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Popular Anti-indigenous sentiment. Still think we don't need to fight back?

If you aren't disturbed and motivated to do something by this alarming trend in 'Injun' bashing. There's no hope for you. Bleach your self out and go live with the foreigners. You've already been assimilated.

A note to American journalists: More balance, please!
Indian Country Today February 24, 2006. All Rights Reserved
Posted: February 24, 2006
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Indian country is much more than the dealings of Jack Abramoff and the six tribes he enveloped in his web of dishonest power-mongering. And while the issue of appropriating Indian names and identities - the mascot controversy - is important, it, too, is a minor focus in the fundamental issue of tribal sovereignty survival and the preservation of tribal cultural integrity.

Indian country's history, relative to and within the United States, is long and deep. There is excellent research about this complex history, but it is mostly unreported and often confused in media. Thus, it is widely ignored by the general public.

The American Indian tribal population is a small minority, but it is indigenous to the Americas and has maintained the right to be self-governing as specific tribal nations that still hold territories within the United States.

The justification used to legalize the forced taking of Indian lands and resources - the ''discovery'' by Christian nations of ''heathen'' peoples, cited again in a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision - might be seen to be severely ethnocentric, a justification for the illegal taking of the property of others.

In its own quest to develop as a just society, the United States adopted important doctrines designed to remedy this fundamental injustice by accepting that Native nations were and are still organized as large kinship entities that hold lands and sustain cultures in common. Myriad wars, treaties, court cases and public campaigns testify to the continuous existence of Native nations. Decade by decade since the 1600s, townships, states and the federal government have been required to recognize this reality.

How it treats its first and most dispossessed of citizens - the Native peoples who still reside and exist within its territories - is hugely important for America as the rest of the world watches its intentions. The Native nations, with whom the United States transacted its claim to reside and to impose its supra-sovereignty over the land, have a resonant place in U.S. history and in world cultural history. At a time when tribal nations throughout the world wonder if there is still a place for them in their regions of origin and when small and big nations ponder the misery and war facing their future generations, the actions and intents of the United States relative to its Native nations are closely watched.

''Great nations, like great men, should keep their word,'' wrote Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black, in his dissent on the Federal Power Commission v. Tuscarora Indian Nation case in 1960. Dominated but not defeated or destroyed, the distinct Native nations exist, even after giving and relinquishing to the United States great land holdings of their nations. There is no denying that the lands and resources of Native nations provided the wealth upon which the United States is built.

The tribal gaming era is relatively young and touches just over a third of Native nations. Of those, maybe two dozen have experienced super-windfalls. All support tribal services in education, health, governance, energy and environmental quality. The rest of Indian country is still in serious poverty, facing the bigotry of ignorance in reservation border towns and the most incompetent and recalcitrant federal bureaucracy ever assembled. In the Abramoff scandal, of the six tribes involved, some were duplicitous while others were certainly duped by the Republican operative and associates. These, ''the tribes in question,'' are but a small sliver in the universe of the 562 American Indian and Alaska Native tribes, of which 220 tribes run gaming houses, and hardly represent the more than 500,000 Native families in reservations and urban areas throughout the country.

Is it too much to ask that perhaps one or another of the hundred or so talking heads that get regular national television time could just once say: ''A handful of Indian tribes, six out of nearly 600 Native nations and tribes in the country, are involved in the Abramoff case''? Is it too much to hope that just one of the major news channels would profile Indian country issues with more depth? That something could be done to get the media beyond the superficiality and distortion of Indian country?

The tribes involved with Abramoff relied on a lobbyist who was extremely well-connected, and let him direct a good chunk of their charitable and political contributions. The tribes in question naively connived with a master conniver and, like a run-over skunk on a lonesome highway, now permeate the universe of Indian community- and nation-building endeavors.

Yet the reality, even for these tribes, is that the proximity to Abramoff over a period of two to four years involved just a few tribal officials and usually was contested by other groups within the tribes. At best, it is but a temporary if embarrassing blip in historical time. These are correctable mistakes - honest or dishonest - and should not tarnish ongoing governmental process as long as measures are taken to clean up the poor decision-making and accountability that produced the costly mistakes. This is best done and/or suggested by the tribes' own legal initiatives.

Some pundits have come quickly to the arena armed for combat with ''the Indians.'' With the Abramoff affair brewing, the attack is on the general intent of the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act, which is consistently misinterpreted for the general public. No matter that the tribes in question, while skirting ethical standards, have not been indicted for illegal acts, from The Wall Street Journal to the National Review the knives are flying about the supposed rampant corruption among the gaming tribes.

