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Old 03-29-2005, 05:29 PM   #1
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David Yeagley at it Again...Red Lake VS Schiavo

Yeagley's at it again--bashing Lumbees too...


Whining "Indians" Exploit Terri Schiavo
By David Yeagley
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 29, 2005

Indians are more pitiful than a helpless, dying woman. He complains that President Bush lavished attention on Terri Schiavo, but paid none to the tragedy of Red Lake. Bellecourt has reached new depths of moral depravity, and has disgraced beyond description the honor and pride of Indian people.

Last Friday, March 25, he told the Washington Post, "When people's children are murdered and others are in the hospital hanging on to life, he [Bush] should be the first one to offer his condolences...If this was a white community, I don't think he'd have any problem doing that." Bellecourt said, "The so-called Great White Father in Washington hasn't said or done a thing."


Clyde Bellecourt thinks Indians deserve more pity than the dying woman (and possible murder victim), Terri Schiavo. According to the liberal distortions of the Washington Post, Bellecourt is not alone.


"Native Americans across the country-including tribal leaders, academics and rank-and-file tribe members-voiced anger and frustration Thursday that President Bush has responded to the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history with silence," reads Ceci Connolly's opening line.



"Across the country" is a stretch and creates a false impression of Indian people. Connolly quotes but five people besides Bellecourt, and only one of those is identified as "Indian" in the article (and that one is dubious). David Wilkins is interim chairman of the Department of American Indian Studies at the University of Minnesota, is identified as a member of the North Carolina-based Lumbee "tribe." This is the mulatto group never recognized by the United States federal government as an Indian "tribe." Wilkins is as likely Indian as Ward Churchill, and his concerns are just as fabricated and academic, politically and professionally.


It is prejudicial stereotyping to presume everyone working for Indians is an Indian. Many are white liberals, trying to shape the American Indian image into the effeminate wet noodle that Bellecourt loves - professional "girly men."


However, there's no denying that Indians everywhere have expressed mourning and regret over the Red Lake shooting. The long trains of funeral cars and the gathering of families show a shared reaction of sorrow from all Indians.


Yet even in this, the language used by liberal Indians in the media reflect the attitude of pity-mongering, as if Indians are dependent on national media for validation. We can term this the Bellecourt Syndrome.


I look at the lines of cars making their way to the funerals of the victims; I see the crowds gathered in mourning, and I ask, "Where were you when the Indian young people needed you? Where was your devotion when the youth were desperate for your attention?"


The attention you lavish now, though traditional, though appropriate, is completely hollow. It not only has no effect on the dead, it also has none on the young people currently living. It does not change a single thing on the reservation in the relationships between Indian "leaders," parents, or youth in all of Indian country.


The pathetic, writhing appeal to national media and the president is the egregious pretense of professional leftists - Indian and white - and displays the most nauseating weakness ever associated with a people. We, once the brave warriors, are made into nave slaves of the news. We have become the lowest of the low, the prince of spiritual paupers.


While the leftists are trying to find a way to blame whites, some Indians blame Indian country itself. Navajo Nation President Joe Shirley Jr. says the tragedy stems from "the loss of tribal culture." David Anderson (Ojibwe) says "hopelessness and despair on reservations are to blame for poor student achievement," and avers, "schools, parents and tribes need to work together to instill a sense of success among Native youth."


But how can tribal culture be preserved when low-end pop culture, such as rap and hip-hop, gangs, drug dealers, and casino swindlers are either ignored or praised by so-called Indian leaders and invited onto the reservation?


How can Indian leaders instill a sense of success among Native youth when the Bellecourt bellyachers preach discontent, broadcast juvenile resentment and anger, and set the example of perpetual immaturity?


How can Indian parents expect to help our youth when parents are drunk, drugged, or otherwise absent from the home?


It takes a warrior, a responsible person, to be a parent. There are few warriors left in Indian country. All that we hear is the emasculated whining of the Bellecourt crowd, who think Indians deserve more pity than a helpless, dying woman in a Florida hospice.

Dr. David A. Yeagley is a published scholar, professionally recorded composer, and an adjunct professor at the University of Oklahoma College of Liberal Studies. He's on the speakers list of Young America's Foundation.

