took a few times and finally the courts here got their act together and he had to go to mandatory counseling, which was a joke to him, but they also hung a 6 month flat suspended sentence over him. That did the trick. It's amazing what a "go straight to jail, do not pass go" card will do.

Very few (maybe ONE) of the dozens of batterings I've heard about lately resulted in a visit by the cops. We need to educate our young ladies to NOT be scared to call the cops, no matter what, and no matter when.

It's ridiculous how there's a story in the papers now about a guy supposedly assaulted by 4 unknown men, but all along it was his wife defending herself when he was beating the hell out of her. But if the truth came out, he'd be violating his parole, so now we have 4 phantom assailants terrorizing the area. Puh-leaze!!!
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what happened to our brothers? is there no warrior left in you guys at all? it's sickening that i don't see enough of these 'good, strong ndn men' taking a stand against this. these are your sisters who are getting violated in the worst way at alarming rates and none of you guys have the guts to use your voices and speak up?

yeah i'm mad! but i suppose all you guys will do is jokingly call me a mean ndn woman then go about your day...
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Wow, IHS got an award from upping their screening of native women for domestic abuse from 25% to 48%. Geez, they screen everyone for tobacco and other stuff at each visit, can't they screen everyone for abuse.

Cuz I know sometimes it works the opposite way. My ex-autie-in-law was abusive to her man, and he just took it. She ended up stabbing him to death while he was sleeping.

Once in a great while, you hear about a woman being defended when she's getting beaten in front of other people, but not often enough. And these dudes' family and friends need to be telling them that this is NOT COOL, NOT RIGHT, and NOT LEGAL!
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what happened to our brothers? is there no warrior left in you guys at all? it's sickening that i don't see enough of these 'good, strong ndn men' taking a stand against this. these are your sisters who are getting violated in the worst way at alarming rates and none of you guys have the guts to use your voices and speak up?

yeah i'm mad! but i suppose all you guys will do is jokingly call me a mean ndn woman then go about your day...
Hey Grits & Beans!
I can't avoid sticking my head out (may be I should not, may be I'm doing yet another mistake, but what the heck!!!) I would like to re-act, but as a white-man, we are together in the fight this time, on the same side. I'm sorry to not see my red brothers on this thread!!! (Hit me if I say something I should not!!! )

Yes, why don't we get any reaction on this thread, is the subject to sensible? Why don't you get your arms and fight this evli as your ancestors was fighting the invasion of the white man? If you don't start to paint yours faces and fight, this will be another defeat to put on your list. The only difference is that this time your are on the loosing-side together with the white-man!!! This struggle is not only your struggle, it's the same struggle all around the world.

Your ancestors was attacked as a people, but this time, it's your family that is being attacked, the fundation of all human beings, red, white, black yelllow, you mention it! If we are not able to protect the family, we are in big trouble!!!

Put on your war-painting and fight!!!!
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thank you my norwegian friend. you are right, you speak from the heart which more than i can say about the brothers here. its heartbreaking but it can and must be stopped!
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Once in a great while, you hear about a woman being defended when she's getting beaten in front of other people, but not often enough. And these dudes' family and friends need to be telling them that this is NOT COOL, NOT RIGHT, and NOT LEGAL!
in my book that guy is a coward. any guy who raises his fist to a woman would not raise his fists to a man. i am not advocating violence just pointing out why i think a guy that beats women is a coward.

and i am fully supportive of my sisters defending themselves. forget that turn the other cheek and stand by your man nonsense, we've been doing that five hundred plus+ years now. stop thinking you are wrong and deserve this treatment, fight back. you don't have to put up with it, life is way too short for bullsh*t! fight back!!!
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