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Old 01-02-2012, 11:24 PM   #481
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Act like you have some Sense.

I just answered that. However I have zero idea why you keep saying Negro lol

Seriously, act like you have some sense. Do you need glasses? Or do you need someone in your house to come and help you understand english? Do I have to type slower to you?
I'm just wondering if you're from the lineage of the John Jeffries listed here.

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the funnier part is, federal native Americans wearing glass beads and saying those beads are native american. Glass beads was brought here from european areas. The REAL beads native americans used was shell. And for North Carolina, and Virginia, the only 2 colors we really used was Red and blue.

Or here is a even funnier thing, Federal tribes saying they have lived in the one area they are in for over 6000 years, that one always makes me laugh so hard, since the the bones found in their areas that are older than 6000 years do not show any resemblence to them, that one always cracks me up LMAO.
You forgot that beads are sort of the replacement for QUILLs, which some tribes have been doing for a very long time, especially before the era of beads.

Finding bones in an area doesn't prove that the bones were from something that actually inhabited that area... The Royal Python that I had years ago who died is burried in my back yard, so are you suggesting that in the future people will dig it up and say "WOW I found the bones of a royal python here in the US so that must mean that it lived here and not other species." LOL. I'm sure if you fig around in Russia you will find the bones are someone from China - people walked around it doesn't mean that the area was inhabited by Chinese.
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LMAO hillarious, now your saying I dye my hair, that is seriously hillarious hahahaha Let me guess you have blonde hair and jealous of my hair now lol. Seriously hahaha

I'm not the one who runs lol

You must be really mad you can't disprove me, and I've totally destroyed every thing you tried to use on me...must suck huh lol
LMAO--jealous, not even. You had blonde hair a few years ago when I saw your picture and so did your mom You were on here before remember trying to say how you and your mom look NDN. I can't remember if you posted the pic here or if I saw it on one of the other forums you used to be on. Might have been NDNs dot com. Can't really remember, but I sure could find out if I had to, but not really worth it. Just remember what you look like. And NO I'm not blonde at all. My hair is all natural.

No not mad at all, found them on all 3 census. Tomas (he went by Thomas J. Teal) married Ozie about 1906, they were living in Paulding County in 1910, 1920 and 1930. Sudie was born about 1909, according to the 1910 census. And the whole family was listed as "White" on all three census' including Ozie, still don't have her maiden name for sure, yet. You say Petty. Might be. But have where his parents are buried and other stuff. Will get back to you on the rest. But for 30 years, federally, they claimed to be "White". Yeah, okay sure whatever you say.LOL
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Still don't understand the terms, peered reviewed sources and primary sources. Youtube is not a primary source. Those links are editorials and opinions pieces.

Strange how back in 1740 in SC, there was a clear distinction between Indian and Negro, Mulatto and Mestizo. They even drew the difference of other Africans such as Egyptians, Moors and Asiatics.

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CHAPTER I.

The Status of the Negro, his Rights and Disabilities.

Section 1. The Act of 1740, sec. I, declares all negroes and
Indians, (free Indians in amity with this Government, negroes, mu- p. ^
lattoes and mestizoes, who now are free, excepted) to be slaves: "^^^^
the offspring to follow the condition of the mother: and that such
slaves are chattels personal.

Sec. 2. Under this provision it has been uniformly held, that color
is prima facie evidence, that the party bearing the color of a negro. Hard
mulatto or mestizo, is a slave : but the same prima facie result does ^^^
not follow from the Indian color. ^J^^

Sec. 3. Indians, and descendants of Indians are regarded as free
Indians, in amity with this government, until the contrary be shown. ^ ..
In the second proviso of sec. 1, of the Act of 1740, it is declared son
that " every negro, Indian, mulatto and mestizo is a slave unless 174.
the contrary can be made to appear" yet, in the same it is immedi- mon*
ately thereafter provided " the Indians in amity with this govern- Jg^l'
ment, excepted, in which case the burden of proof shall lie on the ^u^
defendant," that is, on the person claiming the Indian plaintiff to be
a slave. This latter clause of the proviso is now regarded as furnish-
ing the ruie< The race of slave Indians, or of Indians not in amity
to this government, (the State,) is extinct, and hence the previous
part of the proviso has no application.

