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Old 01-02-2007, 02:27 AM   #21
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The question is...why not just say CHEROKEE? Why do people have to use 1/4 or 1/8 when they mention their tribe? When I hear people say 1/8 or 1/4 it makes me NOT believe them as much.
Yeah, what's with that?? Why can't this guy be proud of being 7/8 white?! Now that's a believable percentage!!

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Yeah, what's with that?? Why can't this guy be proud of being 7/8 white?! Now that's a believable percentage!!

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That's really Heavy Duty Man!!! Ho Wah!!!!

I'm almost at a loss for words here, which is rare thing for this skin... But All I have to say is that:

It is dishonorable to get feathers in that manner. That is bad medicine. Feathers are earned or inherited.

That article made me aggravated then sad...




It was an interesting read and it needs to be spread.
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The question is...why not just say CHEROKEE? Why do people have to use 1/4 or 1/8 when they mention their tribe? When I hear people say 1/8 or 1/4 it makes me NOT believe them as much.
Disclosure. If somebody just said Cherokee and left out the fact that they were 1/8 or 1/4 only, and you later found that out, wouldn't you feel misled? Besides, it can be complicated being mixed blood - always having to explain to the Indians about the non-Indian ways you have and explaining to the non-Indians about the Indian ways you have and all of them looking at you like you're touched in the head. You just get into the habit of describing your lineage up front to save yourself the aggravation later.
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good point.

well, we can just use the "dont askk, dont tell" POV. seems to work in the armed forces.....or does it?

As a white guy, I dont really care about someones percentage. I would assume NDNs feel the opposite. All I care about is that you arent spreading false facts or using your status to gain anything.
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good point.

All I care about is that you arent spreading false facts or using your status to gain anything.
Yep, that's pretty much what matters.
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"Powwows are the biggest killer of eagles".

Pow Wow's aren't the biggest killer of eagles. People are the biggest killer of eagles. People with no traditions. Among the traditional people on the plains, eagle feathers are earned for acts of bravery. Maybe we need to start calling on those people wearing those feathers and have them tell their stories of bravery to the people, like the veteran's do when they pick up a feather.

Now that would be interesting to hear.
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sorry, can't stop jokin'

Ok, so what would REALLY be funny is to bring up the folks in turkey and pigeon feather bustles and ask them how they earned THOSE little beauties!!! haha


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Pow Wow's aren't the biggest killer of eagles. People are the biggest killer of eagles. People with no traditions. Among the traditional people on the plains, eagle feathers are earned for acts of bravery. Maybe we need to start calling on those people wearing those feathers and have them tell their stories of bravery to the people, like the veteran's do when they pick up a feather.

Now that would be interesting to hear.
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Pow Wow's aren't the biggest killer of eagles. People are the biggest killer of eagles. People with no traditions. Among the traditional people on the plains, eagle feathers are earned for acts of bravery. Maybe we need to start calling on those people wearing those feathers and have them tell their stories of bravery to the people, like the veteran's do when they pick up a feather.

Now that would be interesting to hear.
I like it.
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Ok, so what would REALLY be funny is to bring up the folks in turkey and pigeon feather bustles and ask them how they earned THOSE little beauties!!! haha



I can picture it now:

Someone comes up to the microphone and announces his name as chief of the XXX nation. He then proceeds to tell of the bravery he has in rescuing the feathers from a lowlife grubby guy who had them in a paper bag. He rescued them at a great cost. 20 bucks a feather. Yea RIGHT!!!!!!!! SURE!!!!

Then there's the guy who will proudly announces that his eagle feathers on his bustle are "genuine immatation hand painted eagle feathers" Blessed be the turkey who gave his life for those eagle feathers. The turkey tasted great too! LOL!!!

Now with the funny stuff out of the way. I have some great feathers for sale. Bright yellow and green. My canary feathers make a great bustle for a G.I. Joe doll.

Most kids have toy circus stuff and cowboy and indian stuff. Why can't our kids have toy powwow stuff to play with.

Hey! It's only fair.

Oops!!! I shouldn't have said anything until I got the patent on the idea. Matel Toys may be watching.

Any Hoo...... Anyone who sells eagle anything should scalped then shot at sunset. WoW!!! What a great opening to a 49
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You are correct! It will never sell to ndn kids. They are a little too smart for that one! LOL!

On the other hand there was once an NDN Barbie that I did date for a while in high school. Ah.... the good old days!
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You are correct! It will never sell to ndn kids. They are a little too smart for that one! LOL!

On the other hand there was once an NDN Barbie that I did date for a while in high school. Ah.... the good old days!
Did she wear high heeled moccasins? Sorry, just the thought of those has my imagination running wild. Fully beaded spike heals.....
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Did she wear high heeled moccasins? Sorry, just the thought of those has my imagination running wild. Fully beaded spike heals.....
With her figure and her taste in clothing, she could have gotten away with fully beaded heals back in the late 60s early 70s. The last time I saw Barb was at my 30yr high school reunion. She still looks yummy!
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Isn't it...

Absolutely ridiculous when a dancer adorns himself with more feathers then the bird? Some bustles i've seen are pathetic.....Hey 2 each their own....I prefer older styles....Oh and it's not just eagles being poached....It boils down to the individual though....How can you "blame" or accuse the Dance? I suppose next we'll hear a number of other doings are contributing to the demise of something....Folks should be careful on both sides of the fence....Who ya gonna trust?
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....It boils down to the individual though....How can you "blame" or accuse the Dance? I suppose next we'll hear a number of other doings are contributing to the demise of something....Folks should be careful on both sides of the fence....Who ya gonna trust?

Yote,

You made some good points.

I have been sitting on this one (article) for a while.

In looking at the other side of the fence...

"America did not have eagle conservation problems before EuroAmerican westward expansion."



Indian people the main eagle killers? Duh???? I don't think so. Putting the deaths of eagles today, into perspective....

"Most eagles are killed from powerlines, poisons, netting, road kills and captivity in zoos."
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Nothing wrong with a good convo....

But c'mon.....? I ignored this thread for sometime....out of "assuming" it was ridiculous....Ironically their will be people out there who fantasize it though....If Powwows or Skins are the greatest killers of Eagles...Well I suppose Wolves are responsible for the depletion of Caribou herds up North? In acuality the Wolf saves the herd by hunting or eliminating weak or diseased Caribou....Now I certainly don't condone poaching and yes it does exist, but as usual Who Me set it straight.....
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