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Official US apology to Native Americans

http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/...ogy/?hpt=hp_t3




Navajo man wants the nation to hear its official apology

By Moni Basu, CNN

(CNN) – Buried on page 45 of the 2010 Defense Appropriations Act, after pages on the maintenance and operation of the U.S. military, is an official apology to Native American people.

Mark Charles, a member of the Navajo Nation, stumbled onto the apology about a year ago after he heard GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney say that he would never apologize for America. That comment didn't sit well with Charles - nobody is perfect, he thought.

He wrote a blog post that cited several situations in which he believed it was prudent for America to say sorry. One of them was to native people.

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A reader responded that such an apology had already been issued. Charles went online and found the 2010 Defense Act.

The United States, acting through Congress ... recognizes that there have been years of official depredations, ill-conceived policies, and the breaking of covenants by the federal government regarding Indian tribes; apologizes on behalf of the people of the United States to all native peoples for the many instances of violence, maltreatment, and neglect inflicted on native peoples by citizens of the United States ...

It went on to urge the president to acknowledge the wrongs.

Charles wondered why he had never heard President Barack Obama publicly issue this apology. And if he had never heard it, then most certainly native people who lived isolated lives on reservations had not either.

He set himself on a path to rectify that.

On the anniversary of the passing of the defense bill - Wednesday, December 19 - he would go to the Capitol and he would read the apology out loud, hoping that others would join him in his cause and that it would attract enough attention so that people would hear about it.

At 11 a.m. Wednesday, Charles plans to read the entire defense bill out loud.

"As a Native American, I feel offended that the apology was buried in this bill," he said. "It demonstrates our country is not ready to apologize.

"Personally, I don't think it's a very good apology," he said. "It does not mention any specific tribe or any specific incident."

It also contains a disclaimer at the end: nothing in the apology could be used in a court of law against the United States.

Charles's mother is of Dutch heritage. His father's mother is Navajo. Born in Reheboth, New Mexico, Charles went to UCLA and lived in Denver. But he'd never called called the reservation home. He realized if he were to continue a dialogue about Native Americans - the people with whom he identified - he would need to experience the way they lived.

A few years ago, he took his wife and son and spent several years at a Navajo reservation sheep camp. It was off a dirt road and isolated.

There were only two kinds of outsiders who visited there - those who came for charitable reasons and those who came to click their cameras.

There was little there in the way of infrastructure, no running water or electricity. Charles lived by candlelight and hauled his water. But that was not the hardest part of living there.

"The hardest part was how incredibly lonely and disconnected you feel from the rest of the country," he said.

That's when Charles began to comprehend why many native people felt marginalized.

"I don't believe it's an accident that our people are marginalized," he said. "Our country is so undereducated in Native American history that most people don't even know why the country is apologizing."

Charles felt angry. He knew he had to channel his pain in a way that invited conversation and reconciliation. He began to reflect on a blog, Wireless Hogan, named after the traditional dwelling of the Navajos.

This is how he explains things to people:

Being Native American and living in the United States feels like our indigenous peoples are an old grandmother who lives in a very large house. It is a beautiful house with plenty of rooms and comfortable furniture. But, years ago, some people came into our house and locked us upstairs in the bedroom. Today, our house is full of people. They are sitting on our furniture. They are eating our food. They are having a party in our house. They have since unlocked the door to our bedroom but it is much later and we are tired, old, weak and sick; so we can't or don't come out. But the part that is the most hurtful and that causes us the most pain, is that virtually no one from this party ever comes upstairs to find us in the bedroom, sits down next to us on the bed, takes our hand, and simply says, "Thank you. Thank you for letting us be in your house."

Charles hopes all of America will hear his message when he reads the apology in Washington.

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The Renegade signed the Native American Apology Resolution into law on Saturday, December 19, 2009. The Apology Resolution was included as Section 8113 in the 2010 Defense Appropriations Act, H.R. 3326, Public Law No. 111-118.

There was very little media coverage so this was like letting hot air out in the cold wind.
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With the Connecticut Shooting and the Fiscal Cliff issues at hand, I doubt that the Renegade will do anything about this anytime soon, let alone letting it slide for three years. At least No Doubt and Victoria's Secret issued some sort of apologies immediately.
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Navajo man wants the nation to hear its official apology

By Moni Basu, CNN

(CNN) – Buried on page 45 of the 2010 Defense Appropriations Act, after pages on the maintenance and operation of the U.S. military, is an official apology to Native American people.

Mark Charles, a member of the Navajo Nation, stumbled onto the apology about a year ago after he heard GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney say that he would never apologize for America. That comment didn't sit well with Charles - nobody is perfect, he thought.

He wrote a blog post that cited several situations in which he believed it was prudent for America to say sorry. One of them was to native people.

