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Old 01-04-2012, 04:26 PM   #621
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Kentucky has given recognition to groups that are not even in the state of Kentucky, Georgia is another state that gives recognition to about anyone who applies.

There are a couple of guys from Indiana who made up a "honor ride" across the eastern states, this happened about ten years ago, they claimed to be raising funds for a Indian holiday... they raised over 100k but no one knows where they money went. The money was never accounted for... the ride was two white guys wearing fringed clothing, one guy put black paint across his eyes and looked like a raccoon....

There are people out there who honestly, with all their hearts believe they are Indian. Family stories mostly, some make up stuff and become pretendian over night, some do it for interest in the culture, and some do it to feel "special" and then there are those who are out to rip off people...

These people who rip off others wind up getting away with it, and the real Indian people are left to be blamed

Most state recognition groups are nothing more than jokes.
Are you stating 'groups', or state recognized 'tribes'. North Carolina comes to mind. Are there 'state recognized groups' in Missouri? Are there legitimate 'state recognized tribes' in Missouri?

Isn't Zeke from Missouri?
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Old 01-04-2012, 04:31 PM   #622
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i don't know a lot, im just standing near the window where the light is strong, to borrow a verse from Leonard Cohen although i don't think anyone got open arms fro whole tribes of ppl on the list to be noted..and certainly not on the powwow trail alto up in Vermont there are keepers of the western Abenaki language and powwow are between the reserves and the ppl in Vermont and the focus is on the children


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Old 01-04-2012, 06:46 PM   #623
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St. Francis/Skokoki Band of Abenakis of Vermont
these ppl just got the state to allow for tribe recognition it been a hard won fight and it been said to look after how the Abenaki won for the times ahead maybe not in our life time but for the ones after
And that is what is really, really sad... there are a FEW real tribes who have state recognition only, and they are the ones the fakes and frauds hurt the most!
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And that is what is really, really sad... there are a FEW real tribes who have state recognition only, and they are the ones the fakes and frauds hurt the most!
i understand your anger and i believe that its true.
im glad you're a full blood too ! im glad for all the ppl that are, i know this is a different topic but as you need to fight for your family and ppl you should as you understand,
personally im not affected in the same way you are all tho i belong to a clan and am part of a nation i powwow and enjoy my community .
i was not inside the system of life that i now enjoy today i would that there are no ppl that want to belong to a ppl that is not who they come form but i cant deni the truth that Indian way of life is far better that the rest of what i have known

also with out those ppl coming to blanket dances or buying Indian made the ppl would have less as i see. so it the frauds where the fight lies in and that is where the most damage comes in .
but there again its not going to hurt you or I it is the ppl that follow them and the bitterness i see around make me sad but really your safe in your ppl remember that
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Isn't Zeke from Missouri?
I live in Missouri, I'm from Oklahoma, but that doesn't actually mean anything.

Why not? I am what I am regardless of geography.

Those who fear the definitions of others (i.e., the race baiting zealots) merely verify that they are unsure of their own.

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Are you stating 'groups', or state recognized 'tribes'. North Carolina comes to mind. Are there 'state recognized groups' in Missouri? Are there legitimate 'state recognized tribes' in Missouri?

Isn't Zeke from Missouri?
There are no recognized tribes in Missouri...
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i understand your anger and i believe that its true.
im glad you're a full blood too ! im glad for all the ppl that are, i know this is a different topic but as you need to fight for your family and ppl you should as you understand,
personally im not affected in the same way you are all tho i belong to a clan and am part of a nation i powwow and enjoy my community .
i was not inside the system of life that i now enjoy today i would that there are no ppl that want to belong to a ppl that is not who they come form but i cant deni the truth that Indian way of life is far better that the rest of what i have known

also with out those ppl coming to blanket dances or buying Indian made the ppl would have less as i see. so it the frauds where the fight lies in and that is where the most damage comes in .
but there again its not going to hurt you or I it is the ppl that follow them and the bitterness i see around make me sad but really your safe in your ppl remember that

I am not angry, just tired of wannabes trying to get recognition, and all the fakes who got state recognition, that hurts the true tribes who have state recognition and then the federal tribes have to take action against those who are making false claims, this hurts the real state recognized tribes...

I am not full blood.... but I am no thin blood...
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I live in Missouri, I'm from Oklahoma, but that doesn't actually mean anything.

Why not? I am what I am regardless of geography.

Those who fear the definitions of others (i.e., the race baiting zealots) merely verify that they are unsure of their own.

If you're not afraid, you're sort of above it.
Who is baiting?

Your bio says you are Ottawa/Shawnee... which Shawnee tribe and who is your family? Are we related?
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And so it begins again. I almost thought I was delirious from the bronchitis and the cough meds for a minute. I'll go make the popcorn, somebody get the sodas.
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Quoting Youtube does not prove an argument...
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Yeah, that's so true. But things have calmed down since ECSN has been banned last week. So maybe now can be back the way things go.
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BTW If Kathy (kiowakat) is invited back...an invitation to sokoki wolf is im order.

Now any of yous who were around 6-7you years ago or earlier, yous remember all those alley brawls.

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thanks Joe's...but i was never banned! just dont come here much now...got tired of hearing the self righteous one's babbling and broken recording...as it seems many others are as well...but fools are always good for entertainment...so enjoy zeekster everyone...
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Yayyyyy!!! Fight Night is back!!!

Good to see you sokoki. This place was getting pretty mundane.

Somebody start a petition to get KiowaKat back!
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