When it comes to American Indians, all manner of cheap shots are tolerated - and not just from the right. From the left, liberal publications seem to strive to prove their conservative balance by beating up on the concept of Indian tribal sovereignty and self-government, without examining that this policy is precisely what has allowed some measure of justice to the American Indian populations.

The normally balanced New York Times weighed in Feb. 19 with a sensational and horribly directed front-page article that pretends to indict a whole Mohawk community for the actions of a particular criminal sector. The unfairly focused article by Sarah Kershaw, ''Drug Traffickers Find Haven in Shadows of Indian Country,'' is an invitation to media gang-banging on Indian sovereignty and may ultimately prove more destructive than the Abramoff scandal.

That criminal activity Kershaw described involves the type of border smuggling operations that are replicated throughout the length of both Canadian and Mexican borders, as well as through the huge gaps in coastal security. It is real enough, but Kershaw breathlessly hyped its cause as tribal sovereignty and the Indian people generally, completely ignoring how severely despised this criminal element is by the large majority of reservation families, the Mohawk tribal government and the traditional longhouses.

The language of termination is heard by the ideologically driven critics. In these pages recently, we analyzed the consistent language of termination introduced by prominent writers such as Holman Jenkins Jr., a member of the editorial board of The Wall Street Journal, who railed against those ''defunct tribes'' and their ''enduring nonsense of Indian 'sovereignty.''' Jenkins bemoaned the surprising resilience of any ''Indian sovereignty,'' pining for an illusive termination from Indian friend, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., an unlikely prospect. "But even that may come,'' Jenkins hopes, because the ''backlash'' against tribal sovereignty ''[is] already on the way.'' This is intense anti-Indian tribal rights argumentation. It is being heard across the country and the chorus will continue to croak in the lineup - a dangerous mantra that the media herd too willingly now carries as ''truth.''

We welcome the participation of Indian journalists and all journalists in the debate surrounding the Abramoff case and other easy ''beat up on Indians'' stories. As easy and erroneous references and skewed angles are used when Indian country sectors are covered, it is crucial that all Indian country pens be ready to answer the intent of the coverage and the terms of analysis employed on all Indian-related issues. We welcome all emergent opinion leaders into the active defense of the legal and historical bases for tribal distinctiveness and self-government.

American Indian peoples are in a serious fight again this time. A media stampede in the wrong direction can set the conditions that will trample our rights and our realities. The left flank normally represented by The New York Times just bolted Feb. 19, following the path of using a story on a negative situation about drugs and smuggling into an attack on the right of tribal government and even on the very character of the whole population of a tribal nation.

No doubt, media hype can usher an ugly, bigoted time for Indians. Solid strategies and a great deal of creativity - and a strong campaign kitty - are required to make our better cases to the media, and directly to the American public.
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I am from WA. St. I don't think it is something to worry about. We have 3 casinos, an I haven't heard anything amiss , We have a mine an mill to worry about, Our local papers are not saying anything, New York is a long way off
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I wish more people would focus on real issues like this rather than the fakes etc. Take for instance the kennewick man so some tribes have fought to rebury him which isnt the real issue underlying the kennewick man. The real issue is if he is apparently unrelated to us, then they will use that to further undermine our indigenous rights. If we arent the first then we have no indigenous rights. It doesn't matter if we are a genetic descendant of a mix of different ethnic migrations they will say we are only of the asian stock and asians were not the first here therefore you must have killed the others that preceded you. Therefore what the whites did to you is the same as what you did to the "real indigenous people"

Doesn't anyone get the fact that whites don't give a rip if we believe we were created here. If they start believing above then you can forget about whatever little soveriegnty we have.
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No they can't use Kennewick Man against us because they can't prove he was here before any of us... the only thing that they could use that against us in being able to keep those remains because he was unrelated to any of the WA nations.

Rvrsd... I don't know if you are just clueless or what. Was'nt it a senator or governor in Washington State that said he would use military force if necessary against the indians there over something a year or two ago? (I can't remember the exact event right this moment sorry).
Here's something else to keep in mind... if your nation goes up in court to fight for it's rights and is ruled against.. that judgement sets a standard for every court should any other nation choose to fight in court over similar rights. If you don't believe me, go look up Tuscarora vrs. Power. That happened back in the 60's and to this day was a ruling that upholds federal government taking portions of our lands for "greater good" uses. In Tuscarora Vrs. Power, it meant that one third of our reservation was taken to make a water reservoir for the power company. Compensated of course, but we did'nt want them to take that land and were forced to give it up anyhow.
Oniedas lost a court case saying that the land that they purchased with their land claim settlement money was not soveriegn indian land because they waited too long to get that land back. Because of this decision, The Cayugas were told the same thing, and they lost a huge part of thier settlement...

