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Old 03-26-2013, 06:12 PM   #1
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Whoa, after watching that second one, I feel like I just tripped out on funny incense in a New Age book store....


Talking strictly about the second one. Could we please give the mystic, 19th century plains warrior a night off? He's tired from sitting for too many photo shoots with E.S. Curtis and posing for bad western art. He's sick of flute music and would like to kick back with some vintage Rolling Stones. :)

Just once I'd like to see one of these with parade of accountants, engineers, programers, biologists, and lawyers. Those who get degrees, work to support their families, teach their children their language, take care of their elders, and keep our ways going into the future are working for their people too.
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Speaking as an a) Dine cousin; b) Haida and Tutchone lawyer; c) a member of the Military I too would like to see the warrior motif from the new agers given a night off.

Now, since I am by definition an actual warrior...I can tell you, I don't dress in anyway what so ever as these tubes depict. I wear NCDs, a Mustang floater jacket, sea boots and when we are on a boarding party, where we kick in hatches and climb up from a RHib, we wear a classic black cargo pants with kevlar body armour and I carry a glock or maybe a C9 or C7. Not an arrow, feather or turquoise bead in sight.

Now to me, these are the real warriors up here...Bold Eagle - Aboriginal Youth Development Program

Royal Canadian Navy: MARPAC - Maritime Forces Pacific - About - RAVEN Aboriginal Youth Initiative

I've taught many of these kids and they are truly warriors.

And these kids? They are the Cree People's future... 1600km walk to show what a Cree kid can do.

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The first video was okay. The second I couldn't stomach it at all. I watched maybe 15 seconds of it and stopped it.
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Couldn't watch the second video without laughing. Here we go with more romanticism of native "history" and culture.

The creator of the second video states that her "short film is an interpretation of the strong links between the Native, the buffalo, and the Great Spirit, and a young warrior's yearning for the return of times past" and naturally, this is how a lot (if not most) outsiders see us. These days, it just makes me chuckle. Don't think I know a single native, warrior or otherwise, who looks like this.


If I had any camera presence whatsoever, I'd make a video called the "Life and Times of an Ndn Economist", just to balance out all the mystic clutter that seems to spew from people's orifices the second the hear the term 'native american'. Mind you, that video would probably involve 5 hours of footage of me staring at spreadsheets, cursing and showing coworkers pictures of my cats.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:35 PM   #8
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Couldn't watch the second video without laughing. Here we go with more romanticism of native "history" and culture.

The creator of the second video states that her "short film is an interpretation of the strong links between the Native, the buffalo, and the Great Spirit, and a young warrior's yearning for the return of times past" and naturally, this is how a lot (if not most) outsiders see us. These days, it just makes me chuckle. Don't think I know a single native, warrior or otherwise, who looks like this.


If I had any camera presence whatsoever, I'd make a video called the "Life and Times of an Ndn Economist", just to balance out all the mystic clutter that seems to spew from people's orifices the second the hear the term 'native american'. Mind you, that video would probably involve 5 hours of footage of me staring at spreadsheets, cursing and showing coworkers pictures of my cats.

I'll watch it only if you promise to include a power point on the demand, supply and elasticity. ;)
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I've always found the warrior ethos odd.

I've done corrections/law enforcement, carried a gun, advanced training, kicked in doors and etc.

I don't think ANY of that makes someone "tough" or a "warrior."

Go to a job you hate, every day, to feed your kids? THAT GUY is a warrior.

Any fool can carry a gun...
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I'll watch it only if you promise to include a power point on the demand, supply and elasticity. ;)
Deal. I'll even include subliminal messages for frybread in the background of the video! That'll make it even more native, right? Gotta braid up my hair and play some flute music too while talking so they know I'm ndn
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Deal. I'll even include subliminal messages for frybread in the background of the video! That'll make it even more native, right? Gotta braid up my hair and play some flute music too while talking so they know I'm ndn
Don't forget to point with your lips... ;)
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I've always found the warrior ethos odd.

I've done corrections/law enforcement, carried a gun, advanced training, kicked in doors and etc.

I don't think ANY of that makes someone "tough" or a "warrior."

Go to a job you hate, every day, to feed your kids? THAT GUY is a warrior.

Any fool can carry a gun...
Any fool in the US you mean... we have gun controls up here..lol

I supposed you have not heard of the term, financial conscript?
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Why am I now imagining a video about a really long, really ugly fry bread line when the flour runs out. Supply, demand, elasticity -- at least in the gluten molecules -- and a touch of violence.
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i get lots of arguments and getting blocked from these twinkie vids.....everyone saying how much they love the "chants" and so on..............what is it in the white peoples brain crazy enough to say "i appreciate the indian so much im gonna go make a stupid video and real shytty music in thier honor!"
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