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Old 09-08-2005, 11:26 AM   #21
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Hmm...

Allow me to speak, if you will...

I'm from Mount Vernon and my family is one of the ones from the "MOWA" Band of Choctaw Indians.

I think a lot of people have been told a lot of things they think based on the information they have received.

124 of us... You have not been to my home lately. My own family just from my own grandfather numbers in the hundreds alone.

My family is joined from 2 of the 4 main families that are mentioned in the book "They Say The Wind is Red".

Not Indian? Perhaps you have not seen a few of the pictures of the my family and kinfolk.

Mixed - I can say a lot are these days. After all a couple of hundered years is a couple of hundred years.

Most of the older generations had large families often with 7 or more children reaching adulthood. My family was one of them.

White or Black or just something in between?

Hmmm...

Let me speak for those in Mount Vernon since I am from there and a bit better versed in our situation.

1. We are not black and have a distinct community that is not black.

2. We are not white and have a distinct community that is not white.

3. Those is neighboring areas call us cajuns, indians, or just "you people or your people".

4. We have suffered and continue to suffer from neglect.

5. We are not from the town of Mount Vernon.

6. We are not from the town of Citronelle.

7. Our community stands alone.

If there is a domestic dispute or any dispute involving weapons or violence. The police quietly wait typically over 30-60 minutes for the gunpowder to settle before they decide to visit and usually call it a simple "family dispute".

I've been there and watched it happen.

We are less than loved by our neighbors. We are impoverished.

I've seen where some people have asked for formal records...

Hahahahah!

We are in the 21st century and we are just now numbering a more than a score of our people who even have a college degree.

30 years ago, there were only a handful.

In 1900 - 1950 or so, most of our folks had to walk more than 5 miles to attend school and as a result many only had a poor 3rd thru 6th grade education.

But it was ok, since we were just poor indians who belonged to a white man and whose only input to society was to get our land stolen for the value less than .50 per acre and for groceries needed to survive at a "Company Store".

But then we did gather turpentine and gather pulp wood etc. as well.

We raised our own crops and animals, drank water from a spring and lived in our own fashion.

We had a few a juke joints and we used them. I guess it kept our minds off of the education we did not have.

Or worrying about our lands being stolen acre by acre from us as we needed a little money to feed the little ones.

I went home this past week.

I listened as a mother told me the story of how a high school principal performed a "cavity search" on her child (a MOWA of dark complexion and straight black hair) and how this child was continuously chastised until he dropped out of school.

She did not finish her own high school education (the only child from her family that did not) and felt her word not as good as a white man's to the school district.

Our people live though this daily and you try to tell us that we are not what we are.

We've paid for our geneology for over 200 years of this type of treatment which continues today.

My own niece who happens to be of a fair complexion and brown eyes, a nice girl of 16 years recently suffered as well from this malice towards our people.

It is a crime.

When I attended high school there, we also had our problems and once had a race riot. There was some blood and there were write-ups about how the indians went on some kind of rampage and scalped the white man. Written by the kindly white folk from Citronelle, no doubt.

Why are we indians when it comes to receiving all of the benefits of racial hatred, malice, and evil?

Why are we not in other cases?

Can someone explain this to me, because I do not understand it so well?

We have not asked for much. This Federal Recognition thing seems to be something that might allow us to get decent medical care, provide education which might lead to better job opportunities.

Today we have a small volunteer fire department. We have no EMS services - many of our people die as a result. That is correct die. Read the obituaries.

The land that was stolen from us, was given to chemical companies. They have poisoned us. We are now dying at the rate of about 1 person per month due to some form carcinogenic.

We have had over a dozen stillbirths, We have at least 4
"waterhead babies" (statistically 1 in 200,000 or so - we only have about 6000 people in our communities).

We have been told about the mercury in our water. We have toxins in our air less than 3-5 miles away from us.

We are in a time of drastic need for something.

So if you want to call us something, call us wretched.

We need the ability to defend ourselves.

We have issues with drugs and alcohol in our community. We need the ability to police ourselves and protect our childern.

We need a lot of the same things, most other communities take for granted.