It goes on and on....
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this is not the only issue we have but a good one too....well my opinion again... it's sad ....go ahead and let them wannabe's take ove and the FAKES AND FRAUDS, eventually its gonna be that way...Cultural Integritity will be ruined.....we need to fight for all the rights of our sovereign nations not just one or two... Over looking fake and frauds will only undermind our plight as much as any other issue concerning native americans
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I wish more people would focus on real issues like this rather than the fakes etc. Take for instance the kennewick man so some tribes have fought to rebury him which isnt the real issue underlying the kennewick man. The real issue is if he is apparently unrelated to us, then they will use that to further undermine our indigenous rights. If we arent the first then we have no indigenous rights. It doesn't matter if we are a genetic descendant of a mix of different ethnic migrations they will say we are only of the asian stock and asians were not the first here therefore you must have killed the others that preceded you. Therefore what the whites did to you is the same as what you did to the "real indigenous people"

Doesn't anyone get the fact that whites don't give a rip if we believe we were created here. If they start believing above then you can forget about whatever little soveriegnty we have.
its all connected and related Gache...the fakes ,termination,etc...its all part of a bigger picture
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of course it is all connected but what I am saying is the fakes and frauds are the superficial face of a much more inciduous threat natives still face.

For one cultural extinction in death of language though I am glad to see many places are working to preserve theirs. I feel much more drastic steps are needed like language fluency as a requirement for citzenship like many nations in this world require.

Ghettofication of our youth.
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Lack of an interconnected indian movement. Though the jews argue like cats and dogs they stick up for each other in a myriad of ways. Especially economically indians dont really support each other economically. The internet could change that.

Sterotyping of native america exists and we are all aware of it from hippies to new age but the real stuff is the history books and how it minimizes our civilizations and their success which leaves open for people with agendas to pass on lies of our history to justify their agenda. I give the new smithsonian a C- for its attempts. Heck most indians are brainwashed by the textbooks and believe the crap in them than what has been discovered in the last 10-20 years in archealogy.

Remember blackbear the nazi party just needed bits of truth mixed with volumes of lies to carry out their agenda. Thats all an anti-indian agenda needs to win. They dont need to convince us just white people. White people clamour for a desire to justify their existence on this continent.

Our uniqueness is one of our most powerful defenses, the more we blend in with the whites the less defense we have against anti-indian propaganda and agenda. The more we are unique the greater our defense will be.
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of course it is all connected but what I am saying is the fakes and frauds are the superficial face of a much more inciduous threat natives still face.

For one cultural extinction in death of language though I am glad to see many places are working to preserve theirs. I feel much more drastic steps are needed like language fluency as a requirement for citzenship like many nations in this world require.

Ghettofication of our youth.
Racial intermarriage
Lack of an interconnected indian movement. Though the jews argue like cats and dogs they stick up for each other in a myriad of ways. Especially economically indians dont really support each other economically. The internet could change that.

Sterotyping of native america exists and we are all aware of it from hippies to new age but the real stuff is the history books and how it minimizes our civilizations and their success which leaves open for people with agendas to pass on lies of our history to justify their agenda. I give the new smithsonian a C- for its attempts. Heck most indians are brainwashed by the textbooks and believe the crap in them than what has been discovered in the last 10-20 years in archealogy.

Remember blackbear the nazi party just needed bits of truth mixed with volumes of lies to carry out their agenda. Thats all an anti-indian agenda needs to win. They dont need to convince us just white people. White people clamour for a desire to justify their existence on this continent.

Our uniqueness is one of our most powerful defenses, the more we blend in with the whites the less defense we have against anti-indian propaganda and agenda. The more we are unique the greater our defense will be.
i couldnt agree with you more...and sadly,there are few people in the big picture who do care and do see whats going on and so we have to tackle all or as many of the above issues and all the others...there is a huge and growing anti-indian sentiment in this country..not that it has ever truly disappeared but theres been numerous news stories recently about anti-treaty rights ,anti-casino groups and they scare me...its open and outward racism...politicians making racial slurs in public forums...what concerns me greatly are the plastic medicine people...they undermine our ceremonies and spirituality and the Elder's Circle has said this is of the greatest concern...i dont argue with Elders
there is a situation very near to me here in WA going on now where non tribal members that cross the tulalip res are saying that tribal police have no authority to issue them traffic citations...they want to push the issue in court,it will help set precident in other cases involving jurisdictional and sovereignty issues more of the same old same old...
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No they can't use Kennewick Man against us because they can't prove he was here before any of us... the only thing that they could use that against us in being able to keep those remains because he was unrelated to any of the WA nations.

