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LoneWolfBunn 04-20-2010 04:51 AM

Latest Message from Leonard Peltier
 
Monday, April 19, 2010

Leonard Peltier: Climate Conference in Bolivia

"My name is Leonard Peltier. I am a citizen of the Dakota/Lakota and Anishinabe Nations of North America. Like many of you, I am a tribal person. As Aboriginal peoples, we have always struggled to live in harmony with the Earth. We have maintained our vigilance and bear witness to a blatant disregard for our planet and sustainable life ways. We’ve seen that the pursuit of maximized profits through globalization, privatization, and corporate personhood has become a plague that destroys life. We know that it is not only the land that suffers as a result of these practices. The people most closely associated with the Earth suffer first and most."

Read more of Leonard's statement for the conference at Leonard Peltier Defense Offense Committee: Leonard Peltier to the climate conference attendees (Bolivia).

"In America, we are at ground zero of this war for survival and most often have been left with no mechanism to fight this globalization monster. On those occasions when we are forced into a defensive posture, we are disappeared, tortured, killed, and imprisoned.
I myself have served over 34 years in prison for resisting an invasion intent on violating our treaties and stealing our land for the precious resource of uranium. The same desire for uranium has decimated and poisoned the Diné Nation of Arizona and New Mexico.
The quest for land for dumping and hiding the toxic waste from various nuclear processes has caused a war to be waged on the Shoshone people of Nevada, as well. These are just a few examples of what “progress” has meant for our peoples.
As many can attest, the same struggle is occurring throughout Central and South America.
While my defense of my tribal lands made me a political prisoner, I know I’m not at all unique. This struggle has created countless other prisoners of conscience—not to mention prisoners of poor health and loss of life way, as well as victims of guilt and rage.

To live as we were meant to live is our first right. To live free of the fear of forced removal, destroyed homelands, poisoned water, and loss of habitat, food sources, and our overall life way is our righteous demand. We, therefore, continue our struggle to survive in the face of those who deny climate change and refuse to curb corporate powers.

It is time for all our voices to be heard.

It is time we all listen, too—or else our collective Mother will dramatically and forcefully unstop our ears.

The Indigenous Peoples have been the keepers of knowledge and wisdom—long ago bringing forth foods, medicines, and other products from which the world population still benefits.
The loss of our lands and cultures, therefore, is a loss for the entire human family.
We are all citizens of Earth and this planet is our only home.
What affects one, affects us all. We are all interconnected and our fates are intertwined.

We can indefinitely survive here, but only if we work together to adopt sustainable models for living responsibly.
We cannot continue to destroy Creator’s work, or allow others to do so, in the belief that there will be no consequences.

I pray for a new age—a new understanding, consciousness, and way of being—a new path for all the peoples of the world.

Aho! Mitakuye Oyasin!

(Thank you to all my relations. We are all related.)

In the Spirit of Crazy Horse,

Leonard Peltier

Zeke 04-20-2010 02:44 PM

Let's see how THIS goes over...
 
Leonard makes me ill and is a hypocrite of the highest order. (What are the odds that he even wrote this, himself?)

Here's the deal: he committed murder.

Okay, sure, other folks killed, too. But they went to trial, said so, and were acquitted by reason of self-defense. In sum, they were willing to be accountable for their actions.

Reality isn't that Peltier is a warrior pawn in a holy crusade (as he would have you believe). Reality is that he is a -- now -- aged, brutish, thug who didn't have the cajones, then, to state what he did and, now, desires to be deified for serving a sentence that he earned.

What do you think this loser actually knows about Bolivia? Anything? Why should anyone listen?

Let me be clear: AIM set us back. In many ways, and I am not demonizing the poster or implying connection, they still do.

Why? Because they would rather we pay attention to Leonard than ask, "Why isn't a Native American part of the United States foreign service attache to Bolivia?" (Or, if there is one, why aren't we pimping, them?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonard Peltier
In the Spirit of Crazy Horse,

Leonard Peltier

Crazy Horse may have surrendered, but he never became a pet. At this point, Peltier is questionable.

LoneWolfBunn 04-22-2010 12:29 AM

Leonard Peltier was offered CLEMENCY by president Bill Clinton when he was in power. Why is Peltier not walking free? The condition was that he made a claim of guilt. For some reason Leonard Peltier would not state that he was guilty of killing an armed man, while he knows full well people have long since been released after admitting that they were guilty of drowning babies in bathtubs and toilets.

What would be his motive for wishing to spend the remainder of his adult life in jail where he receives worse treatment than other inmates of American prisons?