In rare apology, House regrets exclusionary laws targeting Chinese

A reader responded that such an apology had already been issued. Charles went online and found the 2010 Defense Act.

The United States, acting through Congress ... recognizes that there have been years of official depredations, ill-conceived policies, and the breaking of covenants by the federal government regarding Indian tribes; apologizes on behalf of the people of the United States to all native peoples for the many instances of violence, maltreatment, and neglect inflicted on native peoples by citizens of the United States ...

It went on to urge the president to acknowledge the wrongs.

Charles wondered why he had never heard President Barack Obama publicly issue this apology. And if he had never heard it, then most certainly native people who lived isolated lives on reservations had not either.

He set himself on a path to rectify that.

On the anniversary of the passing of the defense bill - Wednesday, December 19 - he would go to the Capitol and he would read the apology out loud, hoping that others would join him in his cause and that it would attract enough attention so that people would hear about it.

At 11 a.m. Wednesday, Charles plans to read the entire defense bill out loud.

"As a Native American, I feel offended that the apology was buried in this bill," he said. "It demonstrates our country is not ready to apologize.

"Personally, I don't think it's a very good apology," he said. "It does not mention any specific tribe or any specific incident."

It also contains a disclaimer at the end: nothing in the apology could be used in a court of law against the United States.

Charles's mother is of Dutch heritage. His father's mother is Navajo. Born in Reheboth, New Mexico, Charles went to UCLA and lived in Denver. But he'd never called called the reservation home. He realized if he were to continue a dialogue about Native Americans - the people with whom he identified - he would need to experience the way they lived.

A few years ago, he took his wife and son and spent several years at a Navajo reservation sheep camp. It was off a dirt road and isolated.

There were only two kinds of outsiders who visited there - those who came for charitable reasons and those who came to click their cameras.

There was little there in the way of infrastructure, no running water or electricity. Charles lived by candlelight and hauled his water. But that was not the hardest part of living there.

"The hardest part was how incredibly lonely and disconnected you feel from the rest of the country," he said.

That's when Charles began to comprehend why many native people felt marginalized.

"I don't believe it's an accident that our people are marginalized," he said. "Our country is so undereducated in Native American history that most people don't even know why the country is apologizing."

Charles felt angry. He knew he had to channel his pain in a way that invited conversation and reconciliation. He began to reflect on a blog, Wireless Hogan, named after the traditional dwelling of the Navajos.

This is how he explains things to people:

Being Native American and living in the United States feels like our indigenous peoples are an old grandmother who lives in a very large house. It is a beautiful house with plenty of rooms and comfortable furniture. But, years ago, some people came into our house and locked us upstairs in the bedroom. Today, our house is full of people. They are sitting on our furniture. They are eating our food. They are having a party in our house. They have since unlocked the door to our bedroom but it is much later and we are tired, old, weak and sick; so we can't or don't come out. But the part that is the most hurtful and that causes us the most pain, is that virtually no one from this party ever comes upstairs to find us in the bedroom, sits down next to us on the bed, takes our hand, and simply says, "Thank you. Thank you for letting us be in your house."

Charles hopes all of America will hear his message when he reads the apology in Washington.

what good is the appolgee if natives like me and many others must face fact that we will or mite not ever be able to go and reconnect up to our tribe and states like missoueri are still doing many wrong any appologee would be not worth 10 cents as long as many are being dun wrong
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Zeke, do you ever feel like sometimes you are beating your head against a brick wall? :)
Sometimes. And I know that my views are not everyone's.

I can respect that.

But what does anyone actually want from an apology?

1. We all know it happened.
2. There's nothing we can do about it.
3. We're not going to be given back Manhattan.

I get it, our current government is the lineage holder of the one that screwed us. But, just as we are not our ancestors, neither are they.

I like the house metaphor but it's inaccurate. In an accurate house metaphor, for at least the past fifty years, we locked ourselves in the attic and pretended it was our culture.

That's on us, not them.
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Slavery

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U.S. Senate apologizes for slavery

BY MICHAEL MCAULIFF / DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

FRIDAY, JUNE 19, 2009, 12:45 AM


WASHINGTON - The U.S. Congress is saying sorry for slavery.

The Senate voted unanimously Thursday for a resolution acknowledging "the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality and inhumanity of slavery and Jim Crow laws," which authorized the segregation that followed the Civil War.

If the House passes a similar measure next week, as expected, it would mark the highest official mea culpa for the hundreds of years of discrimination that had been enshrined by the Constitution and courts.

"Slavery and Jim Crow, and their continuing consequences, are not the historical baggage of one state, one region or one company," said Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), the resolution's sponsor. "They are an enduring national shame."
Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush had both expressed remorse for slavery. And Congress has recognized other injustices, such as the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II.

