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Old 10-13-2004, 08:13 PM   #1
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Talking Gourd Dancing after Dark

I heard this guy say that you can't sing or Gourd dance after dark.... I thought this guy is crazy..... He is suppost to be kiowa(young guy). I guess he's never been to carniegie....Have any of ya'll ever heard of this or crazy things like this??? I wonder about ppl sometimes...?
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"The Red Wolf sang all night and the warrior watched and listenend to him until dawn....."

Quick....someone e-mail the Red Wolf that he did it wrong!!
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I heard this guy say that you can't sing or Gourd dance after dark.... I thought this guy is crazy..... He is suppost to be kiowa(young guy). I guess he's never been to carniegie....Have any of ya'll ever heard of this or crazy things like this??? I wonder about ppl sometimes...?
Maybe all his blanket adornments are set to his blanket to where they'd be upside-down if he switched to night, so he can't switch for when the sun goes down. :D

So, if he can get everyone to stop dancing when the sun goes down, he won't have to feel awkward at not switching his blanket?

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Are ya sure he ndn

I guess he's never been to gracemont or darko either
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Well . . . .

Actually, I've spoken with a number of Kiowa elders (in Oklahoma, not California or Massachusetts or wherever) who told me that gourd dancing should be wrapped up before dark.

Now, these conversations were at dances where we kept dancing (and singing) until around 10 p.m. or so, but that's what they told me.

I suspect that it relates to traditions that go wayyyyy back that obviously aren't followed anymore (if you get my drift).

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I wouldn't have danced after dark either before electicity and lights came about. But yeah, thats what I've always understood. But then again alot of things are different. The Brush Dance was done early in the morning back then too. But I don't know if you'll be able to round up any singers that early after the "9" these days.
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Gourd dancing at nite

Aw-Kah, who is this young person asking about night gourd dancing? Zame-Thay, we Kiowas dance anytime, anywhere, even at da "9". Who's he been listening to? Or, even better, yet. Who did he hear it from? Naw, I'm just teasin. We dance because of boiled meat, fried potatoes and biscuits, too. Oh, I forgot, bote, and saycoin, too. Hawwwwwwwwww
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Its True~~Kiowa Gourd Dancing Ended at Dark!

Its True Yes, I have heard of this and even witnessed it at Carnegie Park back in the day. This gourd dancing was supposed to end before it got dark and it did. But now with so much time spent having more and more and longer and longer give-aways the gourd dancing today doesnt end until 10 or 11 pm.

One other main point I forgot to mention was that the Kiowa Gourd Clan dance was performed a week or few days prior to the Kiowa Sundance. The Kiowa Gourd Clan was a warrior society that helped with the sundance preparations and help police the camp.

So...it would make sense that the Kiowa Gourd Clan Society would not be doing any dancing once the sun went down because of its affiliation with the Kiowa Sundance.

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