Sec. 4. The term negro is confined to slave Africans, (the ancient ^J^'p,
Berbers) and their descendants. It does not embrace the free in- J?
habitants of Africa, such as the Egyptians, Moors, or the negro MUi.
Asiatics, such as the Lascars.
The Negro Law of South Carolina [microform] / collected and digested by John Belton O'Neall (1793-1865) Columbia : printed by John G. Bowman, 1848. 56 p. ; 23 cm.
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Jealous of what lol If I wanted government money I would just apply for government money, Guess what I had ALL my college schooling paid for and guess what, did not have a thing to do with native ancestry, because you see, the government has this thing where ALL citizens can apply for scholarships, college grants, small business loans, food asistance, medical assistance, etc...and all this has not one thing to do with Native ancestry. Here si the kicker, you can do all this just for being a citizen of the united states. WOW guess you did not know that huh.

Oh and spirit guides and Totem poles etc etc....ummm this is the east coast not west coast.

Now you saying jealous etc, wow looks like you may be talking about the CNO, since they love going out and attacking ANY native americans that does not have recognigtion. And oh yea, did I mention the Federal cherokee wants exclusive rights to Casinos and gambling in north Carolina and don't want any other tribes in nc to be allowed to have rights to casinos or gambling even if those other tribes aquire Federal recognigtion. They also get all mad when the Lumbee have a chance at federal recognigtion. Now thats what is called jealous.

I also have always had a chance to enroll in state recognized tribes, eyt have I? Nope I sure have not. If I was all into wanting recognigtion then I would just get it, simple as that, but I have not.

So next time try to come at me with something more real.
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LMAO--jealous, not even. You had blonde hair a few years ago when I saw your picture and so did your mom You were on here before remember trying to say how you and your mom look NDN. I can't remember if you posted the pic here or if I saw it on one of the other forums you used to be on. Might have been NDNs dot com. Can't really remember, but I sure could find out if I had to, but not really worth it. Just remember what you look like. And NO I'm not blonde at all. My hair is all natural.

No not mad at all, found them on all 3 census. Tomas (he went by Thomas J. Teal) married Ozie about 1906, they were living in Paulding County in 1910, 1920 and 1930. Sudie was born about 1909, according to the 1910 census. And the whole family was listed as "White" on all three census' including Ozie, still don't have her maiden name for sure, yet. You say Petty. Might be. But have where his parents are buried and other stuff. Will get back to you on the rest. But for 30 years, federally, they claimed to be "White". Yeah, okay sure whatever you say.LOL
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Still don't understand the terms, peered reviewed sources and primary sources. Youtube is not a primary source. Those links are editorials and opinions pieces.

Strange how back in 1740 in SC, there was a clear distinction between Indian and Negro, Mulatto and Mestizo. They even drew the difference of other Africans such as Egyptians, Moors and Asiatics.



The Negro Law of South Carolina [microform] / collected and digested by John Belton O'Neall (1793-1865) Columbia : printed by John G. Bowman, 1848. 56 p. ; 23 cm.


So ECSN, are you from a lineage of a black man and a white woman?
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Here is a fun fact, Racoon is a native American word, one of the first native words the English wrote down in america. Some say first recorded by joh smith, however there is references to the word being used by the hatteras tribe in the 1580's.
Yet, you ignore that John Cabot (for the English - he was granted his letters of patent in 1496 by Henry VII of England) was here in 1497 and founding a colony by Fr. Giovanni Antonio de Carbonariis by 1500. Do you honestly think raccoon was the first word taken back to England?

H.P. Biggar (ed.), The Precursors of Jacques Cartier, 1497-1534: a collection of documents relating to the early history of the dominion of Canada (Ottawa, 1911).

