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Old 12-29-2008, 08:40 PM   #101
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im sorry tk but i think it was right. the name should have never had medicine in it maybe minty fresh.. the word medicine alone to me means sacred..the people probably thought they were getting sacred items from a medicine man and probably paying double what they would have paid another trader to find out hes only a herbalist.
sorry if im wrong but i put it into perspective and thats what i got out of that.
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Old 12-30-2008, 05:21 PM   #102
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im sorry tk but i think it was right. the name should have never had medicine in it maybe minty fresh.. the word medicine alone to me means sacred..the people probably thought they were getting sacred items from a medicine man and probably paying double what they would have paid another trader to find out hes only a herbalist.
sorry if im wrong but i put it into perspective and thats what i got out of that.
His prices were no more then any other vendor at powwows selling the same stuff. Sometimes even less. He also had a sign stating that he was an herbalist and when asked if he was a real medicine man, he stated "no, just a herbalist". He never tried to put on the scam and they ran him out anyway.

He was run off the circuit because people didn't have the ballz to just ask or check him out. They just assumed as many do without any real facts. Pure buffalo crap and gossip!
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:47 AM   #103
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tk ive said it befor and ill say it again im sorry...i did not have all of the facts and i should not have posted without all of them...although i thought i did...
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There is proof, several traditional people & the US Fish & Wildlife Service looked into his NDN claim- no one found him registered anywhere. The US Fish & Wildlife service was interested because Richard & one of his brothers were convicted of shooting eagles & hawks & selling thier feather/parts & went to prison for it.There was an article in News from Indian country or Indian Country- can't remember wich publication.
ALSO I was lokking up Navajo Medicine men on Google & found this interesting 'New Ager' site gushing about how a Navajo medicine man is coming to visit them in PA, note the prices they are charging!!! OMG does anyone 'not' get it?????
Esteemed traditional Navajo Medicine Man - Ancient Joy Spirituality (Valley Forge, PA) - Meetup.com
OK if there is positive proof, 86 the guy and call it good!

Another one bites the dust!

Forget the 86. That's to final. Let him live and we will remind him everyday!
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tk ive said it befor and ill say it again im sorry...i did not have all of the facts and i should not have posted without all of them...although i thought i did...
No need to say sorry. It's your oponion in opened discussion. Our ancestors always allowed everyone to speak on a matter without retrubution in all fairness. No reason to change now.
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k ty the last thing i want to do is pee someone off.
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k ty the last thing i want to do is pee someone off.
Now what could you do to pee me off?

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Years ago I read one of Lynn Andrews books. Stupid stupid stupid. The farther into the book I got, the more ridiculous it became. I couldn't even finish it and was angry that a person who claims these things to be truth, was obviously lying for a buck. How is that any different from our politicians in office for example? Atleast we know the politicians are lying. I'd love to see every last one of her books pulled off the shelves and her seminars to stop.
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Some more interesting sites I found pertaining to this thread topic.

New Age (and Other) Ripoff Sites

Our Red Earth - American Indian Activism And Civil Rights

Spiritual Commodification and Misappropriation

Crystal Spirit Wolf Runner

Lisa Aldred - Plastic Shamans and Astroturf Sun Dances: New Age Commercialization of Native American Spirituality - American Indian Quarterly 24:3

Plastic shaman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

American Indian Cultural Support main page

Deer Tribe Metis Medicine Society (DTMMS)

Star Spider Dancing

Channeling, Mediumship, Spirit Guides

Yunsai Society, White Buffalo Society, Medicine Society Grandmother Parisha

IT IS TIME TO PREPARE THERE IS S

Rainbow Eagle: Seventh Fire Peace Shield Teacher

Rainbow

White Buffalo Lodge - Healing, Spiritual Development & Teaching Center - Ron "WILLOW" O'Berry, Pawtucket, RI

Brooke Medicine Eagle

Mary Thunder Home Page
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New Age (and Other) Ripoff Sites

Our Red Earth - American Indian Activism And Civil Rights

Spiritual Commodification and Misappropriation

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Lisa Aldred - Plastic Shamans and Astroturf Sun Dances: New Age Commercialization of Native American Spirituality - American Indian Quarterly 24:3

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American Indian Cultural Support main page

Deer Tribe Metis Medicine Society (DTMMS)

Star Spider Dancing

Channeling, Mediumship, Spirit Guides

Yunsai Society, White Buffalo Society, Medicine Society Grandmother Parisha

IT IS TIME TO PREPARE THERE IS S

Rainbow Eagle: Seventh Fire Peace Shield Teacher

Rainbow

White Buffalo Lodge - Healing, Spiritual Development & Teaching Center - Ron "WILLOW" O'Berry, Pawtucket, RI

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Mary Thunder Home Page
WoW! What a mess!

If I start my own website for NDN stuff, can I be the keeper of the sacred drum microphone?????

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If I start my own website for NDN stuff, can I be the keeper of the sacred drum microphone?????

Hey - I've even sang on them microphones - theys sure is good sounded!
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Hey - I've even sang on them microphones - theys sure is good sounded!
Yep! I took your voice and put it in a coffee can! Or was that you trying to get out of that empty coffee can?

That was a fun demo CD we made. I should put a little powwow coffee on the forum for everyone's listening pleasure and a good laugh!

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Yep! I took your voice and put it in a coffee can! Or was that you trying to get out of that empty coffee can?

That was a fun demo CD we made. I should put a little powwow coffee on the forum for everyone's listening pleasure and a good laugh!

Love ya Kamama and that big lug of an NDN guy you got!
Haha, Danny actually got me a new studio thingie to put on my other computer for Christmas. Its pretty decent, not as nice as your studio, but, its not bad.
I'm gonna try to make a CD up sometime soon I think. See how it goes.
haha, Pow Wow Coffee, that'll be my one hit wonder dunno if Im ready for everyone to hear me yet though.
hopefully we'll see you sometime soon.
Love you guys, hug that wifey and kiddie of yours for me!
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Haha, Danny actually got me a new studio thingie to put on my other computer for Christmas. Its pretty decent, not as nice as your studio, but, its not bad.
I'm gonna try to make a CD up sometime soon I think. See how it goes.
haha, Pow Wow Coffee, that'll be my one hit wonder dunno if Im ready for everyone to hear me yet though.
hopefully we'll see you sometime soon.
Love you guys, hug that wifey and kiddie of yours for me!
Well well well.........
Not ready?????????????

What is it worth to you for me Not to post it?

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uht oooooooh...

lol

tkmj an kamama hijacked the thread

tsk tsk

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uht oooooooh...

lol

tkmj an kamama hijacked the thread

tsk tsk

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I thought the article below titled Medicine Wheelers and Dealers- by Bernard C. Perley, would be of interest to the topic of this thread. It was taken from the following source:

Spirit Wars - Native North American Religions in the Age of Nation Building, by Ronald Niezen, University of California Press: Berkeley, CA, 2000.



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What is it worth to you for me Not to post it?

(hint.....think fry bread)

I know a good fry bread maker..... he might be a medicine man LOLOLOL


Historian, interesting article, I have to chuckle though...cigarettes as smudging. haha.
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