"No one pretends that a mere apology - or any words - can right the wrongs of the past," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. "But it represents our recognition of that past and our commitment to more fully live up to our nation's promise."

The measure does have one caveat. It says it doesn't imply support for paying reparations.
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Apology Article 2005

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An Apology for Slavery

By Carol M. Swain

Saturday, July 16, 2005

It's time for the Republican Party to write a new chapter in race relations. What I have in mind is something beyond the Senate's recent resolution on lynching and this week's expression of regret by a high-ranking Republican official for the GOP's use of what came to be know as the "Southern Strategy." What I propose is a formal apology for slavery and its aftermath. This could take the form of a joint resolution passed by both houses of Congress and signed by the president in a ceremonial setting where Americans could gather to symbolically bury their past.

Whenever the idea of an apology is raised, some whites reflexively recoil. They believe it is a bad idea because it conjures up images of innocent whites prostrating themselves before blacks for crimes they never committed. Most outspoken are whites whose ancestors arrived after the end of slavery and those who fought for the Union. Neither we nor our ancestors, they argue, had anything to do with slavery, so why should we apologize?

Others will say that an apology is not necessary because one has already been issued -- two, really. In 1998 President Clinton acknowledged the evils of slavery. And last year President Bush visited Goree Island, a holding place for captured slaves in Africa, and spoke of the wrongs and injustices of slavery. "Small men," he said, "took on the powers and airs of tyrants and masters. Years of unpunished brutality and bullying and rape produced a dullness and hardness of conscience. Christian men and women became blind to the clearest commands of their faith and added hypocrisy to injustice."

That sounds like an apology. Nevertheless, while presidents as far back as John Adams have acknowledged the wrongness of slavery, there is still much to be said for an official apology. It would bring closure and healing to a festering wound.

President Bush is the right man for the job. Since he cannot run for reelection, he can't be accused of pandering for votes. Because he is a born-again Christian, he can and should do this. Since most blacks are Christians, they would graciously accept the apology. By issuing an apology, President Bush could dramatically improve race relations and his party's standing among African Americans.

A national apology would be a collective response to a past collective injustice, and would imply no culpability on the part of individuals living today. America as a nation would apologize for allowing slavery within its borders, with no individual present-day party being singled out for blame.

Already, our failure to acknowledge such a blatant wrong has set us apart from other great nations that have expressed contrition for misdeeds. Consider Germany, which has apologized for the suffering caused by its actions toward Jews and others. More recently Tony Blair apologized on behalf of Britain for its treatment of the Irish during the potato famine of the 1840s. Pope John Paul II apologized for the past sins of the Roman Catholic Church against non-Catholics. Australia apologized for its mistreatment of the country's aborigine population. What, then, would be the great harm in our apologizing for slavery and the Jim Crow racism that followed?

Opponents will sometimes argue that an apology would open the door to claims for monetary reparations. But a national apology would do no such thing. To begin with, the very legality of slavery before passage of the 13th Amendment would make a claim in tort proceedings highly dubious. Then there is the problem of the statute of limitations having long expired. An additional impediment would be the absence of a living wrongdoer to prosecute. Legal precedent is against it. There is little chance that an apology would trigger the legal liability its opponents claim.

There are no good reasons to oppose a national apology for slavery and plenty of good ones to support it. We would all reap enormous national and international rewards from such a goodwill gesture. The Republican Party would perhaps reap the most. An official apology would offer the party the opportunity to reclaim the mantle of the party of Lincoln by forging a new relationship with African Americans, one not clouded by the spectacle of Willie Horton or Trent Lott. And it would do immeasurable good in terms of improving race relations. Best of all, it wouldn't cost a cent. That's a pretty good deal all around.


Carol M. Swain is a professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt University and a visiting fellow at Princeton University.
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Sometimes. And I know that my views are not everyone's.

I can respect that.

But what does anyone actually want from an apology?

1. We all know it happened.
2. There's nothing we can do about it.
3. We're not going to be given back Manhattan.

I get it, our current government is the lineage holder of the one that screwed us. But, just as we are not our ancestors, neither are they.

I like the house metaphor but it's inaccurate. In an accurate house metaphor, for at least the past fifty years, we locked ourselves in the attic and pretended it was our culture.

That's on us, not them.
in a way i disagree....thats like saying we are DESCENDENTS of a once proud people instead of saying we ARE those people....besides britain also screwed us, so did canada, so did mexico....just ask the apachee and the pueblo and the pima and yuma....will they ever get on board? hell no they wont

i understand where youre coming from zeke....and i agree an outcry wont make any difference...BUT we dont have to like it and i can only speak for me but in the case of azzrape (what the US govt did to us) you can pretend it aint happening and plan to "move on" as soon as its over....or you can go down kicking and screaming and curse your rapists name for all eternity.....some of us choose the latter......childish? in some cases maybe......but it is still our right to do so
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Respectfully, it's the right of the people who actually got raped (to raise Hell).

