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Old 02-25-2008, 07:38 PM   #41
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Read what the Local Paper says

I read through all the posts to this on the local paper
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Its ripping through that town
Lots of Racial tensions there
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How do you feel the school board has handled the video incident? | Fort Frances Times Online

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Truly sorry | Fort Frances Times Online
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this all brings to mind the lethbridge tim hortons/teenager/sign incident, at some point in peoples lives that people have to take full responsibility for their actions - however harsh they may be.

this is a very ignorant thing to do no matter how anyone looks at it - i am sure every power that be would jump on a group of african american or native american teens video taped themselves - recreating an a sacred "caucasian" ceremony with wine bottles in hand and posted it one youtube.

these girls knew exactly what they were doing - they knew how racist it would be and how funny it would be for their fellow racist friends to view and agree with them - they are only sorry they got caught.

they probably thought all us stupid indians wouldnt have youtube on the reserves or wouldnt know how to do anything about it.
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I have a copy of the video, but can't decide whether I should post it or not.

What do you all think?
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I have a copy of the video, but can't decide whether I should post it or not.

What do you all think?
Post it. I think it is better to expose this kind of stuff than try to hide it. I know there were some comments here that it should be taken down. I feel the opposite very strongly.

It should not be embarrassing to us, it should be (and is) embarrassing to the people in the video, their parents and their community.

There exists an environment where this type of thing gets swept under the rug by the non-abo community and we the Anishinaabe are just as guilty of doing the same thing. Time to stop covering up this kind of crap and expose it to the light of day.

check out racewatch.braveblog.com for more info.
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No matter what the circumstance folks don't realize or understand the consequence. Keeping in mind there is whole lot of respect out there, and unfortunately a whole lot of disrespect too....I suppose if one has no respect for themself or one iota of a clue what their culture is why would they, or how would they respect someone elses? It sure would be nice to see their dance steps now.....Now heres the kicker.....Will they learn from it or even care?
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I just watched the video and agree with chazziff. It seemed to me they knew about certain things and thought it would be funny to mock it. It looked deliberate and cowardly IMHO. Not funny at all, not even cute.....I think they are just sorry for being caught.

(insert big, heavy sigh here) Because I really have nothing to add.
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You know I hate to say it but maybe these girls have seen, or experienced a 49. Out this way people don't think twice about bringing out a drum, granted it's a funtime drum, but a drum none the less.

Lots of ignorant people in the world.
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you brought up an interesting point soopa....well to me anyway...*L*.....like you said, have these girls seen or experienced a 49???....so wouldn't it like fall back on us????....you know the saying Monkey see, monkey do???? maybe they saw some Natives out there acting in this fashion and deemed it acceptable....I mean, if the Indians are doing, it must be alright, right????....it's like the same arguement of calling a black person a ni**er....they call themselves that, so why can't we call them that???? Granted not all do, but mainstream society deems it acceptable so it's accepted....
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Post it. I think it is better to expose this kind of stuff than try to hide it. I know there were some comments here that it should be taken down. I feel the opposite very strongly.

It should not be embarrassing to us, it should be (and is) embarrassing to the people in the video, their parents and their community.

There exists an environment where this type of thing gets swept under the rug by the non-abo community and we the Anishinaabe are just as guilty of doing the same thing. Time to stop covering up this kind of crap and expose it to the light of day.

check out racewatch.braveblog.com for more info.

Just to clarify--I hope nobody thought my comment about ignoring these drunks means I want it swept under the rug. I just meant I personally don't want to watch it. But I'm all for racists being held down and forced to see themselves.

And also, Hate groups seem better at using the net than some others. I'm all for good folks sharing their outrage.
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Stupid little fools. That is just sick. I think I may possibly lose my lunch. I have white friends who have been to powwows with me, but you would never catch them dead doing this. There is no excuse for it. They said they weren't trying to offend anyone, but I believe they're lying. Being a high school girl myself, I am nearly certain that they did this out of racism and hate. They knew exactly what they were doing, if not when they were drunk and making the video, but at least when they knowingly posted it to YouTube. If they lived a lil closer to me, I would be kicking some white racist butt all over the floor.
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I love drunk white college girls!!!

but seriously, it was stupid..... I remember seeing a video on youtube of a bunch of NDN guys doing the same thing. Anyone know where that one is.
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is this the same video i read was pulled? is it back? or did i read wrong?
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is this the same video i read was pulled? is it back? or did i read wrong?
Paul G posted it again on here
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looked like a white 49 to me, from what I can remember lol could cut a lil rug while dancin at a 49. not defendin just reflectin lol.
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You know I hate to say it but maybe these girls have seen, or experienced a 49. Out this way people don't think twice about bringing out a drum, granted it's a funtime drum, but a drum none the less.

Lots of ignorant people in the world.
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you brought up an interesting point soopa....well to me anyway...*L*.....like you said, have these girls seen or experienced a 49???....so wouldn't it like fall back on us????....you know the saying Monkey see, monkey do???? maybe they saw some Natives out there acting in this fashion and deemed it acceptable....I mean, if the Indians are doing, it must be alright, right????....it's like the same arguement of calling a black person a ni**er....they call themselves that, so why can't we call them that???? Granted not all do, but mainstream society deems it acceptable so it's accepted....
Whew, never seen 'such' a 49er, still I think it's possible you're right.

But to me it's just not o.k. at all, and at that age they all should have known what they were doing at that certain moment, especially when they uploaded their video. They can hardly stay drunk all the time ;-), and to me alcohol is not an excuse, just a booster or trigger as I said before. They knew this video is 'something special' and 'tough' I a$$-u-me. Otherwise they would not have given it to youtube. Do I make sense? Even my 9 year old boy laughed at first, but then stopped laughing and looked confused and somewhat sad. Those girls are older than 9! White or Ndn doesn't matter - we are not going to be racist either, are we. Certain things deserve respect, no matter what.
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