We've recently been told about the toxins in our drinking water provided by the government.

I heard a lot of things aout the Jena Band and I would advise you look at their story a little closer.

They were not that much different than the MOWA Band.

They just got recongnised a bit quicker than the MOWA Band.

If you need to contact me feel free to do so. I am going to take pictures of some of my folks and it might be worth it to create the family trees of some of them and put it on the Internet so others might get a chance to see firsthand what they are being told and then make their own educated opinion.

We are a handful of communities that are pretty much isolated from the White Folks and the Black Folks. It has always been this way.

To now say we are not what we have always been, is truly a travesty.

Especially from others who would otherwise share our lineage and history.

We are those who did not sign papers and simply walk away. We've stayed and it has not been easy, but we have stayed.

Today, it is difficult to buy any land from our peoples, they simply will not sell to outsiders. It's all we have left and we try to keep it on our families.

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I am curious about some thoughts here. Many are down grading many groups trying to fight for their Fed. Rec. and we (Fellow NDNs) are down grading these peoples because they are accepting money to be a member of the group. I believe if I'm not wrong, that many Fed. Rec. Nations accept(require) a fee for accepting applications/geneology processing. In fact I don't know of any Nation not requiring a fee for "Processing". I am sure that if I tried to go to an Alabama, Florida, New York group for example would not allow me to join since I have no family from these areas. I have heard that in the past some Fed. Rec. Nations enrolled some folks with plenty of money and very little to no NDN blood.

Go figure, die from with in. This seems to be the Whites way of getting rid of us. Also seems as if the Skin Game is still alive and doing well.

Just some thoughts, thanks.
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Correct me if I am mistaken, but I do not recall hearing of anyone of the MOWA's having to pay anything at all.

My father and my sister registered on the rolls. My father told me he had registered my sister and myself as his children.

No one paid any money at all as far as I know.

Other tribes charge money?

News to me.

Again, many folks from our area are impoversished, charging a fee to claim your bloodlines would not be taken very well, at least I would think not.

I currently live out of state and have done well on my own.

I am only recently thinking of returning home and am saddened by the state of things.

Federal Recognition or not, our people have some serious problems with pollution, education/literacy, drugs, jobs, housing, medical/dental and a number of other issues that any other community faces.

We need firm and steadfast leadership to help our people through these trying times.

Hell, I'd settle for a non-profit organization that can help foster projects like habitat for humanity.

Seeing people living in trailors that do not even have air or heat and would not be fit for living by most people is simply atrocious.

Seeing people living out of the back of an old semi tractor trailor off the roadside is atrocious.

Seeing that these are my people, I feel ashamed of living well, while my kinfolk are on the verge of such impovershment.

This is the United States. Yet, many live in the backwoods with roads that are washed out and a vehicle can hardly manuever properly. Some still use horses to get around.

Are you people hearing this?

You may say not indian, but our folks don't have to be wearing buckskins to make the point any more vivid.

We are the remains of those who have been left behind for generations.

It is not pretty but it is true.

Take a vacation sometime and come to drive our roads, visit our cemetaries, and meet our people.

We are what we are and as my wife says "Paper holds anything".

So hey, compare our simple lifestyle down to the food we eat and the manner in which we still hunt, maybe you'll widen your point of view a bit.

We are a very close-knit set of communities and have been for generations, it is our heritage.
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Mowa Band

Wow, this is so interesting and I will follow it. On my mom's side I have relatives from both OK Band and Miss. Band. On my dad's side they left OK early on and settled in Marksville LA, they couldn't deal with the dry land of OK after the fertile soil of Miss. I know there are a lot of people there in LA. that wasicu's consider Cajun or Creole but are actually Ndns, some have french names some don't, but alot of Ndns do like among the Lakota.

I do believe that some of the Arcadians lived and adopted the traditions of the Ndns in the area, it stands to reason, they were hiding from the British in the swamps etc. Without help from Ndns they wouldn't have survived.

I pray for an fair resolution to this.