E-mail him at [email protected]. View his website at http://www.badeagle.com.
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Old 03-29-2005, 07:15 PM   #2
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what an idiot

i like some of this guy's ideas but he is so "ward churchill-like" on this column it is not even funny - and, don't get me started on how ill-informed & ignorant his comments on lumbees are - wow, he has the audacity to compare michael wilkins to ward churchill? let's see, michael was born & raised in an indian community, is married to an indian woman, has indian children, & to top it all off has dedicated his life's work to affirming and teaching about native cultures - and his concerns are fabricated? that is hilarious and infuriating at the same time

what IS funny is that a guy who was not even raised or socialized indian thinks he has all the answers for indian people
yes, we have problems that need to be addressed; yes, indian people factor into their problems; but don't divide us with inappropriate rhetoric; don't make blanket statements about how there are "FEW" warriors left; don't paint us as pitiful and naive slaves of the media; unite us and pledge to work for your people, not merely observe (critically & negatively) from the sidelines

granted, i'm no bellecourt/aim follower or supporter and maybe bellecourt does do things in a self-serving agenda kind of way

but, from the looks/reads of yeagley, his MO resembles bellecourt's
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I think that the shooting in Red Lake did need more attention...the Shaivo case is personal..where this shooting affects a whole society...dang stay outta the Schaivo family business, a family case...thats how I feel..
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I wish they would let this rest

Boozhoo niji,

I am not surprised to hear about this. But I live down here in Florida, and its like we are forced by the media to hear about Schivos case on a daily/hourly basis. I feel for the poor woman, I really do. No one should ever have to be put through what she has. Then on top of everything else the media has to make a circus about it. Bad thing is, they basically said the same thing over and over, until she finally crossed over.

I am not supporting or denying this claim, I am only stating the fact that Bush is an ignorant white man that seems to have his priorities and ducks in a row to suit his own wishes. I sure didnt vote for him

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But how can tribal culture be preserved when low-end pop culture, such as rap and hip-hop, gangs, drug dealers, and casino swindlers are either ignored or praised by so-called Indian leaders and invited onto the reservation?

How can Indian parents expect to help our youth when parents are drunk, drugged, or otherwise absent from the home?

damn that dude is an idiot. once again people blaming music or other things on a person's actions. but it does piss me off that bush took so long to say sumthin..rite when wats her name died he spoke immediatly...he's an ***....but i guess it didnt surprise me....i forgot where i seen it but i guess he's gonna cut (im not sure so dont take my word) but 100(million or billion) dollars that goes towards american indian programs....yea he really carez about nativez
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David Yeagley you're a wiener.

Ms. Shiavo's parent...you people were selfish to keep her here as long as you did. Shame on you. (this is speaking from family experience that seen both sides of the situation)

Red Lake...you've suffered a very tragic event which has directly effected my family. Dash Lussier...you were one of my husband's favorite uncles. I believe the people of the Red Lake Nation are handling this hard situation extremely well. Even though the family doesn't live in Minnesota we are behind you 100%.
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damn that dude is an idiot. once again people blaming music or other things on a person's actions. but it does piss me off that bush took so long to say sumthin..rite when wats her name died he spoke immediatly...he's an ***....but i guess it didnt surprise me....i forgot where i seen it but i guess he's gonna cut (im not sure so dont take my word) but 100(million or billion) dollars that goes towards american indian programs....yea he really carez about nativez
I have sen this topic come up not only here but in other forums...
How Hip hop culture affects our Native youth today...

Okay... Kids are KIDS... No matter what color creed or religion.. they are going to do what mainstream society deems to be cool the IN thing to do.. And we ALL know that Teens are major targets of all commercial industries because they have the most DISPOSABLE income out of any age group in society.

So with that said... DO we blame the hip hop rappers? Do we blame the Advertisers OR Do we blame the Parents that GIVE thier kids the money, usually its at least 100 dollars to GO buy the Hip hop clothes ( gangsta style gear) and it is WE as the PARENTS that say YES and give our apporval when our kids DO choose to buy such CDs, clothes & Bandanas.
I Know many Native Parents On welfare that will hand thier kids money so thier kids can go shopping and buy the 150 dollar gangsta style baggy hip hop jeans and the bling bling... Why do the parents do this?? becasue they dont want thier kids to get teased at school fer being on welfare so they gotta looka as tho they arent. This goes the same with working class folk.. giving kids the mney and allowing the kid to decide how that money is spent.