Historically not all stands made against an oppressor has benefited the oppressed.
And Zeke, if you are pissed-off because you feel that the American Indian Movement has "set you back", I have no more words for you other than, goodbye.

Zeke 04-22-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfBunn (Post 1411552)
Leonard Peltier was offered CLEMENCY by president Bill Clinton when he was in power.

Prove that: it's not what either Clinton says, in his autobiography or the official record.

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Originally Posted by LoneWolfBunn (Post 1411552)
Why is Peltier not walking free?

Because, free, he's just another brutish thug, not Nelson Mandela. Heck, he has a vested interest in remaining a martyr.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfBunn (Post 1411552)
The condition was that he made a claim of guilt.

I KNOW that's bull****, because there was never an offer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfBunn (Post 1411552)
For some reason Leonard Peltier would not state that he was guilty of killing an armed man, while he knows full well people have long since been released after admitting that they were guilty of drowning babies in bathtubs and toilets.

Because it undermines his entire aura of false persecution, which destroys his martyrdom and eviscerates any reason of import. Plus, under actual scrutiny, he'll fall apart. You're aware that Peltier was a wanted felon before Pine Ridge ever occurred, right? That's why he ran.

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Originally Posted by LoneWolfBunn (Post 1411552)
What would be his motive for wishing to spend the remainder of his adult life in jail where he receives worse treatment than other inmates of American prisons?

Because, for him (and others), eradication of the myth is more terrifying than a cell. From the cell, he has some (false) claim to righteousness, he can pretend that he is a man and a warrior, he doesn't have to face reality: that he's a murderer. Which is, of course, even if clemency had been formally offered in exchange for guilt -- and he IS guilty -- why he could never accept.

Peltier, and his defenders, have so much money and reputation on the line that their survival depends on keeping the myths of his innocence alive...(and keeping him in prison!)

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Originally Posted by LoneWolfBunn (Post 1411552)
Historically not all stands made against an oppressor has benefited the oppressed.

Then it is illogical and wasteful to make them. Don't pretend Leonard is Leonidas, he's not. He was a brutish, boorish, violent, drunken THUG before any of this, ever, happened. If he were innocent, and he is not, I, were I you, wouldn't be canonizing him due to a NON act: he had plenty to be scorned for, previously.

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Originally Posted by LoneWolfBunn (Post 1411552)
And Zeke, if you are pissed-off because you feel that the American Indian Movement has "set you back", I have no more words for you other than, goodbye.

I'm not angry, I just deal in reality. AIM set us all back, their violence and short-sighted rhetoric created a backlash that reverberates to this day. Of course, that may not matter to people who have invested their lives and reputations in perpetrating fraud and a cottage industry in Peltier, or tilting at windmills for self-aggrandizement, but it is true.

I challenge -- challenge -- you to find a single Native whom AIM has effectively helped. Not a Nation, tribe or community, but a single person: besides, well, AIM.

And don't give me any of that reflexive bull****, either. You know, crap like:

1. They fought for the oppressed! (Why were they oppressed? AIM.)
2. They protected those in danger. (Why were they in danger? AIM.)
3. They got our story out! (Whose story did they get out? Oh, yeah: AIM.)
4. But we were at war! (Why were we "at war?" Do the math? AIM.)

To wit, Wounded Knee II started as a power struggle between Russell Means and AIM against the Oglala Sioux Tribal Council and its duly elected chairman, Richard Wilson. The FBI had to restrain Wilson from taking care of AIM insurgents on his own terms in order to prevent bloodshed. In sum, the FBI actually protected AIM insurgents from Native Americans who, justifiably, wanted to take back their reservation.

Oh yeah, those AIM-folk are to be praised... :rolleyes:

I suspect I won't be hearing more out of you? :quiet:

ANNA NICOLE 04-22-2010 12:21 PM

Zeke - Good on ya mate....I quite enjoyed reading your response. I agree with what you wrote!

lostsalt 04-22-2010 12:54 PM

If you think Zeke is way out in left field on this one (which his is not), then take the time to inquire with anyone from Pine Ridge.
At least it has been my experience in talking to folks from that community, they have much the same opinion of the Peltier/A.I.M situation.
Many different people expressed to me extreme disgust for the A.I.M. people.
One elderly lady actually gave me a very funny Acronym for AIM. I remember how funny i thought it was listening to this old lady "Going Off" on AIM.
This was in 1990, it forever changed my opinion of the whole issue. I read most of the documents, seen the documentaries, and talked to the people in the community.
Somehow, Peltier has turned into an "Icon" , usually for folks that are at somewhat of a distance from the the NDN community or folks that have a super "idealized" idea of the savage, unjustly persecuted NDN. Peltier seems to embody that for some folks. Furthermore, it captures their emotions so much that they get angry if you try to give them the truth of the situation. MAybe he is a symbol of how the Goverment has mistreated NDNs.
Well it is true the Government did mistreat the Native Americans........
But Leonard Peltier is not a direct victim of this. He is a criminal that is serving time for a crime a judge and jury found him guilty for. No different than a drunk driver or a tax evader.
Just my $0.02

wanjica_the_one 04-22-2010 01:08 PM

Powwows and Peltier don't mix. I remember hearing stories of agents frequenting powwows to see who would stir up the crowd with Peltier propaganda.