J.A. Williamson, The Cabot Voyages and Bristol Discovery Under Henry VII (Hakluyt Society, Second Series, No. 120, CUP, 1962).
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the funnier part is, federal native Americans wearing glass beads and saying those beads are native american. Glass beads was brought here from european areas. The REAL beads native americans used was shell. And for North Carolina, and Virginia, the only 2 colors we really used was Red and blue.

Or here is a even funnier thing, Federal tribes saying they have lived in the one area they are in for over 6000 years, that one always makes me laugh so hard, since the the bones found in their areas that are older than 6000 years do not show any resemblence to them, that one always cracks me up LMAO.
So now just because someone buys and uses glass beads means that they cease to be Native?? WTF?! Its called ADAPTATION, which is apart of SURVIVAL!! Practically, every culture/tribe/people that has made it into the 21 century has had to substitute something for another! Gah, reminds me of that stupid Wikipedia article for Native American Beadwork.
So what do you suggest people do; drill their own beads out of shells and bones, then paint them by hand? You're so dense!
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You probably have a rogue virus - usually presents itself as a legit antivirus when it's really fake. It tells you things that are false. They are hard to get rid of...

Hmmm this is beginning to sound familiar; hopefully people HERE catch my drift.

People don't hack into your computer to install spyware and junk, they don't have to when you open the back door for them by clicking on a dirty link, or visit a site with a contaminated ad or image or over all just bad. This happens a lot by accident, as they are disguised to look legit. The other way they get in is through illegally downloaded media or software.
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So, ESPN, are you using Dragon or a similar program because you seem to type / write as you probably speak? This seems evident by the fact that you have been regularly using the interjection "ummmm".

Look, I don' don't claim to be great at English either. In fact I suck at writing and I abuse run-on sentences frequently; my college professors hated reading my papers of it... Oh well I'm a technician and not a writer. The point is, even though I may not be a great writer, I still know how to use the correctly words like - them, they, are, is, was, where, were, that, those, also how to pluralize words correctly.
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LMAO--jealous, not even. You had blonde hair a few years ago when I saw your picture and so did your mom You were on here before remember trying to say how you and your mom look NDN. I can't remember if you posted the pic here or if I saw it on one of the other forums you used to be on. Might have been NDNs dot com. Can't really remember, but I sure could find out if I had to, but not really worth it. Just remember what you look like. And NO I'm not blonde at all. My hair is all natural.

No not mad at all, found them on all 3 census. Tomas (he went by Thomas J. Teal) married Ozie about 1906, they were living in Paulding County in 1910, 1920 and 1930. Sudie was born about 1909, according to the 1910 census. And the whole family was listed as "White" on all three census' including Ozie, still don't have her maiden name for sure, yet. You say Petty. Might be. But have where his parents are buried and other stuff. Will get back to you on the rest. But for 30 years, federally, they claimed to be "White". Yeah, okay sure whatever you say.LOL

Blonde hair....what drugs are you on hahahahahahahahaha

Not one one person in my family or my ancestors ever had blonde hair...you done bumped your head hhahahahaha

I've already posted the family photos idiot lol you know what, for fun I think I'll post Ozie's family photo again lol

You forget that "indian" could not legally own land in Georgia till recently.

And Ozie's real name is Ozella, but guess what, I have already posted her name and her family info.

Here is Ozie's family photo taken in Paulding county Ga, Quilla Petty is in the back row.



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Still don't understand the terms, peered reviewed sources and primary sources. Youtube is not a primary source. Those links are editorials and opinions pieces.

Strange how back in 1740 in SC, there was a clear distinction between Indian and Negro, Mulatto and Mestizo. They even drew the difference of other Africans such as Egyptians, Moors and Asiatics.



The Negro Law of South Carolina [microform] / collected and digested by John Belton O'Neall (1793-1865) Columbia : printed by John G. Bowman, 1848. 56 p. ; 23 cm.
The federally recognized Catawba tribe of south carolina was listed as free person of color also.
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