I just think that if parents are So concerned whether thier child is losing thier cultural identity and that they are turning into the gansta style kid without realizing the consequences than it is the parents responsibility to step in and say NO...
you sit your child down and explain to them WHY yo dont agree. I had to sit down with my kid at one point and explain to her that her style of dress although it wasnt HER intention, gave off a misinterpretation of her. the way she dressed was very much affliated with things that society didnt always accept. Once she had time to think about it and understand and look at what i was tryin to say to her, her mode of dress changed.. not all at once but it changed.. same thing went with the jelly braclets... the colored ones.. which are actually sex toys... Upon ME finding out this information i took away the jelly braclets from my girls explained WHY i didnt like them

***Some type of jelly bracletes are sex games... each color of a braclet represents a sex act that youre willing to do,
there was a case of a young 13 year old girl that was raped by her classmates (boys) Because of the braclets... she wore a color and they Assumed that she was into it... her so called friends told her she had to preform certain sexual acts... and FORCED her.... holding her head and hair while the boys all lined up... there were 10 boys... *** The poor gilr onyl wore the braclets becasue she saw the popular kids wear them and of course her mom had no Idea what they were... they look harmless.

I explained to my girls that i trusted that they were not aware of this as was the young girl that got raped but I also explained that YOUNG boys are fully aware and when they see them they assume...Well My girls will not wear the braclets anymore, My 14 year old had gotten them banned at her school... after she explained to her teacher what they were, the school had a meeting and made that decision which i think it was a good one.

So my point is that NO we cannot pass blame to the artists and advertisers.. BUT we ourselves as parents becasue in the end we are the ones that ALLOW our children to wear what they wear... we contribute to thier purchases by giving them money... and allowing them to freely shop on thier own.
Too many parents are so quick to claim "Oh Not my kid".. "My kid would never do that!!!" Or "its not my Kids fault that it happened"... Hmmm turning blind eyes are NOT helping our youth... if your concerned you have the power as a parent to stop it and educate your children

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same thing went with the jelly braclets... the colored ones.. which are actually sex toys... Upon ME finding out this information i took away the jelly braclets from my girls explained WHY i didnt like them
***Some type of jelly bracletes are sex games... each color of a braclet represents a sex act that youre willing to do,
That is krazy...i've never hurd of those before. Ok here i go...I'm 19 years old and live in denver...lets say not the better side of denver. I have an older sister who is 35 now but when she was younger she listened to rap and rnb, so thats what i grew up listening to. The way teenagers and young adults dress these days does have alot to do with the music industry...and most of the time we are frowned upon for dressing the way we dress. That is the way we express ourselves and who we are. In my opinion i dont think young peoples culture and styles will never be accepted.

Just because a teenage guy dresses in baggy pants or bandana doesnt necessarily make him a gangsta or drug dealer. That is his style of dress, that is who he is. I mean i'd probably think that he was dressing gang-related too but people have to learn that they cant judge people right away just from their appearence. I'm sure people that are older went through the same thing when they were our ages. So i would think that they would understand more?

I dont think that the way young native people dress and the music they listen to is the reason for losing thier cultural identity. I have many family and friends who dress "gangsta" and who listen to rap but they know who they are and where they come from. Yes, there are people who do mess it up for the rest of us...but not everyone is like that. Myself, all I listen to is rap...but wen people first meet me, I bet you they have no clue.

I don't know if this is all making sense but ne ways it goes back to what happened in redlake. Ok a kid that was into the goth culture commits a horrible event. Right away people said oh its cuz he was goth. But when we started learning more and more about this kid, we realized that he had very deep emotional problems and then people felt bad for the kid. The point? People assumed right away that he did this cuz he was goth. People are still ignorant and believe stereotypes

People just need to stay in touch with there kids, lucky for me i come from a very supportive family and im not saying im perfect but i am a pretty good person. My mom always is telling me and my siblings to stay away from all that but yet i have given in to peer pressure, but at least i am smart enuff to kno that i did wrong. Thats not my mom's fault tho. No it wasn't music or ne thing else that pressured me to do whatever i did. It was my choice, my mistake. Not because my favorite artist was rappin' about smokin or drinkin. Because like i said it was my choice. But society continues to blame music and video games for other peoples mistakes. Yes at times it could be the parents fault for not keepin in tune with there kid but then also people realize that maybe it is just that person him/herself. Parents cant always blame themselves or people blaming the parents.

Ne ways to end this all if it even made sense, is let your kid be who they wanna be....i mean if they wanna dress gangsta or goth or whatever let them because that is wat their style is. People say that nativez and other minorities "act black" but these days that comment is ignorant. That is our style, our culture, the hip-hop culture which is universal.
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