That's not us, it's the folks that came before us.

And the folks they would raise Hell to are no longer alive.

If you curse your rapists name for all eternity, they're still metaphorically raping you by continuing to have influence.

Personally, Andrew Jackson, Custer and Manifest Destiny have no power over me, yo.
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Respectfully, it's the right of the people who actually got raped (to raise Hell).

That's not us, it's the folks that came before us.

And the folks they would raise Hell to are no longer alive.

If you curse your rapists name for all eternity, they're still metaphorically raping you by continuing to have influence.

Personally, Andrew Jackson, Custer and Manifest Destiny have no power over me, yo.
maybe not over YOU....but how about over your tribe? maybe not all tribes but many tribes do have that foot pressing down on thier necks.......dont for one instant think that the rape is still continuing in our generation
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Respectfully, it's the right of the people who actually got raped (to raise Hell).

That's not us, it's the folks that came before us.

And the folks they would raise Hell to are no longer alive.

If you curse your rapists name for all eternity, they're still metaphorically raping you by continuing to have influence.

Personally, Andrew Jackson, Custer and Manifest Destiny have no power over me, yo.
Power? How about Policy? The Gov't has tried multiple ways over many generations to assimilate the Natives into the "great american melting pot". Direct or indirect actions, or neglect, to force Natives into the "mainstream", and turn away from their heritage.

The white attitudes and perceptions behind such history are PERSISTENT.

The Hawaiians had their own royalty before the white man "discovered" them, many Hawaiians today are calling for restoration of their culture and society from pre-contact times.

it was just a couple of generations ago the federal govt intervened at Ole Miss and forced the locals to accept their first African-American student. Feds and U.S. Army personnel had to escort James Merideth to his classes because the local whites would have murdered him.

Persistent hatred.
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hey in MY adulthood we seen george bush sr practice STERILIZATION of our people....and we seen our pleas of keystone be ignored, san francisco mts turned into golf courses, and rez water being frac'ed upstream.............this is just a few things going on today.....yes im pissed about it and wont shut my mouth
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Precisely.

Of course, actually getting an education and taking action would be perceived as assimilation by those who naively glorify the old and fear growth because it is new.

"Forced sterilization?" B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.

Second, when whining about anything that happens on Federal Reserve land -- like fracking -- please note that it's not our land. (How many times do I have to make this point?) If something the Feds desperately desired was discovered right in the middle of the South Dakota badlands (or anywhere else featuring Native squatters on Fed land) there'd just be more removal policy with new crappy dwellings erected a few hundred miles away.

As Native people, we need to grow up. Pining for 1890, at the latest, is just dumb.
  • Growth is not assimilation.
  • If it were, it still beats death.
  • But it's NOT.
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what am i doing about it? i dunno....how much can one man do? i donate when i can...i help raise awareness.............im always stressing that before anything we dont need leaders no more....we need an education.....

as far as policies and land goes, youre absolutely right zeke.....of course if any indigenous group wants thier land back they would first have to take it up with the US Army and that wont go very well....we accept things the way they are but dont tell us we have to like it or shut up about it

as far as the sterilization goes it was REAL.....it was put into vaccines distributed to indian women.....i understand what you are saying but dont be a holocaust denier....that insults our intelligence

as far as assimilation goes many groups PREFER to self-segregate....it should be a right to do so and still recieve all benefits any US citizen is entitled to if not more....
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what am i doing about it? i dunno....how much can one man do? i donate when i can...i help raise awareness.............im always stressing that before anything we dont need leaders no more....we need an education.....
In order to create leaders.

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as far as policies and land goes, youre absolutely right zeke.....of course if any indigenous group wants thier land back they would first have to take it up with the US Army and that wont go very well....we accept things the way they are but dont tell us we have to like it or shut up about it
If you do either you haven't accepted and you hold yourself back.

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as far as the sterilization goes it was REAL.....it was put into vaccines distributed to indian women.....i understand what you are saying but dont be a holocaust denier....that insults our intelligence
Dr. Pinkerton-Uri related that she did not believe the sterilizations occurred from "any plan to exterminate American Indians," but rather from "the warped thinking of doctors who think the solution to poverty is not to allow people to be born." (From American Indian Quarterly, Summer 2000.)

In sum, there was no Fed sponsored planned genocide as quoted from the very Dr. whose propaganda is used to claim that there was.

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as far as assimilation goes many groups PREFER to self-segregate....it should be a right to do so and still recieve all benefits any US citizen is entitled to if not more....
Bull.

If you segregate yourself from citizenry, then you deserve not any of its privileges.
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