Rvrsd... I don't know if you are just clueless or what. Was'nt it a senator or governor in Washington State that said he would use military force if necessary against the indians there over something a year or two ago? (I can't remember the exact event right this moment sorry).
Here's something else to keep in mind... if your nation goes up in court to fight for it's rights and is ruled against.. that judgement sets a standard for every court should any other nation choose to fight in court over similar rights. If you don't believe me, go look up Tuscarora vrs. Power. That happened back in the 60's and to this day was a ruling that upholds federal government taking portions of our lands for "greater good" uses. In Tuscarora Vrs. Power, it meant that one third of our reservation was taken to make a water reservoir for the power company. Compensated of course, but we did'nt want them to take that land and were forced to give it up anyhow.
Oniedas lost a court case saying that the land that they purchased with their land claim settlement money was not soveriegn indian land because they waited too long to get that land back. Because of this decision, The Cayugas were told the same thing, and they lost a huge part of thier settlement...

It goes on and on....
that sounds like the former republican senator from WA,slade gorton's platform in 2000 BB ...he wrote more anti-indian legislation that any other congressman in US history...he was pushing for total termination of ALL tribes in WA among other things such as bulldozing the res's...the casino tribes here banned togther and supported the democratic candidate and he won,ousting gorton
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Was'nt it a senator or governor in Washington State that said he would use military force if necessary against the indians there over something a year or two ago? ...
This refers to the Skagit County delegate to the Washington State Republical Party's 2000 Convention in Spokane, John Fleming, a non-Indian resident of a small "yuppie" community located within the Swinomish Indian Resevation. Fleming introduced a Resolution to the Convention calling for the termination of all tribal governments.

Here is the story from the Spokane Spokesman-Review:

The Washington state Republican Party has passed a resolution calling for the abolition of tribal governments. "We do not recognize them as sovereign nations, as governments," said John Fleming, the Skagit County delegate who was a main author of the resolution. It calls on the federal government to "immediately take whatever steps necessary to terminate all such non-republican forms of government on Indian reservations."

"We think it can be done peacefully," Fleming said. But if tribes were to fight the effort, "then the U.S. Army and the Air Force and the Marines and the National Guard are going to have to battle back."

The action comes at a time of growing discontent over reservation rules that affect non-Indians, ranging from hunting privileges to liquor sales. The backlash against tribal governments has become so strong that human-rights activists have labeled it "racist."

Tribal leaders call the GOP resolution outrageous and an affront to their rights under treaties signed by Congress.

"It's absolutely the reverse of what Republican principles stand for_ to protect all rights and to uphold the integrity and honor of this nation and all of the commitments it makes," said Ron Allen, chairman of the Jamestown S'Klallam Tribe.

Allen is vice president of the National Congress of American Indians. A Republican, he was surprised to hear about the resolution approved June 17 during the Republican state convention in Spokane.

"The Republican Party nationally has been making some effort to improve its image with regards to its relationship with the Indian nations," Allen said. "This is polarizing. It's the opposite of what they should be doing."

Beth Jensen, chairwoman of the GOP platform committee, said she had no idea how the writers of the resolution intend for termination to be carried out.

Her committee sent seven resolutions to the 1,300 delegates with a "do pass" recommendation. Among other resolutions were ones calling on the federal government to preserve hydropower dams and to drop its lawsuit against Microsoft Corp.

Although some resolutions were heavily debated, the one dealing with tribal governments was barely discussed, Jensen said.

"I was so unfamiliar with the issue that I wasn't totally focused on what the debate was. It seems like what was being said was, there were acts by the tribal governments that weren't the way we do government in America," she said. "A couple of people gave examples to people who didn't have a clue, and it passed."

The committee considered 29 resolutions in two hours' time, she said. "I wish we had the luxury, the time to discuss them."

Fleming lives within the Swinomish Reservation. He refers to tribal governments as "non-republican" because non-Indian reservation residents can't vote in tribal elections. That makes them illegal under the U.S. and state constitutions, he contends.