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Enrollment of Mowas

I feel you Cherosage, in away the whole enrollment process has become a sham. There's a girl in Cali that's straight up White, but her mom married a full blood with connections who adopted her (I think) and had her in enrolled. She competes in carded powwows and stands out like a 3 -legged mule. It's amazing, especially when there are full bloods who for whatever reason can't get enrolled, and they usually really need help like from IHS (not that it's anything to write home about due to their lack of proper funding.), while a person that doesn't have 1 drop of Ndn blood prances around.

People are always telling me 'I've got lots of Indian blood', then I ask 'what's on your birth certificate?" So it's just like this girl in Cali, her birth records would show white, but she's enrolled as an Indian with full benefits. So unless you want to open a Casino, what is really the benefit of Fed. Recognition, especially since they can continue to take our lands whenever they please? With the shortage of reasonable housing areas like L.A., I believe they will start take more land back in the future.

My great grandparents were on the original Choctaw rolls in OK, but that and $4.00 will buy me a cup of Starbucks.
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Actually,

As far as Federal Recognition, I think the biggest thing it would do for the MOWA is allow us to compete at the federal level and allow us an opportunity to become educated - something we truly long for.

You see at present, where we live does not have many jobs and if you have a recognized last name that comes from where we live you may be automatically black-balled for many jobs. Goes with the blood, right.

So that leaves us to our traditional jobs of either being woodsmen or of taking jobs as contractors ot of state. I almost forgot many are truckers and a variety of other trades. Naturally being woodsmen and living in lower Alabama makes us a natural selection for disaster response and cleanup crews (mostly manual laborers).

Given that most of our people suffer from a lack of formal education this situation is mostly staying the same or maybe improving some small amount. However, it is not enough and is not fast enough.

I guess Fed. Rec. would allow our people some access to medical and education advantages we currently long for.

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Alot of our elders still grow their own crops and mostly live off of the land as it is. However, they are dying away.

The middle generations (45-65) are trying hard to fight for Fed. Rec. and some new blood joins in as they become educated to our issues as a people.

The fact is simple: We are alone. We have always been alone.

We have lived as we are and shall continue to do so.

Myself, I'm making my exit from "Civilization" to return home to help in this fight. We are the underdogs here. We have little chance of winning this Fed. Rec. but that does not mean that we will lose as a people or that we will give up what we are.

I went home and what I saw is just simply wrong. Funny, I never thought of it much as I grew up there. Playing and hunting in the woods.

Now it is different. Every house I visit has someone sick or dying of cancer or some other ailment. I feel enraged at this.

Our people do not typically have the education to protect themselves. They do not know how to gather together to fight back against things that cause them harm.

Like children most are - in some strange sense.

There lives are simple and so are their ways.

Some of our people in McIntosh are not able to live on thier own property since the Chemical companies have turned it into a toxic waste dump with poisonous slime.

The City Water in that runs from Citronelle to Mount Vernon has been reported to contain a poisonous chemical.

Our children are suffering. I drove around and at least 3 places I saw signs along the road cautioning of deaf children playing.

Our people are dying at the rate of about 1 per month now of cancer or diabetes. None die of natural causes anymore.

Some got older but were eat up with some form of cancer.

Our story is bleak.

So you people who only know what you read go ahead and talk and write about what it is you think you know.

You'll be just as wrong as the ones who killing our people.

We are dying but we will continue to fight.

It is a travesty to not be able to visit even a single household that has not known some type of ailment caused by these poisons.

Irony:

1. The land was "stolen" from us via the white man.

2. We worked that land like slaves for those men.

3. Those men sold some of the land to the chemical companies.

4. Those chemical companies would not hire indian labor - since we worked for the white man who sold the land to the chemical companies.

5. Those chemical companies poisoned and polluted our air, land, and water.

6. We are now sick and dying and even more so in the last 20 years.

7. The white man who stole most of our land was a legislator and now his son is a legislator.

8. We have been systematically raped, robbed, pillaged, and ultimately murdered.

Who speaks for us?

We're just a bunch of half-breed barbarians who live in the woods and on dirt roads.

Who speaks for us?
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If the state of Alabama has recognized the Mowa Choctaw as being Indian, then I'm not sure why there is a problem with Federal recognition.

