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Old 02-13-2004, 11:39 AM   #61
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OK first off I would never refer to Dr. King as the late great, and yes I would have to say that they were cocnerned with black issues not what was happening to natives. I'm not saying anything bad about King just that his concern was equal rights for blacks. I'm tired of seeing some people on here say it was alright what outkast did because at least they're a minority too. What they did was every bit as insulting as a white person doing the same thing.
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OK first off I would never refer to Dr. King as the late great, and yes I would have to say that they were cocnerned with black issues not what was happening to natives. I'm not saying anything bad about King just that his concern was equal rights for blacks. I'm tired of seeing some people on here say it was alright what outkast did because at least they're a minority too. What they did was every bit as insulting as a white person doing the same thing.
Actually MLK's vision was to achieve equality for all races. But you are right it doesn't matter what colour the people were who did it it is still wrong. I would imagine that some NAs would have been upset even if it had been another NA that put on that show because it would have meant that they obviously had no respect for their people or understand the spiritual natue of their culture.
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Old 02-13-2004, 12:47 PM   #63
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I didn't see the actual performance but just heard about it....Hmmmm I knew it was a navajo song they sang... but i didn't know it was the actual Beauty Way song.. yes that song is a traditional song only used in our traditional ceremonies. I come from a traditional family and have taken part in the ceremonies where the Beauty Way songs were sung.... Yes i understand its traditional..but I guess as a Navajo I also believe its stupid for the entire Navajo Nation to be "disgusted" with it because for one reason..there are "Navajo artists/singers" out there that use these traditional songs to make personal records/albums/cassettes/cd's and its sold to the general public..as well as the ceremonies are being depicted in paintings, drawings, and in other art and those are being sold to the general public. And this is not wrong?? LOL HA...only because Navajo's are doing the singing and the painting etc and showing OTHER cultures part of our traditional ceremonies and the navajo see it as okay, but as a navajo I would think that they should realize that making these traditional songs into "albums" would fall into the wrong hands...like right now ;)

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Old 02-13-2004, 02:22 PM   #64
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Why is it we as Indian people are not treated as Human and our culture is forever being mocked . . . in the name of "honoring us."

What kind of message does this send to our young Indian children?

It feels even more stinging when it comes from another minority who's culture also was done many injustices by the dominant culture.

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WRONG is WRONG!!!!!!

We are forever being mocked because mainstream America believes we do not exist except as Casino-owning-bellyfat rich scapegoats.

Last weekend me and the boys (my adopted Kiowa nephews) did a performance for the city of Santa Ana. It was a multicultural parade and faire in honor of Black History Month. Just before we go on stage a little Black girl lulus us. I didn't say anything because she actually did it correctly although I'm sure she wasn't aware that it is still considered mocking when done by non Natives. What was sad was that she did it while holding her mother's hand. Mom said nothing. Mom wasn't even paying attention. We went on and the audience was very respectful. They wanted to take pictures, they thanked us. Old grandmas nodded, nonverbally acknowledging our cultural mixtures. But then, as we left for our car, I felt we were being followed. Two little boys were right up on my fancy dancer nephew. They were trying to "slap" his bustles as they bounced while he walked. I turned around and lightly scolded them.
I said, "don't do that! You are being very disrespectful! You know to keep your hands to yourself, so why don't you. His regalia is made of precious eagle feathers and was made by hand."

The boy was shocked at first, then ashamed. He apologized and walked off. The point of my story is that so many non indians are not held accountable for their disrespect of us. This comes from not only ignorance, because ignorance means you ignore what you know. It also comes from never knowing, and sadly often, never caring.
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I was shocked when i saw their preformance but there is good news. I was on-line today at the msn home page and i went to see what was said about it under entertainment and music I was glad to see that CBS had written an article appologizing for this disrespectful preformance. So at least they have made some form of public appology.
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can you post a link to the apolgy
Is this the apology that you are talking about "We are very sorry if anyone was offended" Some apology do u think that they mean it? Look how much apologizing went on post boobgate. Don't you think that you atleast deserve nore then hey I am sorry.

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What is Lulus? Homalusa
You know, a lululu, what we women do to honor someone.
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Lulus is the same thing as lil-lees.
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