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Old 01-14-2012, 11:01 AM   #721
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Fake groups and Why they are so destructive
Case in point we have groups in Missouri and Arkansas who hold demonstrations of Native dance and Stories.
They go to schools or even worse they charge people in a Theater setting they tell stories and demonstrate dances
I don't see the destruction.

Are you -- and others -- upset that this happens or that someone with a tribal card isn't the one prostituting Nativeness for $$$?

Because, while the video is cheesy and inaccurate, I've seen LOTS of carded Natives be woefully cheesy and inaccurate, too...

It's as if folks are saying it's okay to be a hooker so long as you're in the union.
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:06 AM   #722
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so you have a plan ? if you don't mind saying so again @ zeke
what is it and how would it look
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:14 AM   #723
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I don't see the destruction.

Are you -- and others -- upset that this happens or that someone with a tribal card isn't the one prostituting Nativeness for $$$?

Because, while the video is cheesy and inaccurate, I've seen LOTS of carded Natives be woefully cheesy and inaccurate, too...

It's as if folks are saying it's okay to be a hooker so long as you're in the union.
and your comparison is over the top no one talking about sex or money although i can think of a few ppl i have seen at powwows that are better snagers than others based on the nativness, still this is not the point ! anyways saying what you see even if you trump up your cards with absurd commits i would like to hear a clear and believable answer to what might help the problem
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I'm thinking that if and when we ever have a real Powwows.com Powwow that the night time entertainment can be a regulation size octagon arena (UFC ring) and let Powwows.com members duke it out... With pads of course, you know for insurance reasons.

Anyone else like this idea?
Sure thing! We can have a tournament.
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:53 AM   #725
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and your comparison is over the top no one talking about sex or money
REALLY? And what do you think is the motivation for all of this? Hint: it's $$$ and who gets to be the prostitute.

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i would like to hear a clear and believable answer to what might help the problem
I don't perceive a problem. You see, there's this thing known as a free market...
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REALLY? And what do you think is the motivation for all of this? Hint: it's $$$ and who gets to be the prostitute.



I don't perceive a problem. You see, there's this thing known as a free market...
Really zeke really thats a short fix in forming a few words that over look anything of topic
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Uh, "no."

On ALL counts.

Elaborate? How many times did you have to Google the spelling to get it correctly?
Wow what little respect for you that I did have has, like Elvis, left the building. As an @SS who stood his ground I could respect. But as a cowardice punk with no bite and all bark you are even more worthless than teets on A boar.
 
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I found some links and it looks like the whole world hates Zeke.

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Okay my stubborn friend- I must remind us all that the Ottawa do NOT get free education just because they are Ottawa! They receive their opportunity to attend the University tuition free because of a land agreement between the tribe and the church. It's a pretty thang.Don't stain it with ugly. GO BRAVES!

hey wasn't you in the dog house? LOL!
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I'm thinking that if and when we ever have a real Powwows.com Powwow that the night time entertainment can be a regulation size octagon arena (UFC ring) and let Powwows.com members duke it out... With pads of course, you know for insurance reasons.

Anyone else like this idea?
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you know this gets so tiring after a while, this always resorts to the same things over and over, people don't understand what others are tyring to say, or they assume what others are saying, then someone starts elevating the tension with name calling.

this is the problem with powwows.com, same people get involved in each and every discussion, always acting the same way, and it always dissolves quickly into something unrelated to the actual subject.

There are things in this world I wish I had not seen, several horrible nights in Tijuana included, but I digress... One of the biggest problems this discussion has, as well as most, it that most people involved do not have any sort of common set of experiences that they can draw upon to base their discussion on. I have seen non-Indians performing at federally funding programs, I have seen real card carrying indians wearing chinese made beadwork telling crowds that the Cherokee invented powwows, and I know white people who are amaaazing craftspeople. for some people out there, money is the only thing that motivates them, and culture and the truth be damned. for others, the decide not to participate in events/activities that may call into question issues of authenticity.

For some people on this site and/or who used to be on this site they cannot have a reasonable discussion on certain topics because of other issues outside of the topic. Its a shame that they can't be discussed in a better way, its frustrating for those of us who see the possibilities in discussion, dialouge, education.

Yo, yer all punk @sses. Geesh....
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Yo, yer all punk @sses. Geesh....
I, certainly, have moments.

That said, I have often perceived an unwillingness -- not inability but unwillingness -- of many folks here to critically think, let alone strategically, about what views they hold.

And that's the damnable misery of it.

If you're unwilling to ask "why," you're only passing on to your kids "because."

They deserve better.
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I don't see the destruction.

Are you -- and others -- upset that this happens or that someone with a tribal card isn't the one prostituting Nativeness for $$$?

Because, while the video is cheesy and inaccurate, I've seen LOTS of carded Natives be woefully cheesy and inaccurate, too...

It's as if folks are saying it's okay to be a hooker so long as you're in the union.
Ahh but with a Hooker you know what your getting
Sex

Not with these folks

So what your Basically saying is....
Who Cares! If you believe this crap your a Dumba** and if you have a problem with this crap your a Dumba**
None of this matters because its all meaningless in a few more years there wont be any Ndn's left anyway
LOL

I really understand why you post Zeke
To watch all the dumba**es get all bent over your words!
While you sit back with your cool reasoning and intelligance observing it all, Never a part of it just standing on the outside looking in...
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I really understand why you post Zeke
To watch all the dumba**es get all bent over your words!
I do admit to finding great humor in it all.

I have considered writing some big manifesto and starting a thread entitled, "Does Zeke actually believe his own BS" but -- someday -- I might run for public office...

And the answer, should you care, is "yes, I do."
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I do admit to finding great humor in it all.

I have considered writing some big manifesto and starting a thread entitled, "Does Zeke actually believe his own BS" but -- someday -- I might run for public office...

And the answer, should you care, is "yes, I do."
Ok I will bite
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Wow! I have spent hours reading all this! I do think it would be easier for people to understand if things stayed on topic! I thought by reading this I would get some understanding about the whole Federal Cherokee debate.....but I got nothing but a lot of confusion!
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Wow! I have spent hours reading all this! I do think it would be easier for people to understand if things stayed on topic! I thought by reading this I would get some understanding about the whole Federal Cherokee debate.....but I got nothing but a lot of confusion!
Actually its been posted again and again this is an olddd Topic
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He is going to get us all killed.

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