Alabama also recognizes the Northeast Alabama Cherokees, the Southeast Alabama Cherokees, the Echota Cherokees, none of which are Cherokee tribes. The state of Alabama's recognition of the Mowa Choctaws is worth about as much as a gelded horse to a breeder.
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MOWA friends

Darby,

Those chemical plants really stink. I always was worried as I drove by them on my way to visit ya'll..."what on earth are they making there, and how does it affect the people who live around here?" Now after reading what you wrote, my suspicions are confirmed. I see why you are so desperate to help your people.
Ya'll have always been so kind to my son and me. No one around there talks the way ya'll talk, and no one looks the same as ya'll, which I say is that ya'll are beautiful people, in your hearts and in your skin.
I see that the gov't. and schools continue to treat you as different. I remember when I heard Longhair talk about how you couldn't go to school before Civil Rights Laws were enacted, cause neither the white schools nor the black schools would let you attend.
You have lost so much. You have learned so much. I will hope and pray that the end result is something to help all with the problems you face.
Just like I heard an elder in Alaska say, "Go, go get your education, make something of yourself. And then, come home, bring your education and skill home, to help your people."
Do it, Darby.

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Thanks for your kind words Mary.

Nice to know someone here has actually been down our way and can speak intelligently about the matter.

Yes those stinking chemical plants are making things worse and have only recently even started hiring any of our people to work at them.

As far as Badmutha, hmmm... not sure what to make of your comments.

I think what is missing from the picture is something as simple as a house by house pictoral of who we are.

I don't think that has been depicted but apparently is in order.

You see, many people may have our lineage confused a bit, but we while many of our people are mixed we still have people who are pretty near 100% pure blood too.

The number 124 is wrong.

Our people tend to put white when declaring race. Ever since Jim Crowe I would think.

However, my dad is as terracotta as they come and are the rest of the Byrd and Weaver familes. I would guess these two families alone number over 1000 people.

They in turn are intermarried to the Sullivans, Reeds, Coles, Fraziers, Chastangs, etc.

And several of these familes are unbroken for quite some time.

Now split this over several of our communities and you get quite a hodge-podge of inter-family marriages.

Every once in a while folks like my dad married from the outside and had children from the said marriage. My mom was also classified a white woman. However, her grandfather on her mother's side was a full-blooded Cherokee as I recall and actually from a recognized tribe. Some of her family are referred to as the "Black Dutch" and tend to have dark hair and light eyes.

So you see the racial mixture can be quite diverse. But the majorty of our people have inter-married with people from the other towns for generations.

I guess partly since we never had much to do with the white or black folks on either side of us and vice versa.

However, we are what we are.

Now, as my research continues in this matter it appears that some rare genetic traits and ailments specific to the Indian population seems to be widespread in our people is this the same with your people?

So now that DNA testing can be done and for as little as $475.00 a person perhaps we can make our point a bit more scientific.

We are living with just about all the sins of the past in our modern day era.

From racism to genetic disorders that are rare or non-existent outside of the Indian community and yet some of you believe we have something to "prove" to the government, that same government that helped create our present situation.

Hmm...

Yep, I'm feeling ya.

Now, I'm one of the ones that listened to my dad so long ago as he explined to me the value of staying in school so I could learn to read and to write.

He's probably one of the most stubborn of the bunch and one of the hardest to get a point across to, but he made a point with me to get my education.

I'm going home soon and I intend to open a place of learning in the style of socrates.

I'll supply the resources such as facilities, servers, workstations, software, and electricity to keep the place afloat and with the level of expertise that I can offer my kinfolk, I expect more than one can get their own advanced education and get ahead themselves.

We are not quite the last uneducated bunch of MOWA's coming out of the woods, but we are definately going to be the ones to provide a road for the ones who come after us.

Technology is the greatest equalizer I have ever seen.

I am a master of technology and as a result, I think I can help my people learn to use it to their advantage, with or without Federal Recognition.

The fact is we simply want our children to have a fair chance.

We should not even have to ask, but we do. It's not a fair fight, but let me make it clear we are fighting to win and we simply cannot lose more than we already have.

Do I make my point clear?

You know it is funny...