In 1994, Fleming began trying to persuade the Republican Party in Skagit County to pass a resolution. This year he succeeded. "Out of 250 delegates, only two people said no. They were tribal members or the mother of tribal members," he said.

The Skagit delegates to the state convention championed the cause in Spokane. Now, Fleming wants Washington's delegates to work the idea into the national GOP platform.

Supporters of the cause hope that a class action eventually will find its way to the U.S. Supreme Court and that the court then would rule tribal governments illegal.

"The key to this is making people aware," Fleming said.

Fleming has written many essays attacking tribal sovereignty. He is active in regional and national organizations that oppose treaty rights. Asked if he is anti-Indian, he replied: "Oh my God, no."

The Northwest Coalition for Human Dignity has concluded that efforts to abolish tribal government are racist. Coalition researcher Robert Crawford called the GOP resolution "disturbing." "I wouldn't say it's a majority view. It's in line with the hard core of anti-Indian folks within the party such as (Sen.) Slade Gorton and (Rep.) Jack Metcalf," he said.

Termination was the focus of the government's Indian policy in the mid-20th century, he noted.

"In the 1950s and '60s we rampantly violated the rights of tribes," Crawford said. "We can do better than this."
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do you have any idea what the yuppie town inside swinomish res is? i live in skagit county but wasnt here in 2000...gorton also ran on the same basic idea and had wide spread support for his platform...i lived on the olympic peninsula for a while and the anti indian sentiment is very strong out there...many trucks have anti treaty rights stickers on them etc...seems to be a little better here in skagit county...i think when the tribes worked togther in 2000 and people saw that with the casino money backing them,the tribes were/are a political force...
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Remember blackbear the nazi party just needed bits of truth mixed with volumes of lies to carry out their agenda. Thats all an anti-indian agenda needs to win. They dont need to convince us just white people. White people clamour for a desire to justify their existence on this continent.

Right, I do remember this, but Kennewick was already established to have not been from there and I think I did read that his remains were given to the native nation that was close to where he was found. I was simply saying that he could'nt be used against us. But like I said once before in another thread, regardless of whether we were always here, or migrated here from somewhere else.. we were here first and had been here for thousands of years before they got here. So... the only justification they need for themselves is desire.
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thanks Sokoki and Wakalapi! Yes that was exactly what I was talking about.
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of course it is all connected but what I am saying is the fakes and frauds are the superficial face of a much more inciduous threat natives still face. ...
...Remember blackbear the nazi party just needed bits of truth mixed with volumes of lies to carry out their agenda. Thats all an anti-indian agenda needs to win. They dont need to convince us just white people. White people clamour for a desire to justify their existence on this continent.
most everything u say is true. but like u said fakes and frauds are the superficial face. then later unrelated u say they dont need to convince ndn'd just white ppl. This might be one of the ways u change the laws and issues concerning natives. by changing the way the general public views native america can change the way the govt. handles ndn issues. the ndn wars of the 1800s shows that (ever so slightly).
And sorry but most white ppl dont look to justify their existence in a country they were born too. In fact, the further from ndn communities the more u find most white ppl dont even think of ndn's except maybe at thanksgiving. this fact alone shows why the govt. is able to treat ndn's the way they do. there's no public outcry of foul as there is nowdays concerning the treatment of survivors of katrina. But banding together as ndn's who are from seperate tribes but with common goals can only help, the jewish and african american communitys are proof of this.
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this is not the only issue we have but a good one too....well my opinion again... it's sad ....go ahead and let them wannabe's take ove and the FAKES AND FRAUDS, eventually its gonna be that way...Cultural Integritity will be ruined.....we need to fight for all the rights of our sovereign nations not just one or two... Over looking fake and frauds will only undermind our plight as much as any other issue concerning native americans
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I would not be at powows.com without an invitation.
I am German, not a German fake. But even in Germany there are a lot of fakers earning money with selling 'Indian'(not really) crafts and jewelry. And they are reading 'SUN BEAR' books . They are building up tipis and are trying to sing and dance like your folk.
They will not succeed in all these things.
A lot of people are really seriously interested in your history and culture and they are sad about what happened to you, your folk and your country.
They are remembering 'Hitler', 'Nazis' who burned their-our-families, shot them or poisoned them with gas. Babies. Children. But it was not for such a long time as you suffer.
I think it is good to be careful.
WhoMe said, history is repeated in another country. Iraq. I think he is right. We have to be careful and watch out. Germans aswell.
Hope you don't mind a German to reply to your thread and to your reply. Best wishes.
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I think it's called Shelter Bay or something like that, a gated private community down the first road on your left as soon as you get across the Rainbow Bridge. You actually have to drive a hundred feet or so around the curve and there's a security guard booth.