Grits & Beans 04-22-2010 01:39 PM

i've heard things here in mpls as well. also i am a graduate of the school aim founded here in the 70's and the fact that this school is now closed is due to aim...

IlnuSoldier 04-28-2010 06:21 PM

Zeke - Maybe I'll start listening more to Peltier when he admits to all the NDN people he beat up and killed... oh yea... and when he sings on the Anne Mae case too..

Honestly, I agree with you 100% -- AIM set us back.

GoggenGH 09-25-2010 09:04 AM

Sorry for being ignorant about the AIM and Peltier!!!
I can see some heated posts on this thread, and would be VERY HAPPY if somebody could tell me why they are against AIM and Peltier. :confused_:confused_:confused_

In my ignorance, I thought that must NDN was supporting AIM, but this does not seem to be the case.
Concerning Peltier, I know he was to prison, but not a lot more.

From one ignorant that would be happy if somebody could put some light on my road concerning AIM!

wanjica_the_one 09-25-2010 09:25 AM

We don't like white folk like Lonewolfbunn preaching to us like we were sitting in a church pew.

Joe's Dad 09-25-2010 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoggenGH (Post 1436080)
Sorry for being ignorant about the AIM and Peltier!!!
I can see some heated posts on this thread, and would be VERY HAPPY if somebody could tell me why they are against AIM and Peltier. :confused_:confused_:confused_

In my ignorance, I thought that must NDN was supporting AIM, but this does not seem to be the case.
Concerning Peltier, I should be careful (should I) to express anything viewpoint as I don't know hiis history good enough, but I'm very touch by his songs.

From one ignorant that would be happy if somebody could put some light on my road!

And NDNs don't like white people expressing their viewpoint on NDN matters.

I'd like to express my viewpoint on Bobby Sands.

LoneWolfBunn 09-25-2010 05:09 PM

I'm not white folk asshole. Unlike you I post under my real name. I grew up on the rez near a town with rednecks that would try to run us over.
It takes some nerve for an annonamous entity to insinuate I am a white guy. First Nations forums are swarming with Nazi's pretending to be First Nations people. There are hundreds if not thousands of people that can comfirm my identity.
I doubt you can say the same...

wanjica_the_one 09-25-2010 05:37 PM

Sorry LWBunn, You just happened to be judged by your cover.

Grits & Beans 09-25-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfBunn (Post 1436125)
I'm not white folk asshole. Unlike you I post under my real name. I grew up on the rez near a town with rednecks that would try to run us over.
It takes some nerve for an annonamous entity to insinuate I am a white guy. First Nations forums are swarming with Nazi's pretending to be First Nations people. There are hundreds if not thousands of people that can comfirm my identity.
I doubt you can say the same...

wanjica is not annonamous entity...he is however someone who can use big words and not sound sloppy. :smile:


not judging you bro...just saying though... :hypocrite


anyways seeker of social justice, wht do you think of zeke's last reply?

LoneWolfBunn 09-25-2010 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grits & Beans (Post 1436129)
wanjica is not annonamous entity...he is however someone who can use big words and not sound sloppy. :smile:


not judging you bro...just saying though... :hypocrite


anyways seeker of social justice, wht do you think of zeke's last reply?

What do I think? **F*B*I* Propaganda well absorbed and doing it's job well which is to spread like a tapeworm. Hope I didn't use any "big" words 2 sloppily(sp?).

Grits & Beans 09-25-2010 06:46 PM

someone needs a hug :lol:

GoggenGH 09-26-2010 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe's Dad (Post 1436084)
And NDNs don't like white people expressing their viewpoint on NDN matters.

I got your message Joe's Dad! I will shut up and just be a good reader about this kinds of stuff!
It was not my intention to upset anybody, just wanted to be informed!

Zeke 09-27-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfBunn (Post 1436132)
What do I think? **F*B*I* Propaganda well absorbed and doing it's job well which is to spread like a tapeworm.

Seriously?

You have GOT to be kidding.

Let me summarize: you don't HAVE an answer. :rolleyes:

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