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Old 05-28-2013, 10:39 PM   #21
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I must expand on what I wish. Do you understand that, Zeke?
That you lack an ability to intellectually expand on anything?

Yes.

We ALL get that.
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That you lack an ability to intellectually expand on anything?

Yes.

We ALL get that.
No

Look Vince, I came here to express myself freely not to be hazed by some Frank Sutton wannabe.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:16 PM   #23
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Look Vince, I came here to express myself freely not to be hazed by some Frank Sutton wannabe.
1A indicates freedom of expression, not an ability to do so freely. (Ignorance comes with consequences, which is why you cannot yell "fire" in a crowded theater.) In theory, you may utter whatever you desire. In reality, folks will respond to abject lunacy.

As for Frank Sutton, you realize he graduated cum laude from Columbia, right?

Jesus, even your insults are embarrassingly weak.

Yes, you lack the ability to intellectually expand on anything...
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1A indicates freedom of expression, not an ability to do so freely. (Ignorance comes with consequences, which is why you cannot yell "fire" in a crowded theater.) In theory, you may utter whatever you desire. In reality, folks will respond to abject lunacy.

As for Frank Sutton, you realize he graduated cum laude from Columbia, right?

Jesus, even your insults are embarrassingly weak.

Yes, you lack the ability to intellectually expand on anything...
You seem to know a lot about Frank Sutton. He must have made quite an impression upon you some time in your life.

With that said, I see no further reason to continue any communications with someone here who obviously has this much animosity for me. It's very non-productive and beneath me. I realize in order for some people to feel important, they have to belittle others, but in your particular case it seems a weakness of character.

So long Zeke, run along now and go find someone else to troll.
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:29 AM   #25
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You seem to know a lot about Frank Sutton. He must have made quite an impression upon you some time in your life.
It's called doing a modicum of research before opening my mouth: something you should try.

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With that said, I see no further reason to continue any communications with someone here who obviously has this much animosity for me.
Actually, I am merely pro truth and care about you not at all. That you perceive reality as animosity merely speaks of how far your beliefs are from it.

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It's very non-productive and beneath me.
Truth is? Well, at least I know where you're coming from: self-delusional Fantasyland.

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I realize in order for some people to feel important, they have to belittle others...
Which is why you try (and fail) to do so.

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...but in your particular case it seems a weakness of character.
Oh, please. Cigars and scotch are my weaknesses in character.

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So long Zeke, run along now and go find someone else to troll.
Troll? Oh, please. You haven't even piqued my interest beyond being minimally annoying. If I put actual effort into making you appear foolish -- beyond just allowing you to do so on your own -- things might be different.

Alas, they're not.

Keep flailing.
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people who "play indian" dont piss me off until they either

a) make money off it that some indian should be making
b) endanger indians by doing so

i guess i havent been outraged by johnny depp though because he IS an actor and thats what actors do

i get more pissed at the "artists" and fake medicine men
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:20 AM   #27
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people who "play indian" dont piss me off until they either

a) make money off it that some indian should be making
b) endanger indians by doing so

i guess i havent been outraged by johnny depp though because he IS an actor and thats what actors do

i get more pissed at the "artists" and fake medicine men
You realize that if the "artist" made the best product and/or produced it at a cost with superior value you wouldn't have to be "pissed?"

"Make money off it that some Indian should be making."

Every time I see someone say, want, claim or wail about that I think two things:

1. KiowaKat.
2. Someone who is afraid to compete in an open marketplace.

It's that sort of thought which holds back ALL Native people.

As for endangering Indians, are you talking about things like running sweat lodges where people die?

Sure, there are those who believe things like an individual has a reasonable expectation of safety in such a situation. That's cool and we can argue about how much responsibility lies with the provider.

But if you believe you are going to DIE, and you take no personal action to prevent that?

Folks need to look into the mirror, too. Failure to do so isn't because someone else was "playing Indian."
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He is a writer for Rush Limbaugh
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Well , He's done many things , including a stint as Exec. Director of an Indian Center !
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You realize that if the "artist" made the best product and/or produced it at a cost with superior value you wouldn't have to be "pissed?"

"Make money off it that some Indian should be making."

Every time I see someone say, want, claim or wail about that I think two things:

1. KiowaKat.
2. Someone who is afraid to compete in an open marketplace.

It's that sort of thought which holds back ALL Native people.

As for endangering Indians, are you talking about things like running sweat lodges where people die?

Sure, there are those who believe things like an individual has a reasonable expectation of safety in such a situation. That's cool and we can argue about how much responsibility lies with the provider.

But if you believe you are going to DIE, and you take no personal action to prevent that?

Folks need to look into the mirror, too. Failure to do so isn't because someone else was "playing Indian."

This is a BIG problem.

Native beaders put photos on Facebook to sell their items, quite often with tribal or family designs.

Next thing you see is the same items "MADE IN CHINA" being sold EVERYWHRE to include POWOWS.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:21 PM   #32
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This is a BIG problem.

Native beaders put photos on Facebook to sell their items, quite often with tribal or family designs.

Next thing you see is the same items "MADE IN CHINA" being sold EVERYWHRE to include POWOWS.
Uh, then don't put presumably private designs into public media?

There are two choices:

1. Make a highly superior product, priced accordingly.
2. Make a competing product, priced accordingly.

But don't expect folks to pay big $$$ for something that isn't demonstratively superior or avoid something at a lessor price if it is the least bit similar.

FILL THE NEED, don't demand a tariff or protectorate system to generate false equivalence.
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I liked Frank Sutton. He died too young.
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i miss atehequa, wounded bear and matthewbaily

this place is boring without them
Just move to Miami, OK.
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