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Old 07-23-2013, 12:28 AM   #21
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The other kind of "cougar." I went to El Monte High School. We were Lions!
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The other kind of "cougar." I went to El Monte High School. We were Lions!
We used to live on Ferris and Maxwell a long time ago.
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We used to live on Ferris and Maxwell a long time ago.
No kidding?! Small world. I lived on Granada, about a block from Santa Anita & the 10 get.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:54 AM   #24
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I love my neighbourhood. It's an awesome neighbourhood. I can walk to almost everything I need, it's right on the two bus lines that go almost everywhere I need to go, and it's very family friendly, very low crime, reasonable commute for my husband. We had planned to eventually buy a home in this neighbourhood and stay here until our kids were grown, maybe even for the rest of our lives.
If you are willing to allow a HS mascot to disrupt the above, you're cutting off your nose to save your face. (And acting as prime example of losing focus on what actually matters.)

Personally, I find this -- and most militant crap about mascots -- to just be silly: it represents a classic overreaction due to hypersensitivity which is a significantly larger issue than the butt hurt of a few threatened individuals.

No mascot has ever made me a better or worse Indian. If it ever has to anyone, they need to ask what they're basing their self worth on.
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Please remember that most school's did not pick a mascot to make fun of. They picked a mascot that was TOUGH!! And nothing tougher than Indians!!

Maybe your daughter can make sure that there is a respectfully depicted mascot and help encourage other ways to respect the mascot.
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i agree with zeke

BUT i also dont like the double standards

if i coached a team called the PAL n***ers i would lose my job

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i agree with zeke

BUT i also dont like the double standards

if i coached a team called the PAL n***ers i would lose my job
Except "Indians" and "N***ers" is not a comparable name.

Militant Native types can pretend that it is but it's just not.

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Except "Indians" and "N*ggers" is not a comparable name.

Militant Native types can pretend that it is but it's just not.
the team i was thinking of is the PAL redskins here in denver.....i have a mexican/black friend who coaches them and runs for ploitics here all the time....he always speaks out against racism.....i just like being a thorn in his side over his team name

by the way it can be argued that redskin may be comparable to n****r
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I see the double standard as:

They're not making native schools change their mascots - Flandreau Indians, Wyoming Indian Chiefs, and many more....nor would I want them to!

Most natives that attended the university formally known as the "Fighting Sioux" were in FAVOR of KEEPING the mascot. That was a sad one to see go.
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I don't think schools really care we have been debating this issue a long time. Where I live our school district is Chippewa Valley which is a huge district in Michigan all the schools have tribal names and half the people don't even know to pronounce the names correctly or anything about these tribes. My children I don't send them to the so called native teaching that's this school district does for the Native students, my kids go to an actual Native Center almost 40 miles away to learn from actual elders. Most people don't even know these are tribal names.
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I attended the San Diego State University American Indian Recruitment Program Annual Banquet (AIR Banquet)

Right outside the AIR Banquet room, the lobby had a SDSU history photo display, to my amazement the school still takes pride in certain photos of a cheerleader in Native headdress:






I always wondered the source of the neon cheerleader over at the nearby shopping centers! Now I know.
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If you are willing to allow a HS mascot to disrupt the above, you're cutting off your nose to save your face. (And acting as prime example of losing focus on what actually matters.)

Personally, I find this -- and most militant crap about mascots -- to just be silly: it represents a classic overreaction due to hypersensitivity which is a significantly larger issue than the butt hurt of a few threatened individuals.

No mascot has ever made me a better or worse Indian. If it ever has to anyone, they need to ask what they're basing their self worth on.
I didn't always agree with Zeke on this sort of thing, but I'm starting to see his point. It seems a littlle bass ackward to worry so much about the mascots high schools use when so many of our young people aren't even graduating high school IMHO.
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i didn't always agree with zeke on this sort of thing, but i'm starting to see his point. It seems a littlle bass ackward to worry so much about the mascots high schools use when so many of our young people aren't even graduating high school imho.
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