I can go home and walk up to almost anyone's house in the two counties, introduce myself, and I am always made to feel I am a welcome guest and outsiders are made to feel the same.

It is a big difference from how others treat us.

Think about it.

A friend of mine has a girlfriend who is white. She got pregnant by an Indian, Cajun, or MOWA, etc. and her white family just kicked her out of Citronelle without any further consideration.

The baby was lost.

My friend's father felt such strong compassion for the way she was treated simply because of her relation to her son, that he took her in his house where she lives today with her own daughter.

That's how our people are. Just one story but we have hundreds more just like it.

We try to take care of ourselves.

Jusy and FYI, so everyone is absolutely clear:

If you come down our way and ask most of our folks about the MOWA and what it is and what they think they have to gain, many have no real clue. Few feel entitled to anything actually.

So don't look at us like a bunch of people with our hands out looking for a free lunch.

We have pride and we have our honor. It is something to see that even the lowest and poorest among us in terms of material things walks proudly and stands with his or her head held high every day no matter what the day has had in store for him or her.

That is the spririt of our people.
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I here some here cite the Mississippi Choctaw as a source for who they think is and is not Choctaw.

Hmmm...

If it was solely on the basis of heritage why would they have to pay such sums of cash to people like Abramoff and Delay...

Now, I'm not sure about you but it would make me wonder.

You see the problem is not heritage but geography.

Mount Vernon is only about 30 minutes from Mobile.

And I think the Mississippi Choctaw's Casino's are further than 30 minutes away and even the Poarch Tribe in Atmore might have some pretty stiff competition if the MOWA received Federal Recognition.

But, hey, I've only been watching this game closely for about 4 years now with interest.

I did not think much of it back in the 80's when the Poarch opened their casinos or when I learned many of my own kinfolk leisure their own time away in Mississippi...

But you see the only color these folks are truly worried about is green.

Hold on, I'm out of state right now, but on my next trip home, I'll take some pictures of some of our folks and let you make your own decisions based on what you see.

If you happen to be in Oklahoma and see someone who resembles some of your folks don't be afraid to chime on in.

You see, most folks have only read the words, the problem is that they have not seen the faces.

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Also in 1998, the Mississippi Choctaw contributed $150,000 to the USFN after DeLay, his wife, and DeLay's then-chief of staff Susan Hirschmann visited the tribe. The tribe, Abramoff's largest client at the time, had been fighting against efforts to tax its casino revenues. DeLay sided with the Choctaw on the issue. Stone, National Journal, Feb. 13, 2006 . Prior to DeLay's visit and while employed by DeLay, Buckham and Rudy visited the Choctaw reservation in 1997. R. Jeffrey Smith, The DeLay-Abramoff Money Trail, The Washington Post, December 31, 2005.
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Hey, I got a geography (?). Where are all of these places in regards to Bato Rouge,LA. I have a Cuz living in Baton Rouge.
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The MOWA Choctaw put on a good Pow-Wow, and I have had a great time when I have danced there. The last one (the 27th Annual Pow-Wow) was June 16-17. It's located in Mt. Vernon, Alabama just north of Mobile. For more information, you can call the tribal office at, (251) 829-5000.
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interesting. has anyone heard of the Mowa Band of Chickasaws? I heard about them years ago when they were going for fed recognition. wonder if the groups are related.
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I think we are speaking of the same group.

MOWA is just an acronym for Mobile-Washington Counties of Alabama and basically is used to tie the folks together.

Mostly 4 of the major family groups spread over about a half a dozen towns or areas. Very traditional.

The 4 main families have pretty much stuck together since all of this stuff started - I suppose back to before the Trail of Tears and the various Treaties.

My grandfather was born in 1898 and my grandmother is 1902 and they were there then and I'm waiting on his WWI Draft Card that shows him registered as "Indian".

We know our roots beyond him a few other generations as well. At least 5 generations or so, back to about the time of the Fort Mims Massacre.

So....

I'm telling you we need a digital library of everything step-by-step so that it is in plain English with birth certificates, bibles, death certificates, whatever "official" records are available etc.


