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Old 07-21-2005, 04:06 PM   #1
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Does anyone know if we have a seat at the UN conferences? Or how many soveriegn nations are present?
If not, how do we get there? As a soveriegn nation I would think that would be an important step to take.
Also, with the upcoming war with China, do we have them as allies?
If China becomes World Power, how do we get them to honor our soveriegn rights/treaties/etc?
Who do we need to write/talk to, to get our Tribal Leaders to secure these rights for us?
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Unless the US grants some type of representation...I am 99% sure that there is not tribal presence on the United Nations...I am also willing to bet that such representation is not permitted by the US or at least would have to be ratified by Congress. The soveriegn nation provision still makes the Indian nations subject to Federal Law, oversight, etc.
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So, no one is interested in having China as an ally? Or just too scared to even talk about it?
Might be our one chance to get our land back...any thoughts?
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The iroquois send representatives to the UN every year I believe. I was just reading about some of it the other night but I'm too tired to remember details. I know Mad Bear went to Cuba to ask Fidel Castro to sponsor the Tuscarora to sit in .. and Castro did, however Mad Bear was not acting as a true representative of the Tuscarora (he just always went out ambassadoring like he was or something). Back in the 70's is when this happened and there were more than just iroquois representatives there.. there were lakota and navajo... it was huge, but I don't know how many still send people, or how much of a voice they have.
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yes, the Chinese are known for their good treatment of indigenous peoples. Have you studied Chinese history at all, over the last, oh, 5,000 years?
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I am preparing myself to work for the U.N. At least, as an interpreter. I think it would be an awesome job. I have only 1 year left of study! Whoo hoo!!
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yes, the Chinese are known for their good treatment of indigenous peoples. Have you studied Chinese history at all, over the last, oh, 5,000 years?
Yes, I have studied chinese history. America isn't so great either and yet they jump at every chance to 'help' other nations in need.
Just because China doesn't want THEIR indigenous ppl, doesn't mean they should be discounted as a possible ally to indigenous ppl here.
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Just asking.. but why do you think being an idigenous nation in the US or Canada be so important to have China as an ally? I'm just curious.
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Because China is already threatening to nuke the U.S. and Bush is using the media to ready the American ppl to go to war with them. And, I think America will lose and China will be world power. And, if China is world power, then I'd rather have them as an ally, rather than an enemy, kwim?
Also, China is three times wealthier than America and if we had them as allies, we could create trade agreements, etc that would empower our nations and help us regain our rights.
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hey mia why dont you take yer head outta where the sun dont shine..and quit relying on white newspapers..and become a real indian... see whats really happening... do i have to tell you... news
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hey mia why dont you take yer head outta where the sun dont shine..and quit relying on white newspapers..and become a real indian... see whats really happening... do i have to tell you... news
Thought personal attacks on this forum aren't allowed?
Maybe you need to read the news.
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yeah ok..what paper? lol
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Because China is already threatening to nuke the U.S. and Bush is using the media to ready the American ppl to go to war with them. And, I think America will lose and China will be world power. And, if China is world power, then I'd rather have them as an ally, rather than an enemy, kwim?
Also, China is three times wealthier than America and if we had them as allies, we could create trade agreements, etc that would empower our nations and help us regain our rights.

I don't know if even the 'News of the World' or other tabloids, who make a living coming up with bizarre scenarios, could improve on this! China is threatening to 'nuke' the U.S. Bush 'uses' the media, who obey him (yeah, right!) to stir up war with China....China is 3 times wealthier than America???? (geeez why do they keep emmigrating then???)
China takes over world control, and empowers NDNS...uh huh...and Elvises clone's gonna come out of the bermuda triangle...assume dictatorial powers...in conjunction with aliens....and make the whole world Graceland!!!
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I don't know if even the 'News of the World' or other tabloids, who make a living coming up with bizarre scenarios, could improve on this! China is threatening to 'nuke' the U.S. Bush 'uses' the media, who obey him (yeah, right!) to stir up war with China....China is 3 times wealthier than America???? (geeez why do they keep emmigrating then???)
China takes over world control, and empowers NDNS...uh huh...and Elvises clone's gonna come out of the bermuda triangle...assume dictatorial powers...in conjunction with aliens....and make the whole world Graceland!!!
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Because China is already threatening to nuke the U.S. and Bush is using the media to ready the American ppl to go to war with them. And, I think America will lose and China will be world power. And, if China is world power, then I'd rather have them as an ally, rather than an enemy, kwim?
Also, China is three times wealthier than America and if we had them as allies, we could create trade agreements, etc that would empower our nations and help us regain our rights.
Do you honestly think that if China were to take over, that they would still see us as indigenous soveriegn nations? Our people join all branches of the military to fight for this country in time of war,because it still belongs to us as well. The way you have just worded this sounds like a rat abandoning a ship. Listen carefully.... China is still a communist country. Communism... Commie.... and COMMUNISTS, they tell you what rights you got...not help you regain them.
Seriously though.. is this some tabloid paranioa stuff or what?
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LOL I'm a member of "the media" and trust me, we don't listen to our management 3/4 of the time. haha

anyway, of course the Chinese would see everybody in America as Americans, and if you think Chinese treaties and alliances mean anything, you should go revisit your history books. I mean, white people consider them to be untrustworthy -- wha's that tell ya?
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Ok seriously...China is projected to have a larger GDP in some ten years...they are no where close to touching the economic power of the US...not to mention that most of China's economic infrastructure is a result of US development and investment meaning even if China has a greater GDP than the US, the US will still have significant influence over it...US business people are not dumb.

China has not threatened to bomb the US...in fact China has been trying to get on the good side of the US (participation in N. Korea nuclear talks, etc) as it realizes the importance of US to its own economic growth.

Finally, if you have ever examined recent Chinese human rights and the manner in which agreements are approached, you will note that any alliance with them will last only as long as you provide benefit to their interest...no offense to everyone, but I doubt specific reservations can make a case for contributing the strategic wealth/military power of China.
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China is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the US if it is attacked by Washington during a confrontation over Taiwan, a Chinese general said on Thursday.
This is in an article dated August 8, 2005
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Hopefully, no one here is stupid enough to think America, Canada, Central America, or South America would be our allies. They are what got us to this point in the first place.
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Actually, the article is dated July 14, 2005...
here is a link that has the entire article.....
Cina ready to use nuclear weapons

China has revalued their yuan...here is another link
China Revaluation

Another link...BBC News
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China's yuan has gained against the US dollar in its second session of trading after currency limits were relaxed for the first time in a decade last week.
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