I worked for Swinomish Tribe as a temp a couple of years ago. Shelter Bay is a predominantly upper-middle class non-NDN neighborhood with a reputation for fighting tooth and nail against any assertion of tribal sovereignty.

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I agree. I have friends from the Makah, Quilleyute and Quinault reservations, and friends near Sequim. The economy is largely based on logging and the spotted owl controversy really charged many people up against anything they can associate with "progressive" or "environmental", and they know that NDN's tend to be politically both. So if we are the political enemy, then anything dear to us must be destroyed.
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You know I truly believe that most of our issues should be solved in a peaceful, diplomatic way, but when it comes to groups like UCE and OneNation, I have no problem with being aggressive. These are two groups who claim not to be racist, yet all their actions speak otherwise. And the biggest thing they do to stir the pot is to put a non-native public view on natives as being greedy, un-american people with super human rights. They totally skirt the fact that we ARE soveriegn nations with rights protected by the federal government and not "wards of the state". In doing this they get large communities of people to stand with them against us. The project hatred in the form of concern for their own, which is not the true agenda.
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I think it's called Shelter Bay or something like that, a gated private community down the first road on your left as soon as you get across the Rainbow Bridge. You actually have to drive a hundred feet or so around the curve and there's a security guard booth.

I worked for Swinomish Tribe as a temp a couple of years ago. Shelter Bay is a predominantly upper-middle class non-NDN neighborhood with a reputation for fighting tooth and nail against any assertion of tribal sovereignty.


I agree. I have friends from the Makah, Quilleyute and Quinault reservations, and friends near Sequim. The economy is largely based on logging and the spotted owl controversy really charged many people up against anything they can associate with "progressive" or "environmental", and they know that NDN's tend to be politically both. So if we are the political enemy, then anything dear to us must be destroyed.
wasnt sure if it was shelter bay or that community down by the sound...if you go to the church after the rainbow bridge and turn left and go up the hill...out that road theres a bunch of house(all non-ndn owned) and a fancy resturant...ive heard the same about the people down there too...thats whats going on at tulalip too...the leases on the ppl's houses are all expiring and the Tulalips are trying to clean and restore that part of puget sound and have said to either move the houses or sell them to the tribe to be demolished...the house owners are in an up roar...and thats lead to the issue of tribal police having jusidiction etc
the biggets anti - ndn issue i saw on the peninsula was the hunting and fishing/shell fish gathering rights issue...of course theres also the casino issue but thats everywhere...
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You know I truly believe that most of our issues should be solved in a peaceful, diplomatic way, but when it comes to groups like UCE and OneNation, I have no problem with being aggressive. These are two groups who claim not to be racist, yet all their actions speak otherwise. And the biggest thing they do to stir the pot is to put a non-native public view on natives as being greedy, un-american people with super human rights. They totally skirt the fact that we ARE soveriegn nations with rights protected by the federal government and not "wards of the state". In doing this they get large communities of people to stand with them against us. The project hatred in the form of concern for their own, which is not the true agenda.
its the same as what hitler and the far right christian coalitions do...they incite people thru fear and ignorance ..."us" and "them"...and yes groups like this hide under property protection guises or anti casino but its all racist....when someone puts in a mall and makes a profit from it theres never an outcrying like there is with a casino...what these ignorant people fail to see,is that casinos provide alot of work and economic support for the entire surrounding communties,not just the ndn populations...personally i think in simplistic terms,it boils down to a case of a group of people jealous because another group has rights they dont have...it didnt matter the centuries that we were denied the same rights of course...true hypocracy in action..
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what these ignorant people fail to see,is that casinos provide alot of work and economic support for the entire surrounding communties,not just the ndn populations...personally i think in simplistic terms,it boils down to a case of a group of people jealous because another group has rights they dont have...it didnt matter the centuries that we were denied the same rights of course...true hypocracy in action..
You know how they are fighting this as of late? Letting people know that if you work for the casinos, that you don't have AMERICAN rights because you are now on indian grounds, and you can't sue for falling down and injuring yourself ... now they were fair enough to include statements from the seneca casinos that if there was just reason for a payment for someone's injury asides medical bills, that they've paid out and compesated. But they still got the sentiment across that "you are'nt getting any money out of the indians" and "working for them does'nt pay off".
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