You see our problem is that our folks barely had a school to go to and I may be wrong but sometimes if it comes to walking 5 or more miles to school or tending to the farm, you have to make a choice. That choice got easier if you were an older child to 5-9 brothers and sisters.

Does this make sense to anyone?


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interesting. has anyone heard of the Mowa Band of Chickasaws? I heard about them years ago when they were going for fed recognition. wonder if the groups are related.
Homalosa,

Yes, I have been to their powwow north of Mobile, Alabama. They are very hospitable people.


Darby,

Are you related to Gallasneed or Loretta Weaver? My dad went to school with Gallasneed at either Haskell or Bacone!

Loretta is a real sweetie! I was on the cover of Wispering Winds Magazine with their daughter.
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Hello all,

I just stumbled on this thread and would like to make a comment or two.

It has always been wispered by my elder relatives, but not in polite company, that my family has had indians in our family tree. Seems everyone conviently forgot who or where they were when pressed on the issue. My Mother has done an enormous amount of family history and geneology and has found where our family tree roots. We have family on the rolls, we have great people of history in our tree, and we have family not to be to proud of. But with all this I have been left wondering why my family choose to forget such a rich history. Untill last year when my mother found one branch of our family tree that traveled to Mobile and Washington counties. I thought this was great since it would put new family about 30 miles from where I am living with my new wife. I told my wife about it and found out from here response why my family had chosen to forget. Her words were and I quote " Oh God, Please tell me you not related to those damn trashy cajuns over there by Citronelle. Nobody wants to have anything to do with them and I won't look good if they know you are." (Since then with some education and patience she has formed a different oppinion.)

Seems that contempt is carried over most every where.

To help some make a more educated opinion on this try reading

They Say the Wind is Red: the Alabama Choctaw lost in their own land.

This is a book written by Jacqueline A. Matte done with independant study by her.

Also....

CDIB, Corruption, Deceit, Identity and Bureaucracy in Indian Country.

located free for download at http://www.cdibthebook.com/

it may change your thoughts why people like the MOWA and the Houma are have such difficult times.

As for legitimate documentation I can only hope our family research can help.


I have forwarded this to my mother who is much better versed on these people and events than I am.

Darby Weaver I look forward to meeting you.......



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Thanks for the kind words Steve.

You are correct and contempt is the word.

Recently I spoke with Cedric Sunray from Oklahoma and he was in a conversation with an authority on "Indians".

Cedric had show the gentlemen pictures of our people and he replied to Cedric "Those are Indians but they are not your people"...

How ridiculous is that? Now our people.

Hmmm...

I guess it may take live webcams and with GPS devices to make the point clear.

We are not popular, we are not necessarily liked, we are not black or white, and what we are is being denied by those who are the "Experts" by a system that has made a profit on our very existance and wasting us away to some non-existance.

It is really pitiful, when you think about it.

Every household filled with Cancer or some other problem, almost invariably caused by the many nearby Chemical Plants.

Sad...

And yet, we are told we are not what we always have been.

Very sad.

Our people were Indians in a time and a place where being Indians simply was not every cool.

It still is not as it should be.

But we are getting educated little by little, family by family, one by one...

With education comes a means to fight back and regain our identity.

When 6,000 of us band together, we will be heard.

As of now you only hear a few dozen or less...

The tide is changing.
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Whome,

I think Gallasneed father and my father's father were brothers.

Something like that.

I joined the Navy and went off to bootcamp with his son Sammy back in 1987.

Forgive me if I err in my geneology a bit.

Worst case is that they are one further step cousins.
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Smile Mowa Choctaw

I myself am a Mowa Choctaw. I am one of the few who have had a DNA ran on myself and my children. Our tests came back as haplogroup A, which is native american ancestry. If you have an questions reguarding my DNA you can contact family tree DNA to verify haplogroup A as being native american. I am the great granddaughter of Valley Ann Weaver. Her parents were Rev. William Tete Weaver (Son of Albert "Nin" Weaver and Mary Ann "Polly" Byrd) and Annie Reed (Daughter of William Reed and Lorinda Weaver). I would attach my DNA, but it says it's to large to upload. Theresa Franks Vann

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