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Old 03-09-2005, 05:50 PM   #1
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Gourd

What makes a great gourd or a good one at least? I've all sorts of "things" made into gourds. From slat shakers to little round bell things that sound like "bells" when shook. When I was small I decided to make my own when my dad didn't have time to make me one. I made it out of tomatoe paste can. Later on I got my own, after I had put many miles on my tomatoe paste can gourd. I had a great staff though, I beaded it later on after I learned how to bead pretty good. But unfortunately I lost that gourd along with my bolero when I went into hoop dancing and later on into grass and into fancy. I wonder where they went hmmmm...
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:13 PM   #2
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I was initiated a year or two after my brother. He was initiated by Paul Abeyta and I forgot who I was initiated by. I tried asking my dad but he doesn't recall who the person was I think he was commanche or kiowa. I am not sure. But anyways I started out in powwow with gourd dancing. I like it today as I am trying to get back into gourd dancing. My dad would say to me, "it (gourd dancing) didn't leave you, you left it."
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I was initiated a year or two after my brother. He was initiated by Paul Abeyta and I forgot who I was initiated by. I tried asking my dad but he doesn't recall who the person was I think he was commanche or kiowa. I am not sure. But anyways I started out in powwow with gourd dancing. I like it today as I am trying to get back into gourd dancing. My dad would say to me, "it (gourd dancing) didn't leave you, you left it."
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"Initiations" as they relate to gourd dancing will make a good subject.


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"Initiations" as they relate to gourd dancing will make a good subject.


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What's the deal with "initiations" in your neck of the woods? I just saw another post where someone was going to get "initiated" into the jingle dress.

Please enlighten!
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Is this the same thing as "being brought out into Circle" as a Gourd Dancer?

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LSS,

When speaking of "initiation," I think they have something else in mind than simply being brought "into the circle."

In my mind, the latter means dancing and dressing out for the first time, complete with giveaway, etc. as a way to introduce you to everyone else and vice versa.

An initiation means being brought in as a member to a formal society or established group, like Kiowa Gourd Clan, Kiowa Tia-piah, or Comanche Little Ponies.

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Ahhhh I see....thanks for the clarification Park! One comes much later, most often I'm assuming.
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