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Old 02-07-2007, 12:40 PM   #61
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This is an issue that some friends and I were discussing one day. There's someone we all know that's dating a non-native who has ancestory and can prove the documents but's wait on the approvial from the tribe on gettting their card. But anyway the issue that's arrised is non-natives family is kind of scared about how the others family might act when they find out and what they might think.
My question out there is what is everyones oppinion on Natives dating/marrying non-natives?

mikki,

Let me get this straight before going any further.

someone = Native or NonNative?
nonNative = waiting for documents to prove their native
nonNatives Family = scardy cats who are worried what others think.
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mikki,

Let me get this straight before going any further.

someone = Native or NonNative?
nonNative = waiting for documents to prove their native
nonNatives Family = scardy cats who are worried what others think.
lol WHOME you are too funny. you know I was like hey did I not just mention this in one of Who's threads? tired of discussing marrying whites.
I plan on marrying a native man, and I already have mixed kids. now here is my question Native or not, he is not from my nation so really as far as qauntum goes he might as well be white, right. lol just a thought.
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lol WHOME you are too funny. .....as far as qauntum goes he might as well be white,

Migizi,

There are several different degrees that I have heard to describe "White."

1. Pink
2. Pale
3. Transparent white (where you can see all the veins)
3. Bone White
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4. "so white that they could'nt get a tan if they lived on the sun!"




p.s. My great, great, great, great, great grandmother was white...... but, I can't prove it! *L
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My wife, Miika, is Irish white... our live-in assistant, Tainee, is (mostly) German white - and I tell 'em both they are SO white they glow in the dark *grin*
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Dang Patrick,

You made me laugh out loud!
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Migizi,

There are several different degrees that I have heard to describe "White."

1. Pink
2. Pale
3. Transparent white (where you can see all the veins)
3. Bone White
and ....


4. "so white that they could'nt get a tan if they lived on the sun!"





p.s. My great, great, great, great, great grandmother was white...... but, I can't prove it! *L
lmao, was she related to John Smith? There was this women up on my rez, she was nuts she claimed to be related to both John and Pocohantis. lmao too much.
my aunt on my mothers side is number four she could be out all day and all she gets is pink and then that just goes away.
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lmao, was she related to John Smith? There was this women up on my rez, she was nuts she claimed to be related to both John and Pocohantis. lmao too much.
my aunt on my mothers side is number four she could be out all day and all she gets is pink and then that just goes away.

Migizi,

Seriously...






Aye. *L


Anyways, I wonder if they had any children?
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John Rolfe and Pocahantas had one son Thomas who was raised in England after the death of his mother. I have never found any historical information of Pocahantas having any other children.
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Between2,


You're right.

So theoretically they have decendents.

It's hard to tell nowadays if this person Migizi is referring to is legit or a wacko?

Whatcha' think?
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Yeah - it is hard to tell. Thomas Rolfe did return to Henrico County in Virginia - but Virginia is a long ways from da rez in Minnesota.

Probably a wacko though - because as I recall my early colonial history, John Smith died a confirmed bachelor without heir.
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Yeah - it is hard to tell. Thomas Rolfe did return to Henrico County in Virginia - but Virginia is a long ways from da rez in Minnesota.

Probably a wacko though - because as I recall my early colonial history, John Smith died a confirmed bachelor without heir.
He died bald? I didn't think they had chemotherapy back then.
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Migizi,

There are several different degrees that I have heard to describe "White."

1. Pink
2. Pale
3. Transparent white (where you can see all the veins)
3. Bone White
and ....


4. "so white that they could'nt get a tan if they lived on the sun!"




p.s. My great, great, great, great, great grandmother was white...... but, I can't prove it! *L
Your forgot "pasty." That's me, I'm pasty, at least in the winter.
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Your forgot "pasty." That's me, I'm pasty, at least in the winter.
pastie - that can be construed inna variety of ways. It's a term used in N.Michigan as a word to describe a pastry/pie product.

Also, a word to describe a nipple cover that exotic dancers use.

Which one are you, Trob?
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pastie - that can be construed inna variety of ways. It's a term used in N.Michigan as a word to describe a pastry/pie product.

Also, a word to describe a nipple cover that exotic dancers use.

Which one are you, Trob?
"Pasty," adjective, with a long "a," the color of paste. Not the noun. Also, I understand the pastry object rhymes with "nasty," thought I guess that depends on where you're talking about it. "Pasty-face" is a semi-derogatory term used around here (Mid-Atlantic) for a white person, derogatory when you use it that way, not derogatory if you don't. I'm not being self-derogatory. I like me. My face is pasty. Just a fact, like my Morton's toe and my shovel teeth and my big blue eyes. Wish I were taller, though.
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I guess I'm for that marry (or sleep with) who you love deal, otherwise, I wouldn't be here. (Hence the name MixedIndian). I'm sure that applies to a lot of us, a lot of us are mixed indians now. And anyway, I feel as long as you maintain knowledge of your heritage and roots and pass along the knowledge to your children, whether they're full or not, you are still Native living the Native way. And that's what's important. The Government still fails to regonize you whether you're 100% or 2%, they still don't want Natives around, so why risk losing out on someone you love to be with a Native that you maynot love and still have the Gov. f-u-c-k you around!! Think about it.
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Also, a word to describe a nipple cover that exotic dancers use.

Which one are you, Trob?
Your makin me hungry and not because of the nipple cover thing.
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...now here is my question Native or not, he is not from my nation so really as far as qauntum goes he might as well be white, right. lol just a thought.
Think about it like this...

If you practice some of your tribal customs (not pow-wow), an indian would know not to refuse food, or ask why about everything.

If you go to a pow-wow, you wouldn't have to sit next to your indian partner and tell them the meaning of everything going on in the arena. You could go walk around and be your normal sociable self.

If you bring the family around your indian man, you don't have to apologize to him because your family starts teasing him really hard. U also don't have to tell them they only tease when they like you.

If you have to smudge or any other type of cultural task you can just do it in front of your indian man and not stop to explain. You can even ask them to do it since he's the man.

You can take your indian man to your tribal ceremonies and not have to ask permission if he can go.

....

I'm sure there are even more situations like this.... and these are good reasons to be with an indian (native, tribal person etcc....)

Bonus if the person loves to pow-wow! then u always have a travel partner.
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well i personally think besides being a good tpoic but ndn's should marry ndn's... but the oriniginal person who started this thread should recognize that just because the person isnt a card holder doesnt mean that they arent ndn...I also believe that a person should marry for love not because of race. You want to make sure youre happy and with the right person and not shoved into something you would be miserable in. I see in cali tons of non-natives marrying ndn's and many of them respect their spouse and family so its going about the right way. Thern again the problem is the blood quantem will go down so its a 50/50 deal with me. my boyfriend is 1/4 Navajo and me im 1/4 Osage& Blackfoot. we are both raised ndn and both grew up in the powwow circuit but when we have kids in all the BQ will reamin a 1/4 but at that point the only thing to do is encourage not shove any kids into marrying fullbloods.
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